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By Siren.Miayoko 2010-07-25 07:40:45
Not going to XIV more than likey. I don't have a PC that can support it. I don't own a PS3. And, I have more important things to worry about then selling my soul to SE for another 5 years.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-25 07:56:46
Well heres the thing
This has subtle blow...alot. Very important for all the tp you will be feeding.
Has almost double the dmg of the 2-3 dagger or the low dmg OAT. Both good OAT and 2-3 require thousands of mob kills and NMs. Good OAT requires hard to get stuff while auric is easy 1 NM kill.
Auric has less delay to begin with. Also on a dnc with suppa the enhance DW alone increases attack speed by 8%.
Also auric helps your overall attack speed ie both hands. OAT/2-3 only helps off hand. And OAT/2-3 loses value in the presence of double/triple attack (part of the reason that any dagger on the market will beat joy toy even with capped acc on swd with saber dance up)
Also there is nothing to stop you from mainhanding auric and offhanding a trial dagger
There is something that would stop you from using 2 trial daggers that attack multiple times though
Also consistency.
I haven't really done the math on tp gain since there is a bit of variables but it goes way up as effective delay goes down. So I'd use it on thf even
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 08:00:17
The only real benefit I can see is the fact that you give the mob less TP than a multi-attacking dagger.
Remember how, in endgame events, everyone carefully coordinates things with tanks and healers to ensure mobs never gain enough TP to WS, with a MNK rotation and DRKs spamming Absorb TP?
Exactly, no one cares about TP fed, ever.
Dual Wield lowers TP gain per hit also, so it's a double-edged sword. Sure, the benefits outweigh the detriments by a lot but you gain TP much faster just offhanding a Mercurial Kris either way.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-25 08:07:55
Oh I know. But at lower delays like that tp/per hit barely goes down at all.
Also Mkris is litterally 1/4 the dmg of this lol.
It sorta depends on support and what you are doing. But if you have something like double attack roll or saber dance and to a lesser extent full triple attack going on multihit weapons just kinda start failing compared to normal weapons. Even in tp gain not counting actual dps.
And well thf is much more concerned about dps and dnc... well they make rediculous amounts of tp as is anyways
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 08:16:32
Whatever way you look at it, offhand weapons are designed to gain TP faster, and Mercurial Kris is infinitely better for that. Even with all things considered, Auric Dagger has higher delay than Blau Dolch. Granted, it's practically as good as Mandau...But there are better daggers either way you look at it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-07-25 08:20:53
The question I've been wondering is, at what point does the low damage on MK start causing hits for 0?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 08:22:17
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: The question I've been wondering is, at what point does the low damage on MK start causing hits for 0? I think you have to have something like 50 less STR than your target's VIT. Meaning if you have 0 STR gear while TPing, your target has to be roughly 30 levels above you? Something like that, I'm sure it's more now that level cap is increased.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-07-25 08:22:54
Siren.Enternius said: Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: The question I've been wondering is, at what point does the low damage on MK start causing hits for 0? I think you have to have something like 50 less STR than your target's VIT. Meaning if you have 0 STR gear while TPing, your target has to be roughly 30 levels above you? Something like that, I'm sure it's more now that level cap is increased.
Oh, so that's not really a concern?
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 08:23:42
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: Siren.Enternius said: Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: The question I've been wondering is, at what point does the low damage on MK start causing hits for 0? I think you have to have something like 50 less STR than your target's VIT. Meaning if you have 0 STR gear while TPing, your target has to be roughly 30 levels above you? Something like that, I'm sure it's more now that level cap is increased.
Oh, so that's not really a concern? Not usually, no. Even with a 1-DMG weapon, you can still cause damage to merit mobs.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-25 08:31:50
Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: Siren.Enternius said: Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra said: The question I've been wondering is, at what point does the low damage on MK start causing hits for 0? I think you have to have something like 50 less STR than your target's VIT. Meaning if you have 0 STR gear while TPing, your target has to be roughly 30 levels above you? Something like that, I'm sure it's more now that level cap is increased. Oh, so that's not really a concern? Well it actually being such a low rank weapon fstr low caps at only -1. So from -14dstr to 1million dstr it still hits at 7 base dmg.
To make you hit 0 from just def/lvl difference you would need a pdif of less than .1428... yeah you'd pretty much have to be hitting a lvl 90+ mob with no attack buffs and no -def debuffs on it. In which case even high dmg weapons can hit for 0
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By Quetzalcoatl.Sectumsempra 2010-07-25 08:40:16
Ah, I see.
Meanwhile, thank you SE for making abyssea mobs have relatively high EVA. <3 <3 <3
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By Ramuh.Chuuuuu 2010-07-25 08:45:25
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-25 09:27:45
Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: pew pew pew I'll pew pew you
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By Ramuh.Chuuuuu 2010-07-25 09:40:17
Ramuh.Dasva said: Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: pew pew pew I'll pew pew you ill pew pew you first
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By Bismarck.Chasuro 2010-07-25 10:30:58
Siren.Enternius said: Can I ask how many of you guys plan to play FFXIV?
My laptop won't play the beta so unless I buy a new computer I won't be playing FFXIV.
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By Ramuh.Mairah 2010-07-25 10:34:27
Bismarck.Chasuro said: Siren.Enternius said: Can I ask how many of you guys plan to play FFXIV?
My laptop won't play the beta so unless I buy a new computer I won't be playing FFXIV.
I plan on playing it! but I dunno if my computer will run it or not.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2010-07-25 10:36:09
Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: pew pew pew
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-07-25 10:36:23
Bismarck.Chasuro said: Siren.Enternius said: Can I ask how many of you guys plan to play FFXIV?
My laptop won't play the beta so unless I buy a new computer I won't be playing FFXIV.
I kinda of want to buy a new pc, but I don't know how much I really need one. Or how much I need/want to be playing games
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By Ramuh.Chuuuuu 2010-07-25 10:37:57
Ramuh.Haseyo said: Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: pew pew pew
 CUTE /squeezes bunny Ramuh.Mairah said: Bismarck.Chasuro said: Siren.Enternius said: Can I ask how many of you guys plan to play FFXIV?
My laptop won't play the beta so unless I buy a new computer I won't be playing FFXIV.
I plan on playing it! but I dunno if my computer will run it or not. i gotta start saving for a desktop D: my laptop overheats with 11 if im multitasking lol
By Randomguy 2010-07-25 10:38:58
Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: pew pew pew
 CUTE /squeezes bunny /bunny explodes...
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By Ramuh.Mairah 2010-07-25 10:41:34
Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: Ramuh.Haseyo said: Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: pew pew pew
 CUTE /squeezes bunny Ramuh.Mairah said: Bismarck.Chasuro said: Siren.Enternius said: Can I ask how many of you guys plan to play FFXIV?
My laptop won't play the beta so unless I buy a new computer I won't be playing FFXIV.
I plan on playing it! but I dunno if my computer will run it or not. i gotta start saving for a desktop D: my laptop overheats with 11 if im multitasking lol
Well, I got my laptop this year prolly March or so and it only gets to like 1150 ish on the benchmark. When I bought it, it was the best laptop they had in the store x.x
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By Hades.Cheyne 2010-07-25 10:43:18
/yawn
Good morning Mr. Cute Bunny o:
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By Ramuh.Chuuuuu 2010-07-25 10:43:34
Ramuh.Mairah said:
Well, I got my laptop this year prolly March or so and it only gets to like 1150 ish on the benchmark. When I bought it, it was the best laptop they had in the store x.x
it doesnt over heat? D: mine sucks lol and bah time for 4 hour shift :P brb
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 10:44:20
1150 will probably run about 20 FPS on fullscreen at lower resolutions, but it WILL run it. The benchmark they released is only in windowed mode (Which will lag on almost any computer), Zicdeh made a good point in another thread, if you get above 1500 you'll be able to run low resolution in full screen without any problems. My current laptop got 2700 and I was thinking about getting a new one, but a score of 3000 should technically run High resolution without any graphical hitches, so I should be fine.
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By Ramuh.Mairah 2010-07-25 10:44:20
Ramuh.Chuuuuu said: Ramuh.Mairah said:
Well, I got my laptop this year prolly March or so and it only gets to like 1150 ish on the benchmark. When I bought it, it was the best laptop they had in the store x.x
it doesnt over heat? D: mine sucks lol and bah time for 4 hour shift :P brb
Mine doesn't overheat. Ever lol. I can play games for hours on end.
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By Phoenix.Darki 2010-07-25 10:49:40
i don't see any small ventilation windows on my mac for the drivers.
it doesnt over heat either, just gets a little hott sometimes.
what will happen when im running a billion programs...
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2010-07-25 10:50:07
I don't really understand that benchmark.
I have a 2.4ghz quad core and I barely got good enough on the benchmark. The PS3 which this should work on is a 3.2ghz single core...
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 10:51:07
Again, the benchmark only ran in windowed mode, which hits your frame rate pretty hard no matter how good it is. Going to have to wait until they release a windowed version.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2010-07-25 10:51:48
Phoenix.Darki said: i don't see any small ventilation windows on my mac for the drivers. it doesnt over heat either, just gets a little hott sometimes. what will happen when im running a billion programs...
Puerto Rico doesn't have Mac.
This isn't a Mac.
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By Siren.Enternius 2010-07-25 10:51:54
Phoenix.Darki said: i don't see any small ventilation windows on my mac for the drivers.
it doesnt over heat either, just gets a little hott sometimes.
what will happen when im running a billion programs... Not like Mac can play games anyway, so you'll be fine.
Edit: As of 2010-10-05 14:48:06 CST, Ni reached 10,000 pages.
Since we all can't be on the same linkshell in game, this can be our cross server linkshell thread.
Like most linkshells, it can be pretty dead at times. Other times it's full of intense conversations about either rl, gear, goals, pokemon or anything else you want to contribute.
We can cover any sort of topic at all, within reason of the forum rules. No real main topic, just a bunch of FFXIAH friends/people coming on and discussing random things.
http://www.nationstates.net/nation=royal_kingdom_of_ni
Continuation from: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/2873/ffxiah-linkshell/732/#150486
Update: Sorry Eternaltriumph, too much has changed D: (Page 698)
Eternaltriumph said: Yeah Chuu. Bringing you up to speed, Ludoggy is the LS pedophile. I'm the fountain of random and useless knowledge that makes you go "Hrm" with the occasional side of "holy shit he said what?"
Kungfu is the LS nutjob, spouting super random things that are usually sexist, until Savvy or Alyria comes into the room. Then he's a classic case of sexual harrassment. Rumaha is also true to the second part; we're wondering about his sexuality though.
Daj is Ludoggy's gay lover. Not much else is known about this Asuran. Tairo is kinda new, but since is a female and Alyria's lesbian lover, she fit right in real quick.
Celene(F) and Rowland(M) are more of the shyer members, but often say things that are witty, have a good pun and sometimes cause three page discussions. Celene hates when people hit on her. It doesn't stop them from trying.
Krizz is just social and likes to kill time here during work Tbest is about the same, except tends to be a douche to guys and affectionate toward girls.
Alyria is the most social female, gets groped a lot without provoking it by others, and Tairo ends up stabbing people for it. Cai is just a barrel of lols, I might be gay for him. If I wasn't straight.
Not sure about Citag, s/he's new. Kiriyu is just an in-out kinda person. Says one thing every three days that every guy makes a big fuss over. Ludoggy gets really defensive since she's asian and underage (might be 18 now).
Artem is the wayward soul that makes you ponder the meaning of life by constantly reminding us life can suck. But he deals, and so do we. About the same for Savannah, except people are more "AWH!" to her because of a vagina involved.
Dasva is the ex military man (as is Krizz but this doesn't apply to him) who hates the world and plots a way to destroy most of it.
Number2 is kinda like a mix between Cai and I; never bashes, likes to laugh and has odd avatars. His current suits a lot of the convos this LS gets into. Barti is most well known for his moustache. He gives mousatche rides for a fee. I'm missing a few people but whatever. CARRY ON!
Luelle Smells.
Roster of FFXIAH Ni (as of April 1st, 2010 Pocoyo avatar craze)
One Year Anniversary!!!Asura.Ludoggy said: Happy b-day ls.
Heres my lame gift to AHLS, since Row is lame and took away the OP, I made my own!
Haseyo/Bignose: He's got a bigass nose, Leader of the RL avi revloution or some junk no one gives a crap about...crazy about his asian pop/rock bands and is a closet pedo. AKA LAME
Dameshi: wont level his sam sub and is a lolblu, LAME
Citag: Doesnt put out, Really lame
Dasva: Uses Chu as a cover up for his desire for me greased up and naked on his bed, Lame.
Rydiya/Bra+Panties: Secret lesbien, doesnt wear bra+panties, like to knit and other old people stuff (bingo)
Pikachu/Chu: Hi Chu, I love chu
Kryee/Socks: Noms on socks, wears the sam red pair everyday and frequently sniffs her arm pits.
Cheyne: Domo origoto, Mr Roboto...I think he's gay.
Urial: SOCCER IS LAME AND YOU'RE LAME.
Thundars: LOLCANADIAN
Spence: LOLFRENCHCANADIAN
Enterius/ghost: He's a ghost...he'll say something witty to me later.
Ixe: Ducky face and cant seem to get a straw in her mouth (can get other things in there though)
Mairah: She cool...lame
Bart: Full times OPO-OPO, free mustache rides otherwise LAME
Sav/Mango: Field trips, yay!
Aly/thatgreenmodthatwillbanmeifIsayanythingbad: *tapes*
Woody: You're not Italian...no tea for you.
Sectum: My apprentice...loves asian girls, loves to cook...he's awesome. put me in a story where I wasnt a pedo and that'd cool
Rum:STOP RAIDING MY BASEMENT AND TAKING AWAY MY GIRLS GAWD. Long Islander...lame
Valencea:Wont tell me the color of her undies, you lost the bet...no we cant get married...NO MEANS NO
Kojo:Open pedo...he likes scat, ewww
Tohsou: I think he's a pedo with a girlfriend as cover up, lame.
Kiriyu/strawberry: Lurk Less post moar! I see you what you are doing!
Krizz: Mohawk guy #1
Triet: Mohawk guy #1...wait
Bloodbathboy: The Hulk
Kungfuhustle: AH%DUE%$JNSRGHSRHHEYHEHSA Y%HEDHGSR EAT AHUYY DONKEY NUTS
Celene: Quit...Canadian...who the hell quits?
Tbest: MIA
Eternaltriumph: Where the hell has he been? Is he gone cause he got pussywhipped or something? Whatever...
#2: GOD...I miss him /cry
Luelle/otherlu: The Other Lu.
Zekky: Quit, kicking ass, raped me :\
Krystale/Girlwithpiercing: Magnets stick to her, Toke Canadian, hawt...she's 15 right?
Marzbarz: NINJA
Rowland: All your Pocoyo are belong to...him
Weewoo/Tool: He liked Asura and wont admit it.
Miemo: Has a mithra avi c.c
Kalyna: is a girl right? right? oh...lame
Gimmeurselables: TOO MUCH BOUNCE...TOO BIG, EWWWW
Sagittario: Lame elf whu runs around in a diaper subligar
Ludoggy: Faggot
Edit: The Family Ni Tree

Luelle's (And Citag's too!) birthday present

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