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 Carbuncle.Sevourn
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:13:00
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
who the *** would bid on a kidney for 1M? lol like really...i guess if you needed to save a loved one or something, but my god.. 1M? thats a lot of *** money


that's a pretty dumb question

if you had 1 mil+

and you needed a kidney to live

you'd pay 1 mil+ unless you were highly unusual
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 05:13:19
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
plan d auction off one of your kidneys
I think they are more like 40-60k. But the long term cost outweight what you get from them usually. Now if you sell someone elses...
i'm almost certain you would get closer to/more than a mil a guy tried to sell his kidney on ebay and the bidding was over a mil when the auction was yanked
Not many people would spend that much on an organ. But I was going by the prices from an article I read awhile back. It's fairly common in some asian countries since it's actually legal
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-09-06 05:13:57
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A kidney in a hospital sells for roughly 3000 dollars, why would anyone pay 333x that much?
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 05:14:18
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
who the *** would bid on a kidney for 1M? lol like really...i guess if you needed to save a loved one or something, but my god.. 1M? thats a lot of *** money
that's a pretty dumb question

if you had 1 mil+

and you needed a kidney to live

you'd pay 1 mil+ unless you were highly unusual
Nope. Cause I know I could get one for a fraction of the price lol.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-09-06 05:14:50
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Siren.Enternius said:
A kidney in a hospital sells for roughly 3000 dollars, why would anyone pay 333x that much?
Those kidneys are donated.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-06 05:15:27
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If i had a million dollars i'm pretty sure my awesome medical coverage would allow me to be high on the doner list without having to pay a full mil..... hence the question. I didn't think it was stupid
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:15:27
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Siren.Enternius said:
A kidney in a hospital sells for roughly 3000 dollars, why would anyone pay 333x that much?


i'm pretty certain it doesn't work that way

there are not as many free kidneys as people who need extra kidneys
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:16:57
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http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/03/us/auction-for-a-kidney-pops-up-on-ebay-s-site.html


$5,750,100



i'd be interested to see the source for your information, enternius
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 05:21:31
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Also it's not like the person donating them gets all the money
 
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-09-06 05:23:38
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Lakshmi.Mabrook said:
For $5,750,100 I'd sell my Kidney ina heartbeat, any word on what happened to the buyers?
They died due to kidney failure.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-09-06 05:23:56
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i'd be interested to see the source for your information, enternius




I'm a doctor.
 
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 05:24:22
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http://marketplace.publicradio.org/display/web/2006/07/20/human_kidneys_for_sale/
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:25:20
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Siren.Enternius said:
A kidney in a hospital sells for roughly 3000 dollars, why would anyone pay 333x that much?


http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6823WA20100903

you don't walk into a hospital and slap down 3000 bucks for a kidney

you wait for one while on dialysis for years and likely die while waiting
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:32:10
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if i had to guess

i'd say that if i had 5 mil to spend, i'd buy the "premium" kidney the guy advertised

as he said he had had it tested and could provide proof of its function

as opposed to a kidney from a starving female living in the slums a third world country

if G.I. Bill sev needed a kidney

he'd probably take the third world country route

though i imagine arranging the deal from a hospital bed while on dialysis could present some hurdles
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 05:39:15
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Oh it's actually pretty good out there. Like the do all the testing and have highly trained doctors and modern equipment. It's just cheaper like everything else out there lol.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:47:14
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Oh it's actually pretty good out there. Like the do all the testing and have highly trained doctors and modern equipment. It's just cheaper like everything else out there lol.

Organ selling is prohibited by international law, so, as with a lot of black markets, i'd imagine the quality varies

it also carries the risk of arrest, which, don't get me wrong, i'd certainly take if my life was on the line

http://reason.com/archives/2003/12/17/is-organ-bootlegging-inevitabl

also, from what i'm seeing, even buying a kidney this way is in the 100kish range

the 7500 figure appears to be what the donor is paid for the organ, not what the recipient pays for the entire operation after the middlemen and doctors have been paid

interesting reading though, that's to be sure
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-06 05:48:15
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man...this weather in Mire is really *** stingy with water/dark weathers :(
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 05:49:17
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If you read it can be less. Like on chick was supposed to sell. "She says typically the recipient will pay about $1,300 for a kidney. Of that, $1,000 is promised to the donor, though many times they only receive half. The rest is divided between the broker and the doctors. "
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-09-06 05:49:20
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
man...this weather in Mire is really *** stingy with water/dark weathers :(
Did you check before going out?
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-06 05:50:12
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yes..and the weather NPC was wrong on a few of the days and I've been out here longer than the 3 day forecast (NEVER mentioned thunder weather whatsoever and its popped the most)
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-06 05:52:29
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trying to get this slime trial done so i can start ice path for +4 potency
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-09-06 05:54:56
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
If you read it can be less. Like on chick was supposed to sell. "She says typically the recipient will pay about $1,300 for a kidney. Of that, $1,000 is promised to the donor, though many times they only receive half. The rest is divided between the broker and the doctors. "

i think this is where your quality would vary

i most certainly would not want my kidney installed by a doctor who was splitting 300 bucks with a kidney broker

i don't think those would be "highly trained doctors with modern equipment"
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-09-06 06:35:14
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This site is so strange...
I know AIM needs very little interwebs to work...but no other website nor MSN will sign in/load except this place. c.c
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2010-09-06 06:36:11
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6:30am, time for sleep. Night.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 06:45:45
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Fenrir.Stiklelf said:
6:30am, time for sleep. Night.
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By Hades.Eliane 2010-09-06 07:04:22
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
trying to get this slime trial done so i can start ice path for +4 potency

Find a level 40 sync and go Ranguemont pass. Constant Dark/Ice weather there and easy kills, 4 slimes there which repop pretty quickly, have to move between 2 spots using sneak or unsyncing, but thats not a bad price to pay for constant weather, i just finished that trial

Edit: morning
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-09-06 07:08:24
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Good afternoon Eli
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