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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-18 03:02:43
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Fenrir.Tool said:
What game is that Ent? Looks fun and creepy, do want.
Singularity. Great game so far actually, just came out last month.

The beginning was scary as hell, I almost took a break from this game to play Dead Space for a less scary atmosphere. But since then it has been a lot more action-y and stuff. Until I got to this part and ALMOST made it through this part successfully until that E99 plant alerted that Revert to my position and everything linked.
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By Caitsith.Judaine 2010-08-18 03:03:03
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Sylph.Ixe said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Windower is cheating, too. Big whoop.
True
But I dont like playing the 2X comp, pS2 and XBOX way
:3
I dont even have any adds to windower except chatmon XD

Heck, even using rocks, hills, flowers, etc. in FFXI to kite stuff around is considered cheating.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:04:02
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
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Cheater!! D:
and proud of it/gleefully announcing it since about 2 months after i started the game
lol to each their own :3
Hey I doubt you are 100% legit in your quad boxing!

At that point it's just where you stay this is enough cheating ( or tell yourself where it supposedly becomes cheating)


when a comapany has so little regard for your time

that they want you to kill 3250 mobs for a minor sword upgrade

i have a REALLY hard time feeling bad about it

i mean

does grinding through 3250 eps on a job i know how to play make me a better player? is it even remotely something you could call fun? what does doing it manually prove?

it's like the assembly line i worked on, except i pay them instead of vice-versa

i will forever shout to the amish i pass that it's okay to use a car to get to work
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By Sylph.Ixe 2010-08-18 03:04:58
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Siren.Enternius said:


It's super quiet for god-knows-why, and also kind of choppy, because I recorded it at max quality. But this part scared the crap out of me.
Omg I could NOT play that D:
I could watch it being played but it scares me ; ;
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-18 03:05:09
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Caitsith.Judaine said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Windower is cheating, too. Big whoop.
True
But I dont like playing the 2X comp, pS2 and XBOX way
:3
I dont even have any adds to windower except chatmon XD

Heck, even using rocks, hills, flowers, etc. in FFXI to kite stuff around is considered cheating.



Even GMs can't give you a real answer with a straight face as to what is okay and what isn't. I figure in a place where the rules are vague, QQ reports win without any sort of proof or investigation, why not cheat?
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:07:51
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Fenrir.Tool said:
Caitsith.Judaine said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Windower is cheating, too. Big whoop.
True
But I dont like playing the 2X comp, pS2 and XBOX way
:3
I dont even have any adds to windower except chatmon XD

Heck, even using rocks, hills, flowers, etc. in FFXI to kite stuff around is considered cheating.



Even GMs can't give you a real answer with a straight face as to what is okay and what isn't. I figure in a place where the rules are vague, QQ reports win without any sort of proof or investigation, why not cheat?

oh god i hate the people that pull that ***
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-08-18 03:08:01
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Sylph.Ixe said:
Siren.Enternius said:


It's super quiet for god-knows-why, and also kind of choppy, because I recorded it at max quality. But this part scared the crap out of me.
Omg I could NOT play that D:
I could watch it being played but it scares me ; ;
I was "Oh ***"ing in real life at 1:10 when I thought that Revert was coming straight for me.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-18 03:09:44
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Sylph.Ixe said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Cheater!! D:
and proud of it/gleefully announcing it since about 2 months after i started the game
lol to each their own :3
Hey I doubt you are 100% legit in your quad boxing!
I actually am Only thing I use is windower so I can alt tab through the screens :3
You could just used windowed mode if that's all you needed.

Btw it is against the rules to use/own someone elses account. Did you start all of those accounts yourself?
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-18 03:10:13
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Really upsets me when you read some of the *** stories on how people are punished for the most lame ***ever. Probably the worst was a friend messing around with another friend mutually by casting on his buddy while he was crafting, breaking his synth but I guess some bypasser caught glimpse of it and reported the crafter's friend and he got suspended/banned even though it was completely mutual and just a joke.

Long story short, QQ always wins, half the time GMs wont even investigate, they'll just believe whoever cries the loudest.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:11:59
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Cheater!! D:
and proud of it/gleefully announcing it since about 2 months after i started the game
lol to each their own :3
Hey I doubt you are 100% legit in your quad boxing!
I actually am Only thing I use is windower so I can alt tab through the screens :3
You could just used windowed mode if that's all you needed.

Btw it is against the rules to use/own someone elses account. Did you start all of those accounts yourself?

pretty sure you can't open multiple instances of pol with vanilla windower because MULTIBOXING IS THE DEVIL AND AGAINST TOS NUUUUUUU
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By Caitsith.Judaine 2010-08-18 03:12:36
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
Caitsith.Judaine said:
Sylph.Ixe said:
Siren.Enternius said:
Windower is cheating, too. Big whoop.
True
But I dont like playing the 2X comp, pS2 and XBOX way
:3
I dont even have any adds to windower except chatmon XD

Heck, even using rocks, hills, flowers, etc. in FFXI to kite stuff around is considered cheating.



Even GMs can't give you a real answer with a straight face as to what is okay and what isn't. I figure in a place where the rules are vague, QQ reports win without any sort of proof or investigation, why not cheat?

oh god i hate the people that pull that ***

tl;dr version,

Most of the FFXI population uses some Cheat one way or another, some people get caught, some dont. Some people get sucky GM's, some don't.

Really at this point, it doesn't even matter whether or not someone cheats or doesn't, since way too many people already do.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:13:20
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Fenrir.Tool said:


Long story short, QQ always wins, half the time GMs wont even investigate, they'll just believe whoever cries the loudest.


hmmmmmmmm

reminds me of some website

i just can't quite remember which one
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-18 03:14:29
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Well since they got rid of the Terms of service and sorta replaced them with the user agreements there are actually very few game related things called out as bannable...

Which means at the end of the day most of that is up to a GMs discretion. Which of course will depend on the GM and how well you present your case and how they are feeling that day.

It's like grading an english paper... it's very subjective
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By Caitsith.Judaine 2010-08-18 03:14:37
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Tool said:


Long story short, QQ always wins, half the time GMs wont even investigate, they'll just believe whoever cries the loudest.


hmmmmmmmm

reminds me of some website

i just can't quite remember which one

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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-18 03:15:03
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Fenrir.Tool said:
Long story short, QQ always wins, half the time GMs wont even investigate, they'll just believe whoever cries the loudest.
hmmmmmmmm

reminds me of some website

i just can't quite remember which one
Lol sure does
 
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2010-08-18 03:17:11
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Its NOT a violation of ToS to abuse terrain?

This is news. I guess they had to turn a blind eye when everyone and their mother was doing VNMs by pinning.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-18 03:17:23
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Heh, touche Sev.
But yeah, I guess your only hope God forbid you get in trouble with a GM is to remain professional and straightforward with your case, and hope they are in a good mood.
Perhaps you should offer them some coffee or a therapeutic massage.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:17:40
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Well since they got rid of the Terms of service and sorta replaced them with the user agreements there are actually very few game related things called out as bannable...

Which means at the end of the day most of that is up to a GMs discretion. Which of course will depend on the GM and how well you present your case and how they are feeling that day.

It's like grading an english paper... it's very subjective


very true

with the exception of doing the three things i'm aware of that get you bot-banned(ironic, huh)

it's kinda hard to explain yourself to the little automatic gm with the "Readme" above his head ;_;
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-08-18 03:18:52
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Fenrir.Tool said:
What game is that Ent? Looks fun and creepy, do want.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singularity_%28video_game%29
I love these Soviet secret plan to rule the world.
kind of games.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-18 03:19:01
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I actually have a pdf document showing the guidelines, red tape and conditions GMs have to follow for virtually every case. After skimming through it, I have come to the conclusion that being a GM really really really sucks.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-08-18 03:19:24
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I are slow.
 
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-18 03:20:41
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Diabolos.Raelia said:
Its NOT a violation of ToS to abuse terrain? This is news. I guess they had to turn a blind eye when everyone and their mother was doing VNMs by pinning.
It was. But they got rid of the TOS a few years back and replaced it with user agreements and general GM guidelines (which most of us don't have access too or shouldn't)
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:20:59
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Fenrir.Tool said:
I actually have a pdf document showing the guidelines, red tape and conditions GMs have to follow for virtually every case. After skimming through it, I have come to the conclusion that being a GM really really really sucks.


the ones leaked by rustymetal?

yeah, those have been really helpful

free hint: if you're botting, don't leave your character in a zone for more than 18 hours!
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-08-18 03:21:08
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Asura.Bartimaeus said:
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I actually have a pdf document showing the guidelines, red tape and conditions GMs have to follow for virtually every case. After skimming through it, I have come to the conclusion that being a GM really really really sucks.

The one from 2006? It's been updated, but not a lot. Still pretty lolsy.

Yeah I think it's a little on the old side. Like when WotG just came out or just before that.

But even just glancing through it, it was like reading a really lame math formula to decide what to do with a situation that has many variables.

But I did learn that "holding" is perfectly legal for about... 15 minutes or so? But most worthwhile NMs rage anyways.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2010-08-18 03:22:04
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:

free hint: if you're botting, don't leave your character in a zone for more than 18 hours!
Gotta run to the npc/ah sooner or later right?
 
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-08-18 03:23:39
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
free hint: if you're botting, don't leave your character in a zone for more than 18 hours!
Yeah then even I'd report you. I mean bot ok whatever as long as it doesn't affect me. But if you do it in a way that is blatant and might make them look my way (weather I bot or not) is too much.... like if you stay at a fishing hole for a full week fishing till fatigue then stopping then starting up again exactly at jp midnight... or getting a monster and letting it kill you over the course of 10 min and then not accepting the R3 the fairy gives you
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-08-18 03:24:23
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
Carbuncle.Sevourn said:

free hint: if you're botting, don't leave your character in a zone for more than 18 hours!
Gotta run to the npc/ah sooner or later right?


the problem comes when you, say, bot magian trials for a couple hours

turn your bot off and go to sleep but leave your character logged on in the same spot

restart your bot the next morning

your character's zone timer may very well be greater than 18 hours, even though you haven't been actively botting 18 hours
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