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 Asura.Kingnobody
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-10-14 16:35:02
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You are placing the blame on only one person, when this issue is clearly on the head of 3 people...
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 16:53:51
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The blame for the shutdown lays squarely on Boehner and the Tea Party idiots in the House that he bent over for, and the credit for ending the shutdown and averting a default will go to Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell. Just like last time.
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By Zerowone 2013-10-14 17:10:32
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Don't forget Eric Cantor.. he's always good for blames.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-10-14 17:17:58
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Hey, while we are at it, lets blame every single Republican congressman ever existed.

Why not every single Republican president too, even Lincoln! Cause, if he didn't free those slaves, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with!

Why not also blame Jesus, cause Christianity is the evil of society.

Heck, lets blame the big bang that started it all, we wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for that ***.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-10-14 17:19:40
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If that's not going full retard, then I don't know what is.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-10-14 17:28:48
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Naw, we'll just blame the racist nativists who prop up the radical movement known as the Tea Party.

Remember kiddies, Obama is a Muslim, wasn't born here, doesn't look like us and has wants this country to fail. Liberals are all communists seeking to undermine the country, don't know what 'Murica is and hate our freedoms. Republicans who don't back our aims are all RINOs and should be primaried with the utmost impunity.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 17:29:53
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Hey, while we are at it, lets blame every single Republican congressman ever existed.

Why not every single Republican president too, even Lincoln! Cause, if he didn't free those slaves, we wouldn't be in this mess to begin with!

Why not also blame Jesus, cause Christianity is the evil of society.

Heck, lets blame the big bang that started it all, we wouldn't be in this mess if it wasn't for that ***.

Or we could just blame the handful of current ones that have been mentioned that are actually to blame...
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 17:34:15
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Naw, we'll just blame the racist nativists who prop up the radical movement known as the Tea Party.

Remember kiddies, Obama is a Muslim, wasn't born here, doesn't look like us and has wants this country to fail. Liberals are all communists seeking to undermine the country, don't know what 'Murica is and hate our freedoms. Republicans who don't back our aims are all RINOs and should be primaried with the utmost impunity.

Or constantly accuse any moderate or pragmatic realist of being a closet liberal or Obama lover.
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By Zerowone 2013-10-14 17:41:49
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Well... this round of posts earned a much deserved funk break:

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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-10-14 17:46:25
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
If that's not going full retard, then I don't know what is.
That went full on HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE, we would have to call it "going Pleebo".
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2013-10-14 17:46:32
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There are no moderates. Any nuanced answers regarding the President, Congress or Government in general are just excuses designed to cloak Democrats from any blame. You love Obama, you love the ACA, you want to see our country fail and you are a communist. Independents are just secret Democrats who hate children, are communists, hate America and are nothing other than freeloaders who haven't read the Constitution.

Republicans however on the other hand are the one true solution to our societies ills and with the righteous sword of capitalism, they cut through the darkness of communism. Born in the core of a dying star, Republicans have done nothing but solve our self-inflicted problems and like true Americans only want to see a glorious golden age brought to our chosen land once more.

If you didn't know, Jesus was a Republican and you bet your Bible that he clung to his God and carpenter's tools when those Roman communists tried to raise taxes on his small business. Before giving his life for us all, he drafted the Constitution and left it in the hands of our Republican, Christian Founders who crafted a utopia before communists ruined everything.

Long live the Confederate States of America.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-10-14 17:48:09
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Naw, we'll just blame the racist nativists who prop up the radical movement known as the Tea Party.

Remember kiddies, Obama is a Muslim, wasn't born here, doesn't look like us and has wants this country to fail. Liberals are all communists seeking to undermine the country, don't know what 'Murica is and hate our freedoms. Republicans who don't back our aims are all RINOs and should be primaried with the utmost impunity.
Only liberals believe that.

Why not place blame on the other 2 "leaders" in this whole fiasco?

...wait, don't do it? Because they are liberals? Need to place blame on those who aren't liberals? *** that *** >.>
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By Zerowone 2013-10-14 17:50:58
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Naw, we'll just blame the racist nativists who prop up the radical movement known as the Tea Party.

Remember kiddies, Obama is a Muslim, wasn't born here, doesn't look like us and has wants this country to fail. Liberals are all communists seeking to undermine the country, don't know what 'Murica is and hate our freedoms. Republicans who don't back our aims are all RINOs and should be primaried with the utmost impunity.
Only liberals believe that.

Why not place blame on the other 2 "leaders" in this whole fiasco?

...wait, don't do it? Because they are liberals? Need to place blame on those who aren't liberals? *** that *** >.>

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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 17:53:58
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Naw, we'll just blame the racist nativists who prop up the radical movement known as the Tea Party.

Remember kiddies, Obama is a Muslim, wasn't born here, doesn't look like us and has wants this country to fail. Liberals are all communists seeking to undermine the country, don't know what 'Murica is and hate our freedoms. Republicans who don't back our aims are all RINOs and should be primaried with the utmost impunity.
Only liberals believe that.

Why not place blame on the other 2 "leaders" in this whole fiasco?

...wait, don't do it? Because they are liberals? Need to place blame on those who aren't liberals? *** that *** >.>

Did it ever cross your warped mind that the reason they aren't being blamed by the masses has less to do with their party affiliation and more to do with their GUILT?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 18:12:24
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Why not place blame on the other 2 "leaders" in this whole fiasco?

...wait, don't do it? Because they are liberals? Need to place blame on those who aren't liberals? *** that *** >.>

Why? Reid and the Senate did their job, they passed a bill to fund the gov't before the Oct 1 deadline. Job. Done. Boehner shut it down. Job. Still. Not done.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-10-14 18:36:20
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Keep repeating it Vic and you might even start to believe that yourself.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 18:38:53
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Keep repeating it Vic and you might even start to believe that yourself.

That's the great thing about reality and facts, it makes no difference whether you believe them or not.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 18:41:11
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Phoenix.Amandarius said: »
Keep repeating it Vic and you might even start to believe that yourself.

Its not a matter of belief, its historical fact. Keep trying.
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By Phoenix.Amandarius 2013-10-14 18:47:04
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If you were honest you wouldn't repeat it.

Two sides A and B. If A doesn't go along with what B wants the government shuts down. If B doesn't do what A wants the government shuts down. You cannot just blame the Republicans, it's foolish, beyond reason and logic.

In your world we all do what the Democratic majority in the Senate wants, all the time. There aren't two houses of Congress, there is the Senate Democratic majority. Compromise is do what they want or the government shuts down and it's your fault.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2013-10-14 18:55:23
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Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Why not place blame on the other 2 "leaders" in this whole fiasco?

...wait, don't do it? Because they are liberals? Need to place blame on those who aren't liberals? *** that *** >.>

Why? Reid and the Senate did their job, they passed a bill to fund the gov't before the Oct 1 deadline. Job. Done. Boehner shut it down. Job. Still. Not done.
Boehner passed several bills before the October 1 deadline to fund the government, Reid didn't even bring those bills into the Senate. Still Boehner's fault?

Try again.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 18:55:41
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I'm not blaming the entire GOP, I'm blaming Boehner and the Tea Party idiots in the House. There are over 20 Republicans in the House that wanted Boehner to put the Senate bill to a vote on September 30th and avoid the shutdown. They even tried to stage a revolt in order to bypass the Speaker and force the bill to a vote. They are not at fault and not being blamed. Done yet?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 18:56:37
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Shiva.Viciousss said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »

Why not place blame on the other 2 "leaders" in this whole fiasco?

...wait, don't do it? Because they are liberals? Need to place blame on those who aren't liberals? *** that *** >.>

Why? Reid and the Senate did their job, they passed a bill to fund the gov't before the Oct 1 deadline. Job. Done. Boehner shut it down. Job. Still. Not done.
Boehner passed several bills before the October 1 deadline to fund the government, Reid didn't even bring those bills into the Senate. Still Boehner's fault?

Try again.

Yep. Next.
 
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 20:52:40
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If this tyrannical rule change doesn't take place, the gov't is open on Oct. 2 and 800,000 Americans don't get furloughed.
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-10-14 21:12:30
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I'm honestly curious why this topic hasn't got more screen time. I want a variety of news programs and I haven't seen it once. Moreover, why haven't any of the AP reporters at these little press junkets asked the speaker or any of the ranking members of the house rules committee about this change?

I don't understand media in America, I don't understand the bias toward sensationalism, the bias toward fairness, the omission of facts that clearly point a very different set of ethics between these two parties, and how the Tea Party has such a stranglehold on public opinion.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-10-14 21:18:38
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It just broke over the weekend when van Hollen discovered it and called them out on it. A lot of the liberal sites are really running with it, CNN just reported it today, and unsurprisingly, the story is no where to be found on foxnews.
 
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By Zerowone 2013-10-14 22:36:44
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Going to play devils advocate since its a question that's been annoying me since first posting the video back on page 41.


Wtf at the house democrats for being asleep at the wheel to allow HR368 to even pass? Or is there something about this resolution that allowed it to be resolved without house approval?



Que Amandarius "see it is both sides fault" response.
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