Random Politics & Religion #00

This isn't "Minority Report." You cannot arrest somebody for having an ideal, however stupid it is.

Like I said before, anti-vax parents have to have their child vaccinated for their child to be accepted to public schools (and most private schools, if the ratio is the same in the nation as it is in Texas). If the anti-vax parent is too lazy or stupid to educate themselves, why should we believe that they will educate their children themselves?

You are pulling one incident that happened in Canada to the extreme.

So the "for your own good" or "for my own good" arguments can never be used as justification for preemptively depriving someone of their free will.

Until the day your free will effectively kills someone.

You're life is not in any real measurable danger because the person next to you didn't get/doesn't have a particular vaccine. That is just asinine.

If they ACTUALLY had the measles or small pox or whatever, your life would arguably be in some amount of danger. Not having the measles and not having the measles vaccine are not the same thing. It's stupid to treat them as if they are.

Forced injections at the barrel of a gun (your words a few pages ago) for diseases people don't even have are not part of any civilized social contract. Especially when the rules seemingly don't apply to the massive flux of people illegally running across the boarders.

You want to talk about risk, the risk of measles ultimately doesn't come from your crazy neighbor who chooses not to vaccinate because she has a problem with risk assessment. It comes from the lot of illegals rushing across the borders. But of course that doesn't fit the narratives of hating on the "right" people. We don't want to do anything about the infected people coming into the country, so instead we'll just ***on the people next to us who make different choices.

What Savael is saying is that you can use the "public good" excuse used for vaccines to apply to most anything.

Your retort of "until your free will kills somebody" is weak because our free will have been killing people ever since humans existed.

You can't apply a broad retort on a specific cause and expect people to not counter it.

We are talking about something that spreads and spreads really fast.

I don't think there is a proper solution where everyone is happy. Some countries make it mandatory to be vaccinated to go to school.

Already a 2nd degree felony in the state of Texas.

That's a 2 to 20 year prison sentence and a fine up to $10,000.

I think there's room for discussion on making it a 1st degree felony though. That's up to 99 years of jailtime.

In Idaho and five other states it is perfectly legal to let your child die because religion.

Idaho Defends Crucial Parental Right To Let Own Kids Die For Funsies
Wonkette. You have been warned.

There's no vaccine for accidental deaths either.