Ark Angels II / Divine Might II (Discussion)

Well,
2 songs just means 0 minuet
3 songs = 1 minuet
4 songs = 2 minuet

Minuets aren't absolutely necessary, but they're nice to have and they help.

I don't think anyone takes you seriously. MR, without SV GH madrigals floors you acc regardless of gear pretty much. You claim to do it with a single DD so w/e and in ~8 minutes ( 12 minus time to zone and buff) with a thf whose melee hits do 1/3 of the single monk. At least it feeds trolls. I wish such a setup worked (MNK,PLD,WHM,THF,COR,BRD), that would means the next 2 bc will be cake too..

To be fair, a THF's swing does closer to a bit over 1/2 a hit of a MNK, and has about 1.3x to 1.5x more swings. Also, our Mercy Stroke does 2k minimum, up to 3.5k when used with SA/TA regardless of evasion; I know a lot of people are having a hard time breaking 2k. Looking back at my log, one of my WSs was for 2k, the rest around 2.6k and one for 3.5k. VD Galka.

Not saying THF > MNK, but we're not that far behind.

Where is yours by the way ? You failed ?

there's a whole page of testimonies about it, didn't consider it worth my time

Yes. he managed to out DDed a Gandiva 119 ranger.. lol



Everyone and their cousin who still plays would know SE did an update to reduce recasts of 2hr ability to 1hr...

dude what the hell is your problem what more do u want lmao? 8 min of 2 sv ghorn mads, then 4 min of 1 nq ghorn mad and 1 marcato'd mad, not *** rocket science here. just admit that you're wrong please and move on, because you have been proved wrong

No not at all. 2 song BRD gets you both Preludes.
3rd song gives you Valor Minuet 5.
4th song gives you Valor Minuet 4.

Minuets are only needed if your RNGs are lacking gear/skills. Even then, only so much a RNG can do if PLD isn't doing his/her best with enmity.

Your so obtuse, first of all for MR and HM we use THF+RNG as the DD, and the screenshots clearly show we won, how can you sit here and deny that. Even when accuracy becomes horrible and feint is down, THF only needs to hit enough to get TP for a stacked mercy stroke, which does 2.5-4.5k depending on extra hits. Just because you can't accomplish things without the cookie-cutter approach and current most overpowered job in the game, doesn't mean its not possible, but i don't see why you have to sit here and tell people that it is, like its detrimental to you for people to be good without being on the arguably easiest job in the game, monk.

In a previous post you said mnk instead of rng so I just wanted to be sure. You use rng strat so give me a break with your lol thf. So as suggested by one of your previous post show a video of it being killed with the setup you suggested which is

WHM COR MNK BRD PLD THF

(no *** clue what a pld would do in this case... which is one of the 100 reasons I called ***)

Pathetic excuse. For refresence I want a video of a galka VD being killed with the strat you suggested :

WHM BRD COR MNK/WAR x 3

MNK/WAR dont equip any pdt

are you going to use a spellcast excuse like elysien. Maybe you should just admit you can't at this point.

I thought people were being harsh when they said you were this ignorant, whats the point of me going and killing it with MNK+THF if your only going to deny that, even if its in a video with me in thf af wearing a mandau using mercy stroke with the equipment menu open and you would still deny it i'm sure at this point.

No because you can't kill it in the way you described... PLD is not able to hold hate from any DD beside RNG etc, and you are pretending that a single monk equals the damage of 3... there is a reason no info can be found on DD kills except galka (your setup doesn't even work on galka obviously)

PS : and the MNK/nin strat on galka strat is not even 100% or else you would not see people talk RNG.

What you claimed :

This type of trolling gets people really wound up, clever, Pchan

Collabotor reduces the CE/VE of the MNK by 35% every 60 seconds, while the PLD and THF remain capped through melee hits or enmity-grabbing actions. It very simple mechanics, this causes the MNK to have the attention of the NM less often, and spend less time casting utsusemi, and reduced the targets bouncing hate the majority of the time to two targets, which further increases the amount of time the PLD has the attention of the monster. This also provides a safety net if anyone dies, the others can turn and just let the PLD hold the NM.

You can't completely claim THF and PLD do no damage, the MNK will always win the parse but the THF and PLD through simple enmity mechanics increase a MNKs damage output, and on top of that the THF does reasonably well on their own.

You can continue to claim THF does no damage at all, but then you have to admit we won MR very hard with THF+PLD+RNG and the RNG did all the damage in 10 minutes and is far more efficient then three MNK, which i don't even beleive is true, but thats the only conclusion drawn by your saying THF does no damage at all.

He isn't, in your mind thf is being carried, in his scenario described, thf is being a DD. If you want people to take your argument seriously, maybe you should try to argue on the point of how thf is doing 0 dmg (since you claim the scenario being a single mnk = 3 DD, then thf must be doing 0 dmg).


Ihina and some others in the thread told you how THF isn't a sucky DD, if you want to prove how this is NOT the case, you should focus on how THF IS a very sucky DD.

RNG or MNK isn't exactly the relevant part of the argument of "you can't do this with a THF", unless you're saying RNG = 3 DDs, or you'er saying VD can be done with a single RNG.


I'd imagine Trick attack from THF prolly helps, as does accomplice. As to whether that's enough I don't know

It is funny you still try to deny it when there are several screenshots providing photographic evidence it can be done. And PLD not being able to hold hate against any DD besides RNG? Ever start to think the PLDs you go with are garbage, like you? Go ahead, wave the white flag and give up on trying it because that is what your people are good at.

lmfao, mad as ***

PLD is not able to hold hate against any monk. With collaborator, the thf will have hate then the monk will gain it back in a couple of seconds. The pld is only here to hold the wyvern (or in the HM case, is useless), never has hate and the thf and mnk will have their faces smacked.

Wat, I have done GK on VD ~40 times and never lost, every time has involved 3 melees. Usually 3 mnk/nin but we've done with 2mnk+thf and on a couple of occassions with /war sub. We have had rare deaths with either sub but never come close to losing.

Rng setups work fine for obviously but 3 melee setup is 100% safe on GK if you aren't dumb.

You're just giving credence to the lolPchan bandwagon by refusing to do anything except your 2mnk 2brd 2whm strat and then claiming other strats don't work.

Pchan stfu and stop posting on these forums k

Seriously, how the *** do people lose with the mnk/nin strat? It's 100% foolproof unless you can't do enough damage to kill it in time. I defend you on occasion because you sometimes post relevant information, but you've gone completely full retard and give strength to the lolpchan bandwagon.

my strat had a smn and i never said i don't use pdt.. my upload is trash so i'm not making a video(not to mention the associated lag considering I have 9 chars logged in as is)

You want to accept screenshots, apologize to the asurans and i'll give you some. Why would I waste my time when there's no hint that you'll believe me either way? You're clearly delusional and too hung up on the fact that you can't do it to change your setup to something that can.

yeah my bad replace 1 mnk by 1 smn, even less likely. And yeah your strat entirely relies on not equipping pdt or else ea/sherzo won't proc..

And?

Also you can use some PDT and be safe getting procs.

Eh gimplet I don't care about you mnk/nin strat on VD galka ok ? That's not what I am arguing so unless you can provide a smn strat with exclusevily mnk/wars as DD go away.

My way works 100% of the time 50% of the time, so it always works!

you said /nin wasn't 100% win, which it obviously is unless you're HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.

well, my excuse was actually cocoon wearing off from my /blu. otherwise, mnk/blu is the way to go 100% (also full time pdt with 4pdt/10acc augmented otronif.)

dring doesn't hurt either.