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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Internment camps for freedom! 'merka. Asura.Kingnobody said: » If I told you that 1% of humans would kill another, how many people would you allow to live? How are you going to separate the wolves from the sheep? Asura.Kingnobody said: » If I told you that 1% of humans would kill another, how many people would you allow to live? Phoenix.Amandarius
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Enuyasha said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Bahamut.Milamber said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Hey if I put down a bowl of M&Ms and told you that one percent of them could be poisonous, how many would you eat? The article that you got the information from probably would have mentioned that the "poison" only made you pee blue. Plus, I'm not allergic to peanuts. That's more like eating M&M for the cause of probability and statistics. M&Ms should be poured into a cup and sipped or gulped while driving. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Go take your "for the children" BS elsewhere. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Christian values Wouldn't be surprised if his parents are dead and he's orphan... You are so devout to Obama's grand wisdom that you won't even believe your own eyes. Careful nausi, he might shoot you through the computer screen.
Caitsith.Shiroi said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Hey if I put down a bowl of M&Ms and told you that one percent of them could be poisonous, how many would you eat? Sounds very alarmist. What if I told you eating meat increase chances of cancer, would you still eat meat? False equivalence, eating meat doesn't cause cancer. Poison is poison. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » So how much are people here willing to concede for the illusion of absolute safety? Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Go take your "for the children" BS elsewhere. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Christian values Wouldn't be surprised if his parents are dead and he's orphan... You are so devout to Obama's grand wisdom that you won't even believe your own eyes. Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Wouldn't be surprised if his parents are dead and he's orphan... You are so devout to Obama's grand wisdom that you won't even believe your own eyes. This is not the first time there have been child soliders. If the US accepts former child soliders as refugees, that will not be a first either. There are specific organizations in the US -and throughout the world- designed to help child soliders recover from the indoctrination and horrors they experienced on the battlefield. Have children killed US citizens before? Yes. Usually soliders abroad. Is that likely to happen again at some point? Yes. Does that mean we stop trying to help the ones that we can? I don't think so. But after reading your comments I think we probably disagree on this. Are you saying all refugees live on welfare for life? That the US has never benefited from refugees?
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Ragnarok.Nausi said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » So how much are people here willing to concede for the illusion of absolute safety? It's more the left overcompensating for almost three years of ignoring the plight of the Syrian people because Obama drew a red line then backed down. Unfortunately, in their usual fashion they have to be extremely divisive and inflammatory. There is a lot of common ground on this issue. Nearly everyone agrees that we want to help Syrian refugees, but in the times we live in it is prudent to take extra caution when bringing in people from this particular region. It is not Xenophobic. It is not Islamophobic. It is not racist. But this is what is said about people that want to take extra caution when screening people from Syria. We are dealing with an enemy of all humanity whose tactics are to blend in and carry out suicide attacks against civilians. We only have to go back one week to see the devastation that one bad Syrian refugee can cause that slips through screening. There is zero reason that this should be a divisive issue. Even after 7 years of President Obama, politicizing this surprised me. No one claimed to be against screening the refugees, it's only intelligent to do so. I don't see where this divisiveness even is on that.
Ragnarok.Nausi said: » eating meat doesn't cause cancer. Meanwhile they have taken 170 hostages in a hotel in Mali, 3 persons killed so far. They're releasing everyone who shows to able to recite the quran.
Quote: Poison is poison. Quote: Skanky suicide bomber used to be a selfie-taking party animal... She was hardly a model Muslim before she became an ISIS suicide bomber — drinking booze, hanging out with drug dealers and posing for naked photos in a bubble bath... When a cop yelled out, “Where’s your boyfriend?” she answered, “He’s not my boyfriend!” according to a recording that also captured the sound of roaring gunfire. Aitboulahcen then emptied the magazine of a Kalashnikov assault rifle before blowing herself up and becoming Europe’s first female suicide bomber. stuff Question. What drives people to blow themselves up? volkom said: » Question. What drives people to blow themselves up? Fervent beliefs to something bigger than themselves. When you truly believe you're doing the right thing -- and especially when you think it's an act your god will smile upon and allow you into paradise -- it's probably a lot easier than you think. It's like a ranger jumping on a grenade to save the rest of their squad. It's a viewed as a heroic thing to do in our culture. Similarly, in theirs, sacrificing yourself to take out enemies -- or even attempting to do so and failing -- is a glorious act. I'd post a cracked article that's actually fairly serious, but I don't know how seriously it'd be taken by anyone. If you're interested go look it up though. One of their columnists read through a bunch of issues of ISIS' magazine and provides some pretty enlightening feedback and info about it. Apparently, radical religion.
Valefor.Sehachan said: » I know reality is bad, but we already explained to you that a diet high on red meat increases your chances of developing cancer. It's unhealthy. Jetackuu said: » Apparently, radical religion. Religion certainly makes it easier if you think there's an afterlife waiting to reward you, but I'd posit that it's quite possible to do so without that aspect as well if there are other perceived rewards. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » So how much are people here willing to concede for the illusion of absolute safety? I ask that question all the time. Jetackuu said: » Valefor.Sehachan said: » I know reality is bad, but we already explained to you that a diet high on red meat increases your chances of developing cancer. It's unhealthy. Aye. Correlation does not equal causation, but there is some very compelling correlation, enough to at least work on the premise that it does increase your risk. Specifically, flame char on red meat. That said, cancer is a multi-factorial issue with a host of contributors. The very air you breath. The water you drink. Etc. Almost too many to count. I, for one, am going to keep eating my flame-grilled burgers and steaks because they're *** delicious and life is only so long even in the ideal circumstances. Ramyrez said: » Fervent beliefs to something bigger than themselves. This is the answer. It doesn't even have to be religion (though that's certainly the most recent, and obvious example). People have found reasons to sacrifice themselves for as long as there have been people. It doesn't matter whether it's religion, patriotism, or anything else - if someone believes strongly enough in something that transcends them, and feels it can be advanced further by their death than their life, then that's what is going to happen. Drama Torama said: » Ramyrez said: » Fervent beliefs to something bigger than themselves. This is the answer. It doesn't even have to be religion (though that's certainly the most recent, and obvious example). People have found reasons to sacrifice themselves for as long as there have been people. It doesn't matter whether it's religion, patriotism, or anything else - if someone believes strongly enough in something that transcends them, and feels it can be advanced further by their death than their life, then that's what is going to happen. And, as I said, sometimes those people actually are right. At least as far as our society holds such things. We frequently hold in high esteem and honor people who have sacrificed themselves to save others, putting their own life on the line -- or giving it up -- in favor of a greater number or in favor of a life deemed more valuable. I strongly, vehemently disagree with suicide bombers intentions, actions, and beliefs. But I understand what makes them think that way. They use specific drugs that remove fear and give a sense of invincibility to do it, they wouldn't be able otherwise.
Valefor.Sehachan said: » They use specific drugs that remove fear and give a sense of invincibility to do it, they wouldn't be able otherwise. You give human willpower too little credit, though it certainly is the case some of the time that there's a bit of chemical assistance. Valefor.Sehachan said: » They use specific drugs that remove fear and give a sense of invincibility to do it, they wouldn't be able otherwise. Wait, what? Okay, so, coming back to reality for a moment, the motivations for suicide bombers vary between fervent belief, actual nihilism, and in a lot of cases, familial motivation. The families of suicide bombers often get sizable payouts, and that could mean all sorts of things to a poor family - being able to move out of a dangerous neighborhood/region/country, getting a child/nephew/etc into a school abroad, any of a hundred "this money will get my family a better life" applications. Think of it as the world's most violent life insurance. These sums are often multiple times what a family could earn in a year, and when you're that desperate and poor? That could change the lives of literally everyone you love. You think there are people who won't sign up for that? |
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