U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds
U.S. Climate Has Already Changed, Study Finds
"I would never work for free but I expect climate scientists to."
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Provoke a different way of thinking sure. As you cannot prove a negative, only poke holes in it at best. Asking someone to disprove something that they themselves cannot prove makes no sense.
Are you even aware of why you can't prove AGW, but at best, can only give evidence that it's happening?
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
This is moronic. If anthropogenic global warming theory is so readily disprovable,
then post something that disproves it.
No idiotic cartoons. No strawmen. Post actual *** science.
If you're still waiting on conclusive evidence, it is not because there is a lack of any. It is because you're intentionally ignoring it.
then post something that disproves it.
No idiotic cartoons. No strawmen. Post actual *** science.
If you're still waiting on conclusive evidence, it is not because there is a lack of any. It is because you're intentionally ignoring it.
This is starting to look like one of the oldie but goodie "burden of proof" arguments. LOL!
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It isn't. Evidence can exist that supports the conclusion that current climate change is a natural phenomenon.
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Give me a multimillion dollar research grant and I'll prove whatever you want.
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Here's a dollar. Go back to being background noise.
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Yeah, because that's why scientist become scientist to begin with.
To get rich.
To get rich.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Give me a multimillion dollar research grant and I'll prove whatever you want.
Or is this just the case with global warming/climate change?
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Yeah, because that's why scientist become scientist to begin with.
To get rich.
To get rich.
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Give me a multimillion dollar research grant and I'll prove whatever you want.
Isn't that what certain industries do with regard to presenting scientists that deny whatever event is occurring along with arguing against the impact of consequential preventative measures that would hinder profits?
I'm sure some do, but our friend here is asserting that the whole scientific community pushing for a false agenda in order to get rich, not just some.
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Give me a multimillion dollar research grant and I'll prove whatever you want.
Or is this just the case with global warming/climate change?
People attack any study the Koch brothers fund, yet Al Gore can fund anything he wants and have it be truth.
You can fund and research all you want, but unless you have something to show for all the research it's just another money/time sink.
At best global warming research has just given politicians something to argue about, rather than come to any agreement on how to fix anything remotely important to the way society or the economy is ran.
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Give me a multimillion dollar research grant and I'll prove whatever you want.
Isn't that what certain industries do with regard to presenting scientists that deny whatever event is occurring along with arguing against the impact of consequential preventative measures that would hinder profits?
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
People attack any study the Koch brothers fund, yet Al Gore can fund anything he wants and have it be truth.
Going by some posts in this thread and the opinions of people living in middle America in the heart of coal production that statement that anything Al Gore says is held as truth, ain't exactly true.
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I'm sure some do, but our friend here is asserting that the whole scientific community pushing for a false agenda in order to get rich, not just some.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
People attack any study the Koch brothers fund, yet Al Gore can fund anything he wants and have it be truth.
One side is set to gain tens/hundreds of millions from preventing environmental regulations.
If you can believe a whole community is crooked for a few million, you can believe that one corporation is crooked for tens/hundreds of millions.
Which studies have Al Gore funded btw?
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Provoke a different way of thinking sure. As you cannot prove a negative, only poke holes in it at best. Asking someone to disprove something that they themselves cannot prove makes no sense.
I'll still take the collective scientific community' word on something, even if they may be wrong, than a group of quack scientists who are in the pockets of big oil.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Some don't even know they're being led astray. Their hearts and/or minds might be in the right place, but their basic assumption dates back to ideas that originated over a 100 years ago. Well before the drastic increase of CO2. So what were their intention back then? We may never know.
Who, exactly, are you referring to?
Can you answer my previous question? Do you know why we can't prove AGW but only give evidence for it?
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Provoke a different way of thinking sure. As you cannot prove a negative, only poke holes in it at best. Asking someone to disprove something that they themselves cannot prove makes no sense.
I'll still take the collective scientific community' word on something, even if they may be wrong, than a group of quack scientists who are in the pockets of big oil.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I'm sure some do, but our friend here is asserting that the whole scientific community pushing for a false agenda in order to get rich, not just some.
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Some don't even know they're being led astray. Their hearts and/or minds might be in the right place, but their basic assumption dates back to ideas that originated over a 100 years ago. Well before the drastic increase of CO2. So what were their intention back then? We may never know.
Who, exactly, are you referring to?
Can you answer my previous question? Do you know why we can't prove AGW but only give evidence for it?
I have no idea what all these acronyms are. I haven't researched any of them.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Jetackuu said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Provoke a different way of thinking sure. As you cannot prove a negative, only poke holes in it at best. Asking someone to disprove something that they themselves cannot prove makes no sense.
I'll still take the collective scientific community' word on something, even if they may be wrong, than a group of quack scientists who are in the pockets of big oil.
The two aren't even comparable, the one has evidence backing up it's claims, the other uses circular logic.
You claim to try to provoke thought, but about the best you're accomplishing is annoying trolling. There's better ways to go about it.
2+ billion a year for a "science" that would simply evaporate if there was no call for alarm.
It's a game, the scientists that sound the biggest alarm, get the most money.
It's a game, the scientists that sound the biggest alarm, get the most money.
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Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I'm sure some do, but our friend here is asserting that the whole scientific community pushing for a false agenda in order to get rich, not just some.
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Bismarck.Ihina said: »
I'm sure some do, but our friend here is asserting that the whole scientific community pushing for a false agenda in order to get rich, not just some.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Scientists in general.
I have no idea what all these acronyms are. I haven't researched any of them.
I have no idea what all these acronyms are. I haven't researched any of them.
So you're just antagonizing scientist in general.
I'll take a gamble that you're not all that into the big bang theory and evolution either.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
I never said science is wrong. Science has neither an absolute wrong or right. It's always changing to explain that which was unexplainable.
I'm pretty sure that objects fall to the Earth at an acceleration of 9.8m/s while in a vacuum. I think you should stop talking about science if you don't know anything about it.
AGW: Anthropogenic Global Warming - human induced global warming.
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Lakshmi.Flavin said: »
Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
Give me a multimillion dollar research grant and I'll prove whatever you want.
Or is this just the case with global warming/climate change?
People attack any study the Koch brothers fund, yet Al Gore can fund anything he wants and have it be truth.
You can fund and research all you want, but unless you have something to show for all the research it's just another money/time sink.
At best global warming research has just given politicians something to argue about, rather than come to any agreement on how to fix anything remotely important to the way society or the economy is ran.
If you're talking about developing a cure all device well we could be waiting forever for that. We still ahven't solved the riddles that plague the human body no matter how many billions have been thrown at it.
Fix the situation! But don't study it thouroughly... don't make anything more expensive and don't do anything that could possibly change anything in my own life!
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