Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Yeah it's a lot more complex and requires a great amount of out of the box thinking in order to create a new box. Also involves a great deal of math too.
And science does not, apparently.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Yeah it's a lot more complex and requires a great amount of out of the box thinking in order to create a new box. Also involves a great deal of math too. And science does not, apparently. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Bismarck.Bloodrose said: » It's safer to say that AGW is more about Human enhanced global warming, due the over-population of people on earth - which is more than what it was designed to handle. Humans, based on the theories and evidence provided, have been playing a much larger role in aiding global warming (rather than causing it, because the earth has gone through thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of cycles of global warming) in recent years due to the airborne pollutants being produced since the industrial revolution. We've cut down massive amounts of rainforests, which served as a carbon filter, and exuded oxygen as a by product of photosynthesis for farm and factory land for immediate human sustainability. Now, we've come to accept we have a lasting environmental impact, and have begun working to reduce emissions, but also on technology to curtail and nullify waste by finding ways to recycle it. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Bismarck.Bloodrose said: » They didn't just remove the cancerous cells, they removed the cancer cells themselves of certain types of cancers, meaning that the cancer could no longer spread since it would have been eliminated. This kind of research was put to a complete stop because they couldn't recreate the conditions to cultivate the plant needed to continue research. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Treating science as a religion is not. Complete nonsequitur, as always. Bismarck.Bloodrose said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Bismarck.Bloodrose said: » They didn't just remove the cancerous cells, they removed the cancer cells themselves of certain types of cancers, meaning that the cancer could no longer spread since it would have been eliminated. This kind of research was put to a complete stop because they couldn't recreate the conditions to cultivate the plant needed to continue research. Too bad you wouldn't be able to trust the results since all those medical researchers are just working for the money.
Bismarck.Ihina said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Treating science as a religion is not. Complete nonsequitur, as always. How does not equate into a religious belief? Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Too bad you wouldn't be able to trust the results since all those medical researchers are just working for the money. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » 14 pages of inconclusive evidence is barely backing anything up. It's all alarmist material. Nothing even remotely concrete. Are the ice caps melting? All you're doing right now is jumping on the bandwagon. I was talking about scientific consensus. Look, actual work has been done by experts by the scientific model, the same model that is used in every other study. So stop backpedaling into other arguments when you're shot down, as that wasn't what the tangent was about. As far as your accusations there, you're the one jumping on the bandwagon, nice job falling for big oil's propaganda. I get it. Something like cancer research is more understandable to you. However, what is and isn't true doesn't revolve around what you're able to understand.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: » You claim what journalists who quote scientists who came up with an explanation to explain their results among their peers as truth that you must defend without doing any critical thinking on your own. How does not equate into a religious belief? Journalist what? When did I make such a claim? Cerberus.Pleebo said: » I get it. Something like cancer research is more understandable to you. However, what is and isn't true doesn't revolve around what you're able to understand. This may sound like I'm trolling, but I'm genuinely curious. If climate scientists had data that showed that current climate change was just part of the earth's natural cycle and there was no cause for alarm, would most of them still receive funding?
Bismarck.Ihina said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » You claim what journalists who quote scientists who came up with an explanation to explain their results among their peers as truth that you must defend without doing any critical thinking on your own. How does not equate into a religious belief? Journalist what? When did I make such a claim? All you've done is call it a hoax and scam. You can drop the pretense of impartiality. I'm willing to bet you haven't read any of the report I linked.
Bahamut.Ravael said: » This may sound like I'm trolling, but I'm genuinely curious. If climate scientists had data that showed that current climate change was just part of the earth's natural cycle and there was no cause for alarm, would most of them still receive funding? There's also more to climate science than AGW, but you know, who cares about that? Jetackuu said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » 14 pages of inconclusive evidence is barely backing anything up. It's all alarmist material. Nothing even remotely concrete. Are the ice caps melting? All you're doing right now is jumping on the bandwagon. I was talking about scientific consensus. Look, actual work has been done by experts by the scientific model, the same model that is used in every other study. So stop backpedaling into other arguments when you're shot down, as that wasn't what the tangent was about. As far as your accusations there, you're the one jumping on the bandwagon, nice job falling for big oil's propaganda. Bahamut.Ravael said: » This may sound like I'm trolling, but I'm genuinely curious. If climate scientists had data that showed that current climate change was just part of the earth's natural cycle and there was no cause for alarm, would most of them still receive funding? Yes? From the oil, logging and gas industries that'd pay a mint for data saying they have nothing to do with the Earth goofing? Or from universities that'd want to be the groundbreakers on this reversal of current trends. Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » I get it. Something like cancer research is more understandable to you. However, what is and isn't true doesn't revolve around what you're able to understand. A lot of pharmaceutical companies actually push for the delay of curative research, because treatment is a better money maker.
Regardless of what the malady is. Seriously, go on to one of those home doctor sites, and look up a common malady or symptom. Look at how much of them intersect with minor medical problems, and major. You're going to want to get treated for something major before even considering the minor. Because you read about it on the internet. More than half the time, the "fear mongering" you see, comes from your own misinterpretation of facts and hypotheses. Or lack of understanding of how something works. For example: One could say that religion is a scam, because of a predominant exposure to evidence that says it is, and by ignoring evidence to the contrary, simply because they've already considered the first exposure to be true, and will do everything in their power to discredit anything stating otherwise. When it comes to Anthropogenic Global Warming, there is an overwhelming amount of evidence from multiple credible sources, which also link to documents and researches that state otherwise. To some degree, global warming was going to happen, and ultimately shift the magnetic poles over a vast amount of time. The evidence being presented to us, is about the human impact we're having on global climate change, is that we've irrefutably sped up the process, and can thus claim human induced global climate change. In order to do so, we have to use the best tools at our disposal to create a study using hypothesis and collected data to explain the current theory behind it. There hasn't been a whole lot of evidence presented that we haven't polluted the earth to the point of being negligible in producing additional or excess green house gases for our immediate sustainability. Bahamut.Ravael said: » This may sound like I'm trolling, but I'm genuinely curious. If climate scientists had data that showed that current climate change was just part of the earth's natural cycle and there was no cause for alarm, would most of them still receive funding? Cerberus.Pleebo said: » All you've done is call it a hoax and scam. You can drop the pretense of impartiality. I'm willing to bet you haven't read any of the report I linked. Have you read any links I posted? See how this works both ways? Why should I listen to your parroting of what others have to say versus critical thinking of the issue? Not directed at you, but when did I ever say I was for big oil? In the beginning few pages I said I'm against real pollution. IE. pipeline bursts and fracking. Now who's being selective? Jetackuu said: » Bahamut.Ravael said: » This may sound like I'm trolling, but I'm genuinely curious. If climate scientists had data that showed that current climate change was just part of the earth's natural cycle and there was no cause for alarm, would most of them still receive funding? There's also more to climate science than AGW, but you know, who cares about that? I'm sure there is more to it, but it only makes sense that they receive more funding due to there being a potential crisis. I'm not going to say it's all a scam to score more cash for researchers, but there's no denying that it promotes bias. Encouraging impartiality in scientific fields is difficult when there's more money on the line for a particular result. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Leviathan.Chaosx said: » Cerberus.Pleebo said: » I get it. Something like cancer research is more understandable to you. However, what is and isn't true doesn't revolve around what you're able to understand. Yeah and then you would ask for a source to such bold statements. Like you don't know that wouldn't be the rebuttal..
Leviathan.Chaosx said: » So you're a climate scientist then? I am not, but there is a middle group between being a climate scientist and relying on journalist for your scientific information. I don't even read scientific news articles unless they're written by the scientist themselves. Cerberus.Pleebo said: » All you've done is call it a hoax and I've provided links to source information. You've ignored it because you don't *** care. Just admit that and move on. Valefor.Sehachan said: » Yeah and then you would ask for a source to such bold statements. Like you don't know that wouldn't be the rebuttal.. |
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