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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 12:28:38
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I remember when I first went to vote, I even brought my SS card with me. I was surprised when they didn't check IDs. I thought, how legit can this be?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2015-03-17 12:28:58
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
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How is making someone show their ID to vote wrong again?

Because the underlying motive has nothing to do with ID. And voter fraud is damn near unheard of. You can't even get people to show up for local races if you begged them!

What's the underlying motive? A fair and level voting system?

Hold on lemme get my popcorn....
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:30:21
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fonewear said: »
What world do you live in where getting a photo ID any form of photo ID is tough ?

It isn't for me.

For some people, however, it is.

Also, let's forget for a moment that facile argument.

Christie’s gross confession: “Moderate” admits GOP’s voter suppression agenda

Republicans Admit Voter-ID Laws Are Aimed at Democratic Voters

GOP Official Resigns After Saying Purpose Of Voter ID Is To Suppress Votes Of Democrats, ‘Lazy Blacks’

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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:31:15
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I was never asked for any form of ID when I voted also...makes you wonder...

I went to get my ID out and they were like we don't need it...
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:32:42
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Come on if you can't get a photo ID son I'm afraid you need to get your ***together !
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:32:49
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fonewear said: »
I was never asked for any form of ID when I voted also...makes you wonder...

I have been the past few times I've voted. It's "optional", but I don't really mind.

Like I said, I'm all about ID'ing voters.

Just make sure you're giving them the government-issued ID they need without ridiculous charges involved (not just for the ID, but for trying to get copies of birth records if they don't have them, etc.)
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:33:27
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fonewear said: »
Come on if you can't get a photo ID son I'm afraid you need to get your ***together !

Seriously, I get what you're saying and why you're saying it, it's just a very, very limited mindset thinking it's as easy for everyone as it is for you.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 12:34:01
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Lol, I clicked on thinkprogress link and sure enough, a thing came up showing me my 2 hardcore liberal friends also like that site.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:34:27
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I get it I'm not a complete fascist...yet I'm not about suppressing anyone's ability to vote.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-03-17 12:34:58
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
According to the article, fraud is so easy that's it's essentially "undetectable", as in someone pointing out that it isn't ever cited is meaningless as it goes on undetected all the time.

If we have a nationally popular vote, all the perpetrators of voter fraud need to do, is to set up shop in a very small handful of large cities and just pump out the fraud. Instead of today where contested states are the "battleground" and there is at least some degree of awareness.
So you're essentially creating a problem based on a lack of evidence. Is there an incessant, primal need for you to be scared of something that you feel the need to do this?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-17 12:35:00
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
I remember when I first went to vote, I even brought my SS card with me. I was surprised when they didn't check IDs. I thought, how legit can this be?

Now prove fraud is happening. Or how having ID will squash this fraud.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:35:15
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Lol, I clicked on thinkprogress link and sure enough, a thing came up showing me my 2 hardcore liberal friends also like that site.

It's not like they fabricated the story though.

Those are literally just the four most readily-available links I found on a quick google search.

For instance, I hate Glen Beck, but everyone once in a blue moon, the little *** reports some actual facts.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:39:01
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I hate Rachel Maddow but she does wear nice glasses there I said it !



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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-17 12:39:38
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"Pump out the fraud"

I'll have to remember at my next communist meeting to tell all my comrades that our plan next election is to bus in hundreds of immigrants to poison the election. Then we'll open up gay ice cream shoppes in small American towns specializing in converting children to gayism. All while a chorus of black guys steal all the jobs.

Juanita Gutierez reporting for duty, comrade!
"Together Juanita, we shall bring America to her knees."
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:41:00
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
How is making someone show their ID to vote wrong again?

Because the underlying motive has nothing to do with ID. And voter fraud is damn near unheard of. You can't even get people to show up for local races if you begged them!

What's the underlying motive? A fair and level voting system?

Hold on lemme get my popcorn....

One of these days I'm going to figure out if you actually understand all the nuances and you're a terrible person, or if you just actually believe what your conservative masters tell you and you're just an ignorant person.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2015-03-17 12:41:24
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Hatred is such a terrible thing Fone. Be more like Jesus.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:41:42
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
All while a chorus of black guys steal all the jobs.

Don't forget sleeping with and inseminating all the white women.
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:41:56
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See I hate the right things though ! That makes it okay.

If we agree upon what to hate it is no longer a bad thing.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:42:18
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Verda said: »
McCarthyism ended in the 50s and was shitty even then.

Political witch hunts never end. See: "The War on Drugs," "The War on Terrorism."
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 12:42:56
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So it's my understanding that the voter ID laws in Brazil, Canada, Netherlands, and Switzerland are not racist then?
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:43:05
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Hatred is such a terrible thing Fone. Be more like Jesus.

Yeah. Get nailed to a tree already, would you?
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:44:06
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
So it's my understanding that the voter ID laws in Brazil, Canada, Netherlands, and Switzerland are not racist then?

I don't know about Brazil, as a non-extradition country can't really be trusted imo, but as for the other three, I'm willing to bet it's really easy and free to get said ID. ^^
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:44:06
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No I like to hate it makes me feel inside !
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By fonewear 2015-03-17 12:45:16
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What about war on women ? Get out of my vagina you filthy Republican !
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-03-17 12:45:27
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Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
a non-extradition country can't really be trusted imo
At least you admit you're bias in that.
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By Seraph.Ramyrez 2015-03-17 12:45:40
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Verda said: »
Seraph.Ramyrez said: »
Verda said: »
McCarthyism ended in the 50s and was shitty even then.

Political witch hunts never end. See: "The War on Drugs," "The War on Terrorism."

Oh I know. But to still be on the same one that is over 60 years old when you weren't even alive when that was going on...

I dunno. I really like Led Zeppelin, and they disbanded before I was born.

Maybe he just feels like he missed out?
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