Opinions On FFXI's Life.

I mean this by how long the game will still be up for how long do you all think it'll be on for? Just bored and looking for other people's views and opinions.

I think it'll still be up for at least another year or 2 maybe more, and I think if they advertised this game again like wow always do they'd get more players, maybe even some old ones back too. with it being easier to level now etc.

What do you all think? Thanks!

Server merges should be expected soon, however even cutting them in half it's still a fairly good number. Game is not shining but it's not so close to death as some doomsayers make it seem.

I'd say 3 years minimum. It really depends on the amount of content SE pumps back into this game as well.

17 active servers, with about 700-1k logged on during US prime, and 2k+ during Japanese prime. On Fenrir anyway, do think other servers are so far off, yes I know so many are 24/7 logged on bazaars and what nots or bots or RMT or multi-account. Regardless, these accounts are still revenue. All in all would say about 3k paid accounts active per server, @ 17 servers that is still ~ 50,000 + accounts paying to play. SE revenues should be at the minimal 600k US (probably much more) a month from just FFXI account services. I would think SE will keep FFXI running and semi-upgrded until it become not profitable to do so. It is all speculation at what point that is. I am interested to see if FFXIV will hit the million member mark? It is an interesting thought if it did. Would probably not only save the company but give it a huge boost. However I have seen very little for advertisements at all for FFXIV, when I see other game advertisements constantly.

I'm seeing advertisements all over the place, on youtube. on league of legend websites and other game websites. Even spotted articles on several news sites.

They've put a lot of content in to it in the last year. I think the problem is that you really can't continue on the vertical gear path since SE isn't able to develop content faster than players can play it.

When you replace all the gear and thus obsolete events, you have issues with people finishing everything and not having anything left to do.

Vertical progression requires some sort of barrier for entry in to higher events to work. It doesn't really help that SE released content levels all out of order and that many pieces of gear are not really accurate in their ratings. Hell there's still all kinds of unbalance in the various weapons and armor available for certain jobs.

Despite that, many of us still like the game and will still play whatever it has to offer so I doubt it'll go anywhere. But their chances to fix things and bring XI back to a healthy level are slipping away.

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this is the second time i read a post like this. People said that during the abyssea era i doubt it this game will end it will just turn similar to ever quest

There are more advertisement than you think, but most important of all, FFXIV probably has one of the most successful marketing strategy in MMO industry for past 5 years.

The fact that it relaunched already made an impact in the industry, since nobody ever done that before. Yoshi-P release letter from dev often, and communicate with players about his goal, design philosophy and ideal. Those are part of the marketing. Even though his ideal may or may not be fully realized after launch, it does make an impact, to grab player's attention.

Also after launch, all that 1017 issue made everyone can't play the game, that SE had to stop digital sell and all hard copy sold out, that made other players wonder "what's so good about this game, that everyone wants to play it?" Then the more ppl spark interest, despite they can't find a copy at all. The harder it is to get into the game, it sparks more curiosity and more players pay attention to the game.

Note that all servers full isn't entirely because there's just that many ppl want to play, but lack of afk kick at launch. My ls/fc been warning ppl "don't log out if you get in", even after maint it's still *** hard to log in on JP prime time/JP server, and that made me less likely want to log out, and ended up occupying a spot on server. Everyone just afk and occupy a spot due to 1017 issue.

But for players didn't play and see mountains of afkers on server, they'd just go "I really want to check out this game if server that full"

And out of 10 people that check out the game, some will stay, some will leave, but enough to generate bigger player base.


Launching an MMO and grab player attention is really just make big news. SWTOR made big news with "most expensive MMO ever made" and got 1.7M sub at launch, just failed to keep players around. FFXIV successfully made it big by Yoshi-P's video, relaunch and 50+ full servers hard to log in. There's a reason why plenty of players from western market been wondering why this game is so popular, without providing any special gaming experience, and still more and more ppl wanted to try XIV.

FFXIV may or may not keep all the player after 1 year(from what I've seen, they have higher chance than SWTOR to keep players around though), but this launch is enough to make an impact in the industry, mostly due to successful marketing.

I really want to try FFXIV, I hardly have time to play FFXI with work and family most days. I know I can not play both. Might just sit back and wait for FFXI to die a little and FFXIV to stable out a bit before trying it out. From everything I read it sounds like it is a great game.

Edit: Forgot to add Yoshi-P's "Only less than 100 ppl on server can clear Binding coil of Bahamut before 2.1" claim. This guy, truly knows what hardcore MMORPG players want, and truly knows how to get their interest up and keep them around, since hardcore player base is too important for a MMO. He just knows how to run a successful MMORPG project, even though his final product may not please everyone. SWTOR won't fail this hard if Yoshi-P is their producer.

Adoulin added a good 2 years to the game's life if they consistently update it with new stuff like they have. Without Adoulin it would have gotten stale fast. I say maybe 3-4 years until it reaches EQ point where it's still around but just no longer relevant/exciting to play.

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I really don't think I'm strong enough

Power Creep; Look it up. The "Gear Level" System is the apotheosis of this problem.

This a pretty good way to explain the slow regression since the level caps were raised. The game mechanics just didn't keep up with the levels.

It sounds like they've addressed a lot of those issues since I quit, but it's only a matter of a few years before XI will either need a massive overhaul or will just slowly fade from relevance as newer MMO's with better battle systems and up-to-date coding are far more appealing. If there was a way to easily bring XI up to the current standards or port the general theme to a newer game, I'd have played forever.

They're addressing power creep with more power creep though. Eventually (Or perhaps already?) FFXI will turn into a worldspace that can no longer support new players at all, and without any new players coming in, the population will eventually drop below the level of sustainment. (Monetary)

FFXI is old though, and this isn't unexpected at all. It shouldn't speak to any level of incompetence on SE's part when designing the game, especially because Power creep needs to be addressed very early, even as early as Pre-production (See: League of Legends). If SE never really intended FFXI's lifespan to be this long, there's no way they could have justified the effort of implementing extensive power creep combatants.

I think by any metric, XI has been amazingly successful...when they started designing it, I bet they had no idea it would be going on this long. My own speculation is that they will keep it minimally staffed and updated until it finally isn't hitting the profit margin. I would think that the people who run the game would have an idea on when this will happen, but as to guessing on when ourselves? Who knows? XI had beaten the odds already, just enjoy it while you can.

The problem is very simple: there's nothing to do in this game. The only two events worth doing are delve and skirmish. Delve is only good for making money (once you have all the gear), and money is only good for buying skirmish augments. There's nothing else worth purchasing currently, which is, perhaps, the biggest issue precipitated by the lack of a REM update.

REM breathed some life into the game simply because they allowed you to accomplish something in your own time. They also gave you something to do, no matter how monotonous. Dynamis was boring as hell, but it at least gave me something to do, and something to work toward. Now, I have absolutely nothing to do in my free time. Salvage was actually enjoyable, but again, currently pointless.

While the ads have been abundant, you wouldn't believe how many people are blindly buying XIV because it's Final Fantasy. We have had so many people trying to return XIV not knowing it was an MMO and then those who did, not knowing it was subscription based.

As this goes, after it's 3-6 month run, I think we'll get an idea of what XI has left.

Game will last a while Draylo will be the only one left playing though.


Put it this way. If they game was a person it would be in a retirement home. Yes it is still alive but honestly it is extremely bored of playing bingo every Tuesday night.

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Nothing to do? Well if you played 6 to 8 hours a day for many years many games will run out of things to do. I came back last November after 4 years off and I got too much to do. I can't play that much but recently been playing a lot grinding out boss runs getting 70k plasms and I still need more plasm like 500k more plasm. Last night just done the stone + void watch fights I would like to finish cop but that's last on my to do list.

If u waiting for stuff to do the next update is coming soon with lowman event until then try to do things in real life or something.

Believe it or not people actually used to experience in parties shocking I know.

My problem with FFXI is that all of the pre-Adoulin content has been dumbed-down so that anyone can fly up to 99 and get decent gear without any trouble, in very little time. From that point on, the only real direction in the game comes from the Adoulin expansion - but everything in the expansion revolves around getting better gear than what you have. Once you have the gear you want, there isn't really anywhere outside of Adoulin worthy of using it. Everything else has become too easy and generally pointless.

I don't mean to sound like a doom-sayer, but it feels like FFXI is accelerating toward the end. I kind of get the feeling that with the SoA expansion, the constant stream of login campaigns etc, SE is trying to kill FFXI and get everyone to migrate over to FFXIV. The login campaign is probably SE's way of gauging how many people are still actively playing FFXI during the FFXIV launch.

I'm in total agreement. Give the REM upgrade, people will go back to dynamis. Dynamis was my free time killer and pocket change maker. Now the currency value is almost negligible. And upgrade salvage gear to lvl 100+. I swear.... I still can't understand why the hell they did double plan drop for so you could get the gear faster... Then make it totally turd worthy a month later? The entire reason I played for all those years was to have something to do. Now, all the stuff that was enjoyable is gone. There's only seekers, and that got old fast.

Edit: actually, the REM upgrade is pointless. It's just the fact that nothing outside of seekers is relevant. I can't remember the last time I went into aby. Haven't seen a promathia zone in ages. He'll, just sell seekers as a Standalone product and let me free 10gb on my hd..

we know the rem upgrade is coming

you get the same currency you always have(more really, since delve weapons)

the value of forgottens in relation to currency is much higher than ever before

so, why exactly aren't you doing relics if you love the timesink?

salvage campaign was added so people could more easily gear up for t6, it was outdated because nobody did it anyway and it still left most people incapable of doing t6 so they needed to add more powerful/easy-to-obtain gear