Shut 'em Down!

You are confusing the defining principles of United States of America with the defining principles of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union.

Edit: I claim this page in the name of Halloween Candy issuing Obama.


Notice the Star Wars and Funny pointed white hats in the background!

/sigh

listen ok... I already agreed with you... I said that it was wrong that he declared that you could keep the same policy and he should be held accountable for that... how you want to do that idk... think of something fun... but just so I can say it again for you... It was wrong... I'm not defending him for saying that and not coming through...

Still with me? Ok... There are definitely some policies that are being cancelled due to the fact that they don't meet the requirements for the ACA... This does bother me... if people want policies that only cover one or two things they should be able to... I mean... we allow people to pay a fine so they don't have any coverage? Why can't we have policies that don't have full coverage? I'm with you on this...

Here's where you turn a blind eye to everything... your distaste for the bill seems to cloud your mind from seeing that there are other people using this as a cover... cutting policies that are complient because they want to get them off of their coverage and onto the exchange... blaming it on ACA even though it isn't because of the ACA... is this all of them? No, it is not. It's happening more than you think it is though and people just take it because they think there is nothing they can do about it as its not the company doing it to them but someone else... My gripe is with this... You can get all the profits you want for all I care... don't take advantage of a situation then shift the blame onto something else...

This ignores the potential increase in revenue from having a swath of new customers due to the individual mandate.

Planning on burning my American passport just for Nausi/Aman/King to join a jihadist cell so I can make videos condemning the United States, daring Obama to drone me and then finishing it off with plugging this site. Failing that I'll head to Scandanavia and live in liberal utopia. Catch ya on the flipside!

"Death to America... and be sure to visit FFXIAH.com for all your Final Fantasy, Random Thought and Political+Religion discussions."

I'm guilty of absolutely nothing. My parents are from a former British holding, their parents were subsistence farmers and laborers with a dash of poverty just about *** everywhere. It has fascinated me reading American history because well, I'm an American! See, here's my pet bald eagle - Freedom. I even know the entire Star Spangled Banner by heart!

Thanks, Obama.

And they are all also affected by federal law...

I just don't get why there's this lack of outrage with the ACA but if you do it on a smaller scale its like well it doesn't affect as many people so its ok to try it out here... shouldn't you still hold the stance that any kind of government should not force you to get any product?

I highly doubt that.

I'm guilty of being an ignorant fool who lapped up media reports and what I was taught in school. I'm currently serving a life sentence of trying to peel back the truth and realize that I've been living in the Galactic Empire with Chancellor Obama instilling tyranny across the galaxy. Currently reading:

The Fountainhead
The Communist Manifesto
50 Shades of Gray

:/

those look like healthy snacks!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

THANKS OBAMA!!!

What's Obamas costume supposed to be? Fred Rogers? WORST PRESIDENT EVER. I remember this one time Reagan dressed up as Freedom and Democracy as all the children burst into tears of patriotic joy.

And what is Michelle wearing?! Did no one tell her that animal prints are just dreadful? And whats with those Easter baskets? Can't the government get with the program and get some Jack 'O Lanterns? I'm being crushed under taxes here and these clowns cant even do a photo op properly.

THANKS OBAMA.

There was always that one jerk that handed out tooth brushes or healthy snacks at halloween...

Healthy snacks? Unleash the frozen eggs. Aim for the windows for massive damage and toilet paper the place before falling back.

The best part was everyone else had the exact same idea....

jerks entire house and yard buried under a thick white blanket of toilet paper...

Bonus for raining that evening.

For those nights, you splurged and got the good ***, the quilted kind that sticks to the trees and bushes for days/weeks afterwards.

Nausi was Chewbacca, I was the stormtrooper.

So just to clarify here... you do understand that every policy cancelled was not due to legal specifications laid out by the ACA?

And your argument is they have to get rid of these underperforming policies just to stay profitable as a company because every policy they did have that the ACA nixed were profitable for them and they must make up for it now?

That makes the assumption that the policies that are being nixed by the ACA were all profitable for them... It also ignore the potential influx of policies that will come their way... Your whole argument is based upon assumptions... unfounded ones too... I'm not saying this is true either but for all you know it could have helped them get rid of a bunch of policies they didn't want anymore buy giving them a reason to...

In any case some are still being dishonest about the way they are going about it and their reasons for doing it... You don't really hear many coming out and saying they got cancelled because they can't stay afloat without it... they say they do it because the ACA legally forced them to drop the policies...

things I would like to see added to your list:

Mein Kampf

Media Control

The book of Mormon

Insurance is MORE expensive now due to the increased coverage levels so people who weren't covered before now are paying more money for a product they didn't want to buy before in the first place. Maybe they'll be lucky and qualify for a subsidy and maybe that subsidy will kick them down into a level where the reduced cost is something they'll be able to afford. Or maybe they'll just skip out and pay the fine.

Hell, if they're poor enough, the system will kick them onto medicaid the vast majority of accounts made on the site have produced such a result so far.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say increased revenue from the individual mandate isn't as much of a "sure thing" as you think it is. Don't think this isn't know by those in the insurance industry, and don't think they haven't already reacted that way.

Soooooooo..what you're saying is "don't think"?

got it.

can you read the anarchist cookbook without being waterboarded at gitmo?

When the administration is bulling some to keep quiet about the roll out results, would it be surprising to learn that others wouldn't want to publicly contradict the president?



Are you really so willfully obtuse as to always extend the government the benefit of the doubt?

Are you still basing these increases on that bogus Heritage "study"? If you have any other supporting information I'd be happy to read it. I'm not saying that the potential for increases doesn't exist, but pretending that an entire country of customers isn't a potential boon is being totally one-sided.

Again you gotta listen to that last 20 seconds of the video to see that it was sensational hype.

They keep quiet because the biggest source of income is the Federal Government. And you guys act like you know a thing about business.

you can but then you're definitely on a list.

By everything that you've posted so far you have no idea how the insurance industry knows and why they are reacting the way they are... more likely you watched some conservative leaning talk show or read an article and made a decision based on assumptions you made from that...

even your arguments here don't really support your what your trying to say... all your saying now is that people will be paying the insurance companies more money and that some of them will get subsidies which still means that the insurance companies will get their money... then you make an unfounded assumption that everyone seeking to get these policies needs this health insurance to go to the doctor right away and get something taken care of...

You've taken a stance on something that you truly don't understand... don't worry I've been there too... and you make statements like you've been to the future know how this affects people and companies and that its just all bad news... more expensive for everyone and everywhere! you ignore the whole other side of this...

lol what a joke...

It has nothing to do with being wilfully obtuse or giving the government the benefit of the doubt... This has to do with the actually possibilities and how this is actually affecting people and companies...

you've already made up your mind that its a bad thing before it even started and refuse to accept any other possibility as any kind of truth... you're being wilfully ignorant and closeminded...

So he talked to one guy, a guy works as a consultant to insurance agencies and a guy the reported admits is a vocal critic of Obama, then filled the rest of his on-air time with quite obviously prepared talking points.

A+ journalism CNN, as always.

Flavin states no one says they're dropping policies because of how the ACA affects their bottom line

Nausi posts video of CNN interview citing threats of strong-arming and bullying of insurance companies by the administration if they don't tow the line.

Flavin: "What a joke!"

Par for the course in the FFXIAH political forum. What? Obama and his administration could never do such a thing?

Do you sincerely think that is an honest and thorough piece of journalism?