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By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-30 11:36:04
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that'd be funny if it wasn't the truth...
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By Ramyrez 2015-01-30 11:41:46
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Siren.Mosin said: »
that'd be funny if it wasn't the truth...

Yeah...

*grimmace*
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-30 13:04:27
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well idk, I'm not the paragon of the male form, but I've managed to not be accused of domestic violence for 32 years fairly easily.
I'm shocked! I figured with your relaxed attitude and overall demeanor that you would have been on the FBI Most Wanted list of people not giving a *** domestic violence cases.
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-30 13:14:30
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Siren.Mosin said: »
well idk, I'm not the paragon of the male form, but I've managed to not be accused of domestic violence for 32 years fairly easily.

You haven't tapped into your severe insecurity issues then.

WHY WONT YOU LOVE ME?! IS IT BECAUSE IM NOT MAN ENOUGH?! *insert gun here* NOW WHO'S NOT MAN ENOUGH?! **** gun* CMON TELL ME YOU LOVE ME *muffled screams* YEAH I THOUGHT SO. *insert domestic violence*

*Scene closes on the words "Neighborhood Watch"*
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2015-01-30 13:18:23
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
What's that, people go to a particular place to read stuff like this?
It must be...
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-01-30 14:06:02
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Can someone PM me when it's safe to peruse this thread again? thx
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By Siren.Mosin 2015-01-30 14:11:47
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Can someone PM me when it's safe to peruse this thread again? thx

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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-01-30 14:23:24
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Syriza's result will send shockwaves through Europe, the BBC's Gavin Hewitt in Athens reports.

Meanwhile, the euro fell to $1.1098 against the dollar - the lowest level in more than 11 years.
That reporter was a bit too quick. At the end of the day we now can say there hasn't been a shock so far. The Euro closed higher than it opened. It being near a long time low level has more to do with the general situation within the euro-zone and Draghi's 1,1 billion (trillion for Americans) announcement last week. Has that been discussed here yet? Didn't have the time to read the forum last week.
People don't have the time to realize the Euro has been declining for awhile. Easier to blame Russia Greece.

Speaking of which, I always jump on the opportunity to quote an xNBC article. Luckily this was the first search result.

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Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov told CNBC that Russia would consider giving financial help to debt-ridden Greece—just days after the new Greek government questioned further European Union sanctions against Russia.

Siluanov said Greece had not yet requested Russia for assistance, but he did not rule out an agreement between the two countries if Greece came asking.

"Well, we can imagine any situation, so if such [a] petition is submitted to the Russian government, we will definitely consider it, but will take into account all the factors of our bilateral relationships between Russia and Greece, so that is all I can say. If it is submitted we will consider it," Siluanov told CNBC in an exclusive interview in Moscow on Thursday.

Siluanov's comments come two days after Greece's new left-wing-led government distanced itself from calls to increase sanctions against Russia—indicating that Greece could be looking east to Russia for support.

On Tuesday, EU leaders issued a statement calling for "further restrictive measures" to be considered against Russia with regard to its involvement in the ongoing conflict in eastern Ukraine.

After the statement, a representative for Greece's newly elected Syriza party reported that the EU's statement was made "without our country's consent" and expressed "dissatisfaction with the handling of this."

On Thursday, Siluanov said that while Western-imposed sanctions against Russia thus far had been harmful, the country has managed to adapt.

"The sanctions that have already been imposed against Russia did have (a) negative effect on us. However, Russia companies have adjusted and the Russian balance of payments has adjusted. (The) ruble weakened and as you might see, life still goes on here and we just keep on living," he said.
Russia extends olive branch to Greeks

As for the EU QE, lol. Just makes my living here cheaper. As a side note, during Serbian New Years I lowered everyone's rent by 10 Euros citing 'weak EU growth.' lol
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-30 16:25:41
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but the dead kid was the "thug"
He was, doesn't mean GZ isn't as well though.
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By Jetackuu 2015-01-30 16:30:06
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It is also very possible that the ex-girlfriend was trying to get back at him in spite of a bad breakup. That's what I think happened in this case.

Well, like I said. He could simply be that maligned, which would cover what you're saying. But isn't this the third or fourth time AFTER the Martin case was over that he's been involved with the police, though?

A false allegation or two in light of his "infamy", we'll call it, is almost expected.

But he just. keeps. making. headlines.
The media thinks it will sell, so they keep posting it. Remember, they're the ones who kept telling the lie of the case revolving around the "stand your ground" laws of Florida, when it didn't, yet people still think it did (just read an article the other day where the author stated as such, but then again it was on Yahoo, so ha).

I think the guy just needs to be a loner at this point, his luck with women is shot, and they're going to push his buttons and make up ***just to *** with him when they don't get their way, since he obviously likes crazy ***.

Or move to where hookers are legal, where you don't pay for the sex, you pay for them to leave after.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-01-30 19:21:09
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Can someone PM me when it's safe to peruse this thread again? thx
Here, I found this just for you:

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“The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot,” according to a Commerce Department report published by the Washington Post.

Writes the Post: “Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers. . . all point to a radical change in climate conditions and . . . unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone . . . Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones . . . while at many points well-known glaciers have entirely disappeared.”

More evidence of human-caused global warming? Hardly.

The above report of runaway Arctic warming is from a Washington Post story published Nov. 2, 1922 and bears an uncanny resemblance to the tales of global warming splattered across the front pages of today's newspapers. It is one of many historical accounts published during the past 140 years describing climate changes and often predicting catastrophic cooling or warming.

Here are excerpts from a few of those accounts, appearing as early as 1870:

"The climate of New-York and the contiguous Atlantic seaboard has long been a study of great interest. We have just experienced a remarkable instance of its peculiarity. The Hudson River, by a singular freak of temperature, has thrown off its icy mantle and opened its waters to navigation.” – New York Times, Jan. 2, 1870

“Is our climate changing? The succession of temperate summers and open winters through several years, culminating last winter in the almost total failure of the ice crop throughout the valley of the Hudson, makes the question pertinent. The older inhabitants tell us that the winters are not as cold now as when they were young, and we have all observed a marked diminution of the average cold even in this last decade.” – New York Times, June 23, 1890

“The question is again being discussed whether recent and long-continued observations do not point to the advent of a second glacial period, when the countries now basking in the fostering warmth of a tropical sun will ultimately give way to the perennial frost and snow of the polar regions.” – New York Times, Feb. 24, 1895

Professor Gregory of Yale University stated that “another world ice-epoch is due.” He was the American representative to the Pan-Pacific Science Congress and warned that North America would disappear as far south as the Great Lakes, and huge parts of Asia and Europe would be “wiped out.” – Chicago Tribune, Aug. 9, 1923

“The discoveries of changes in the sun's heat and southward advance of glaciers in recent years have given rise to the conjectures of the possible advent of a new ice age – Time Magazine, Sept. 10, 1923

Headline: “America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a 25-year Rise” – New York Times, March 27, 1933

“America is believed by Weather Bureau scientists to be on the verge of a change of climate, with a return to increasing rains and deeper snows and the colder winters of grandfather's day.” – Associated Press, Dec. 15, 1934

Warming Arctic Climate Melting Glaciers Faster, Raising Ocean Level, Scientist Says – “A mysterious warming of the climate is slowly manifesting itself in the Arctic, engendering a "serious international problem," Dr. Hans Ahlmann, noted Swedish geophysicist, said today. – New York Times, May 30, 1937

“Greenland's polar climate has moderated so consistently that communities of hunters have evolved into fishing villages. Sea mammals, vanishing from the west coast, have been replaced by codfish and other fish species in the area's southern waters.” – New York Times, Aug. 29, 1954

“An analysis of weather records from Little America shows a steady warming of climate over the last half century. The rise in average temperature at the Antarctic outpost has been about five degrees Fahrenheit.” – New York Times, May 31, 1958

“Several thousand scientists of many nations have recently been climbing mountains, digging tunnels in glaciers, journeying to the Antarctic, camping on floating Arctic ice. Their object has been to solve a fascinating riddle: what is happening to the world's ice? – New York Times, Dec. 7, 1958

“After a week of discussions on the causes of climate change, an assembly of specialists from several continents seems to have reached unanimous agreement on only one point: it is getting colder.” – New York Times, Jan. 30, 1961

“Like an outrigger canoe riding before a huge comber, the earth with its inhabitants is caught on the downslope of an immense climatic wave that is plunging us toward another Ice Age.” – Los Angeles Times, Dec. 23, 1962

“Col. Bernt Balchen, polar explorer and flier, is circulating a paper among polar specialists proposing that the Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two." – New York Times, Feb. 20, 1969

“By 1985, air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half . . . ." – Life magazine, January 1970

“In ten years all important animal life in the sea will be extinct. Large areas of coastline will have to be evacuated because of the stench of dead fish.” – Paul Ehrlich, Earth Day, 1970

"Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind. We are in an environmental crisis which threatens the survival of this nation, and of the world as a suitable place of human habitation." – Barry Commoner (Washington University), Earth Day, 1970

Because of increased dust, cloud cover and water vapor, "the planet will cool, the water vapor will fall and freeze, and a new Ice Age will be born.” – Newsweek magazine, Jan. 26, 1970

“The United States and the Soviet Union are mounting large-scale investigations to determine why the Arctic climate is becoming more frigid, why parts of the Arctic sea ice have recently become ominously thicker and whether the extent of that ice cover contributes to the onset of ice ages.” – New York Times, July 18, 1970

“In the next 50 years, fine dust that humans discharge into the atmosphere by burning fossil fuel will screen out so much of the sun's rays that the Earth's average temperature could fall by six degrees. Sustained emissions over five to 10 years, could be sufficient to trigger an ice age." – Washington Post, July 9, 1971

“It's already getting colder. Some midsummer day, perhaps not too far in the future, a hard, killing frost will sweep down on the wheat fields of Saskatchewan, the Dakotas and the Russian steppes. . . .” – Los Angles Times, Oct. 24, 1971

“An international team of specialists has concluded from eight indexes of climate that there is no end in sight to the cooling trend of the last 30 years, at least in the Northern Hemisphere.” – New York Times, Jan. 5, 1978

“A poll of climate specialists in seven countries has found a consensus that there will be no catastrophic changes in the climate by the end of the century. But the specialists were almost equally divided on whether there would be a warming, a cooling or no change at all.” – New York Times, Feb. 18, 1978

“A global warming trend could bring heat waves, dust-dry farmland and disease, the experts said... Under this scenario, the resort town of Ocean City, Md., will lose 39 feet of shoreline by 2000 and a total of 85 feet within the next 25 years.” – San Jose Mercury News, June 11, 1986

“Global warming could force Americans to build 86 more power plants -- at a cost of $110 billion -- to keep all their air conditioners running 20 years from now, a new study says...Using computer models, researchers concluded that global warming would raise average annual temperatures nationwide two degrees by 2010, and the drain on power would require the building of 86 new midsize power plants – Associated Press, May 15, 1989

“New York will probably be like Florida 15 years from now.” -- St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Sept. 17, 1989

"[By] 1995, the greenhouse effect would be desolating the heartlands of North America and Eurasia with horrific drought, causing crop failures and food riots . . . [By 1996] The Platte River of Nebraska would be dry, while a continent-wide black blizzard of prairie topsoil will stop traffic on interstates, strip paint from houses and shut down computers . . . The Mexican police will round up illegal American migrants surging into Mexico seeking work as field hands.” – "Dead Heat: The Race Against the Greenhouse Effect," Michael Oppenheimer and Robert H. Boyle, 1990.

"It appears that we have a very good case for suggesting that the El Ninos are going to become more frequent, and they're going to become more intense and in a few years, or a decade or so, we'll go into a permanent El Nino. So instead of having cool water periods for a year or two, we'll have El Nino upon El Nino, and that will become the norm. And you'll have an El Nino, that instead of lasting 18 months, lasts 18 years,” according to Dr. Russ Schnell, a scientist doing atmospheric research at Mauna Loa Observatory. – BBC, Nov. 7, 1997

"Scientists are warning that some of the Himalayan glaciers could vanish within ten years because of global warming. A build-up of greenhouse gases is blamed for the meltdown, which could lead to drought and flooding in the region affecting millions of people." -- The Birmingham Post in England, July 26, 1999

“This year (2007) is likely to be the warmest year on record globally, beating the current record set in 1998.” – ScienceDaily, Jan. 5, 2007

Arctic warming has become so dramatic that the North Pole may melt this summer (2008), report scientists studying the effects of climate change in the field. "We're actually projecting this year that the North Pole may be free of ice for the first time [in history]," David Barber, of the University of Manitoba, told National Geographic News aboard the C.C.G.S. Amundsen, a Canadian research icebreaker. – National Geographic News, June 20, 2008

"So the climate will continue to change, even if we make maximum effort to slow the growth of carbon dioxide. Arctic sea ice will melt away in the summer season within the next few decades. Mountain glaciers, providing fresh water for rivers that supply hundreds of millions of people, will disappear - practically all of the glaciers could be gone within 50 years. . . Clearly, if we burn all fossil fuels, we will destroy the planet we know . . . We would set the planet on a course to the ice-free state, with sea level 75 metres higher. Climatic disasters would occur continually." Dr. James Hansen (NASA GISS), The Observer, Feb. 15, 2009.

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Climate change? Yes, there has been plenty of that during the past 140 years. Despite warnings by "experts of the day" of approaching climate disasters, mankind somehow managed to survive. A decade or so from now, after earth's climate changes once again, those who are old enough will recall with amusement the time, early in the 21st century, when the world went crazy over an imaginary threat called “global warming.”
Arctic Ocean warming, icebergs growing scarce, Washington Post reports
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2015-01-30 19:29:24
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Author posits experts as fickle; uses newspaper quotes as evidence. lol
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-01-30 19:39:37
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Funniest part is I read about the Washington Post article in some Yahoo comment about another story. Got so sidetracked looking it up, I forgot the original article I was reading.
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By Altimaomega 2015-01-31 03:54:37
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“New York will probably be like Florida 15 years from now.” -- St. Louis Post-Dispatch, Sept. 17, 1989

I bet NY wished this was true a few days ago.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2015-01-31 04:05:28
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My favorite ones:

“America is believed by Weather Bureau scientists to be on the verge of a change of climate, with a return to increasing rains and deeper snows and the colder winters of grandfather's day.” – Associated Press, Dec. 15, 1934

“A poll of climate specialists in seven countries has found a consensus that there will be no catastrophic changes in the climate by the end of the century. But the specialists were almost equally divided on whether there would be a warming, a cooling or no change at all.” – New York Times, Feb. 18, 1978
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By Altimaomega 2015-01-31 04:30:56
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Sounds oddly familiar.. Almost like a cycle... Hmmm..
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-01-31 06:06:21
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This was a video i was talking about America's elite purchasing parts of land in foreign countries thinking they will escape american justice because they know people are waking up. Once the people regain control of government I want the elite to realize we will cross the oceans and fill the sky's and separate mountains and it will be clear that no nation should harbor traitors of our great union which brought financial ruin upon us. Take time to watch please

Further proof about the law that never was the 16th amendment with testimony





rp&r page 213 Let Freedom Reign
rp&r page 216 The Law That Never Was the 16th amendment.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 09:00:17
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
America's elite purchasing parts of land in foreign countries thinking they will escape american justice because they know people are waking up.
Wait...WHAT?

So you think it is illegal or immoral to purchase land, especially foreign land?

Tell me again, why is that so bad? Use your own words, and not some opinionated YouTube video as "fact."

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Once the people regain control of government I want the elite to realize we will cross the oceans and fill the sky's and separate mountains and it will be clear that no nation should harbor traitors of our great union which brought financial ruin upon us.
Have the people lost control of the government in the first place? Who votes Congress and the President into office in your mind?

Also, tell us who, in your mind, are traitors. Name actual names, not accuse people globally, because you just might accuse me of being a traitor....

I guess the following list of questions is going to be added to the growing list of questions I asked you and you refuse to answer, such as (but not limited to):

1) What is an appropriations bill?
2) What does an appropriations bill do?
3) What is interest?
4) Why does interest exist?
5) How does interest come to being?
6) Who are the shareholders of the Federal Reserve?
7) What does the Federal Reserve do?

Remember, answering these questions with YouTube videos is not answering them. You have to answer them with your own words and (if possible) using sources other than YouTube videos to support your answers.

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rp&r page 213 Let Freedom Reign
rp&r page 216 The Law That Never Was the 16th amendment.
This website it not your blog. Please don't treat it as such.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-01-31 10:28:41
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I never said it was illegal or immoral. I was just stating that when those who are found to cause financial ruin upon our nation, who then flee our nation The United States Government reclaimed by the Citizens via peaceful measures by ballot box will do the following. 1.use our finest to cross the oceans and fill the sky's and separate mountains to find those indicted .2 And it will be clear that no nation should harbor traitors of our great union which brought financial ruin upon us. And 3. We will bring them to trial for capital crimes and treason for the mess they put us in. Never deny any source in a investigation Mr.Nobody. I never claimed this to be a blog either i'm just sharing random political and religous information. How did Justin Timberlake say it ? " Cry me a river".

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rp&r page 216 The Law That Never Was, the 16th amendment
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By Garuda.Chanti 2015-01-31 10:41:36
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King, it does you no good to argue with Loldgrim.

He doesn't listen, he won't listen, he is totally captured by wacko economic theories.

He just sticks his metaphorical theories in his ears instead of fingers and goes post, post, post.

Your arguing with him only helps to validate him to himself.
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By Siren.Lordgrim 2015-01-31 11:12:14
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
King, it does you no good to argue with Lordgrim.

He does listen, YOU won't listen, he is Honestly trying to inform his fellow citizens of Facts.

He just has a lot of courage ,and love ,and compassion to Restore the United States of Americas Integrity and Honor To explain in your EYES instead of ears( cause this is a website we use our eyes to read) and goes and post facts he finds to keep government Honest and in the peoples best interest. Now tell me that is not love for your country that you protest its flag? Here he told me to give this to you



Your arguing with him only helps to validate him to OTHERS.

I found out finally what ftfy was, i am catching up with times scarey i know,lol

fix that for you, Chanti thank you, i take back the "you give love a bad name" post, i love you as a human being now.

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rp&r page 216 The Law That Never Was, the 16th amendment
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2015-01-31 11:24:18
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Why was his thread closed again? He could just spam away and it could go completely unnoticed. Instead he is shitting up this thread.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 11:38:04
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The funny part is, that he cites the Federal Reserve Act as the 16th Amendment, when it isn't.

Additionally, the actual 16th Amendment, was ratified and put into action on December 23rd, 1913, after being proposed in March of 1909.

At that time, the 36 necessary state legislatures signed in agreement, while 6 others signed later on, bringing the total state legislature signature total to 42.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 11:52:50
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Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I never said it was illegal or immoral.
Then what do you mean by this statement?

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
America's elite purchasing parts of land in foreign countries thinking they will escape american justice because they know people are waking up.
American "justice" implies that they have done something illegal or immoral, and you attributed this "justice" to land purchase in foreign countries.

BTW, can you tell us who is purchasing property and where?

I doubt it.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
1.use our finest to cross the oceans and fill the sky's and separate mountains to find those indicted .
Indicted of what? What crimes were committed? What laws were broken?

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
.2 And it will be clear that no nation should harbor traitors of our great union which brought financial ruin upon us.
Do you have proof that anyone brought financial harm and/or ruin? What is the crime they are charged with to classify them as traitors? Can you name the law itself?

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
3. We will bring them to trial for capital crimes and treason for the mess they put us in.
NAME THE LAWS THAT WERE BROKEN. Seriously, if you are going to blanket accuse people (including me) for committing crimes against the nation, AT LEAST NAME THE LAWS YOU BELIEVE WE BROKE.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
Never deny any source in a investigation Mr.Nobody.
You obviously fail to understand that opinions are not facts. Every single YouTube video you posted had zero sources that was substantiated by anything more than, well, opinions.

I'm not denying YouTube itself, I'm denying your sources as anything more than bunk.

Siren.Lordgrim said: »
I never claimed this to be a blog either i'm just sharing random political and religous information.
You are treating this thread as a blog. Where's your website you promised you will make?

You noticed that you again failed to answer any of the other questions I have asked you. Why are you afraid to answer them? Because you are afraid that you will prove that you, like charlo, have no clue in what you are saying?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2015-01-31 11:54:53
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
King, it does you no good to argue with Loldgrim.
But it's fun!

Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Why was his thread closed again? He could just spam away and it could go completely unnoticed. Instead he is shitting up this thread.
We had to bring it to this thread to prevent him from topicbanning people from his thread when they prove him wrong.

Bloodrose said: »
The funny part is, that he cites the Federal Reserve Act as the 16th Amendment, when it isn't.

Additionally, the actual 16th Amendment, was ratified and put into action on December 23rd, 1913, after being proposed in March of 1909.

At that time, the 36 necessary state legislatures signed in agreement, while 6 others signed later on, bringing the total state legislature signature total to 42.
You could also show how many states were in the union on that date too...
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 12:02:54
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I believe I posted a list of what states signed the proposal, including the date.

Numbering from the fist to sign, to the last.

4 state legislatures outright refused to sign it, while the last two chose to ignore the issue altogether.

Then again, it is the responsibility of each and every adult (or working citizen) to pay the aforementioned taxes. They can also elect to challenge the payment amount, but refusing to do so is called tax evasion, which is a federal offense.

Of course, taxes paid to the government, be it state or federal, is used in building and maintaining new and existing infrastructure, procuring and securing local and foreign resources, compensation for state and federal employees, including courts, judges, peace officers, police officers, etc. that would "prosecute" the traitors that Lordgrim believes have turned traitor for buying foreign land or investing in foreign companies, as legally permitted.

Of course, the role of the FRS/FRA also includes things like social security, and it's responsibilities are divided up between Congress, The "Fed" (Federal Reserve), private member banks, and so forth.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2015-01-31 12:06:18
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
We had to bring it to this thread to prevent him from topicbanning people from his thread when they prove him wrong.

sounds like you and him have a lot in common.

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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 12:10:27
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Zero, if you didn't use your avatar with that, I would have.

It works for so much.
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By Bloodrose 2015-01-31 12:14:04
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Actually, King is starting to sound a lot more like pleebo.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2015-01-31 12:17:57
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Bloodrose said: »
Actually, King is starting to sound a lot more like pleebo.

I think you just managed to insult them both.
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