Random Politics & Religion #00

I was going to be a teacher went to college for it. Changed my mind (to business)cause why be in that much debt to make 25,000 a year.

Or even worse not even get a job in teaching but be a sub teacher. And still in debt.

Hell I could make about the same money and probably enjoy being a bartender. With no debt.

I would be a bartender if I didn't live in a place lacking good bars...

Because in HS no one talks about money to students. It's a running trend in America, a land where money is God, that we don't talk about money whenever we probably should be talking about money.

Medical costs? No one talks about em.
University costs? Nope.

Everything is 'financed' which is codespeak for massive debt inbound.

See, people tend to blame the victim cause it's easy and convenient but really, the trend in college has been to go first, ask questions later and who are you at 16-17 to buck what the adults have told you?

(Enter a generation of students with thousands in debt with shitty work prospects.)

Now that the tides turned began to turn away from blindly going to overpriced private colleges guess where's getting swamped? State colleges which have seen funding cuts over the years. When I was in college we had streams of private school students who dropped out to join us less well-off folk in state schools.

(Enter overcrowded classrooms and teachers paid so low you'd think we're in a MAD TV sketch.)

You've now got a scenario (in my state at least) where immigrant kids and competing for slots with middle class folk at state colleges because they're alot cheaper. For most immigrant/poor/minority students college is a major path of breaking the poverty trap. They can't exactly afford to abandon that prospect given the conditions of their social safety nets.

As for the skilled trades route? You'd best be committing to that because everything else wants -some- college. Put down you have no college and you might as well be shredding your own resumes.

We're talking about different things, bud. Campaign tactics like over-exposure and paying armies of PR people to twist anything around is what taints the landscape. Politician shouldn't be a career, but the private funding system rewards the ones that are good at getting rich people to give them funds to run those kinds of campaigns, not the ones who have a goal and a PLAN.


I can't figure out where you're getting this idea. Agencies can request all they want, they are given a budget by Congress and it's spend it or lose it. When the budget isn't sufficient, they can ask for additional money, but it's Congress who either appropriates more or allows them to borrow from the next year's budget. When a kid spends all his lunch money on candy, do you blame the kid or the parent when they ask for more and get it?


Assuming there's a viable 3rd party candidate, you're talking about 3 PSA's per major network in any given time period, that's not any more than they already are required to air. And candidates would obviously be allowed to purchase as much primetime space as the fixed budget allowed. They could do as many interviews and they liked, etc. There's nothing stopping them from spending that budget on whatever they please, they just wouldn't be allowed to spend more or forced to spend it. Having spent less would be a true indicator of a fiscal conservative.


You're purposefully missing the point for whatever reason.

I never said the public would determine anything other than who has earned their vote by demonstrating their ability on a level playing field.

Presidential campaign spending has become absurd. A combined 2 billion dollars in 2012, ~1.4 billion in 2008, ~880 million in 2004, ~530 in 2000. Do you see a trend? It's nearly doubled every cycle since 1980. And, more and more of it is coming from private donors. Almost half of GHWB's campaign receipts were out of public money, neither Obama or Romney took any of the nearly 100M they were each entitled to under current public funding. As it sits, in the last 2 presidential races, over 3.5 billion dollars of private campaign funding was spent on every manner of advertising and administrative luncheon and banquet and we have seen less and less actual vetting of candidates on their skills and experience. Our system is broken, and the public funding system we're supposed to have wasn't.

Uh... an accountant who doesn't understand what "average" means...

What exactly is a "B" average considered numerically? 75% or higher?

Last I checked it was 100 A 90 B 80 C 70 D etc. (close to those numbers) When I went to school.

B average is essentially you're not a total *** up.

If you can't maintain a B average at a community college you just don't give a ***.

75% would be a D or a very low C at any school I went to.

I know you love me and all, but seriously.

You know exactly what I mean, but you are trying to pick a fight when one isn't due. But thanks for admitting that I'm right about Obama's plan.

Citation please.

I'm on the ground floor of the job market, as are a lot of my friends, and these jobs don't exist. We have a minor construction boom going on in this city, no less, and the best I can hope for is a brief contract for a couple weeks before the crew (which is always from out-of-state) finishes up and leaves.

I work with the homeless and otherwise disadvantaged, too. They wouldn't bat an eye at cleaning toilets or doing most of the dirty jobs that middle class white America doesn't want, but the jobs aren't available. They're filled by the over-qualified or by people who've had to come out of retirement.

So where are these jobs that pay more than ***wages, offer a 40-hour week, and don't require a degree or trade school training?

We had academic probation in college think it was if you were borderline D student. You had to attend some *** seminar about how to do better blah blah blah. I know cause my first semester of college I didn't do anything.

2.5 GPA. .0 to .33 is -, .33 to .67 is letter grade, .67 to .99 is +

Only exception to the above rule is 4.0, which is the same as A+.

Porn star. That or make meth.

I already listed them in that same post you quoted from....

The people in the oil and gas field get paid well and doesn't cost nearly what it would to earn a 4 year degree.

It's called hyperbole when you exaggerate for effect. A "B" average means an average grade of "B". If you have one "A" and one "C", you have a "B" average. Your statement was dishonest at best and idiotic at worst.

I don't have an opinion on his plan, I haven't even seen it, I have an opinion on hyperbole.

Not even joking if I was a woman I'd be a stripper they make well over min. wage and get to work at night.

Just have to not be coked up all the time and actually save your money !

All the jobs you noted require, at bare minimum, trade school. How the *** is someone paying for trade school when they can't keep the heat on?

I quoted the relevant paragraph for a reason. You claim there are jobs better than Wal-Mart and McDonald's that don't even require a high school diploma. I want you to prove that. I have a friend who injured her shoulder and can no longer do the work she's trained to do (pastry chef), so she's trying to find some kind of office-type work but literally no one will let her answer a telephone because she doesn't have a university degree.

But, hey, if you think we need more skilled tradesmen, I won't disagree. Just tell me who is going to pay them while they learn. I know trade unions offer a wage to apprentices, but there's no one giving me money to get a CDL. If there is, do tell me, I know a bunch of people who'd love to do just that.

Tell her strip clubs are always hiring and if she is half decent looking she could make way more than being an office worker.

You don't need a degree to work in an office. I see ads for administrative assistants /secretary all the time you just need experience. And knowledge of Office programs.

She's got a huge rack but she would not be an effective stripper. Nor should that be the sole option available.

And in this city, which is allegedly a tech capital and lots of other blah-blah-blah, no degree and limited experience means you'll join several dozen other resumes in the circular file. What the ad says and what the employer wants aren't the same, you should know that.

Well hate to tell her transition from pastry chef to office worker is an odd choice.

I'd say she look to get on disability until she can find work if her shoulder is that messed up.

Then there's dealing with the ***/dipshit interviewer who has no idea on how to conduct themselves or represent their employer effectively.

Seriously, saw a lot of that in the past 4 years.

I don't recommend anyone work in a office. I thought about it but *** that. Just watch Office Space.

I don't want to spend the rest of my life in a cubicle.

I hate this so much.
No one hires you unless you have experience. But you can't make any if no one lets you.
So, wat?

I know what you mean but that is the way the work world is !

Best you can do is unpaid internships at some of these places.

It's like duty finder in FFXIV. Experienced only, but no one lets you make said experience.

There are a lot of entry level positions here in Calgary that require:

University/College degrees,
2 years minimum experience in said position
Reliable transportation, despite absolutely Zero duties requiring transportation beyond travelling to and/or from work,
Among other stupid ***where they pay minimum wage for you to train a fresh off his *** moron who couldn't tell the difference between a spoon, a fork, and a hole in his *** that inevitably gets paid more than you do to train him.

And it's usually the dumbass inexperienced derps that state "Learning party - experienced onry"

When I was job searching some time ago, 75% of ads wanted women only, with picture instead of curriculum and "availability". One guy right out told me I had to have sex with him to get the job(and then keep it). Wasn't even a good job.