Also, unless all you are doing is Med or sleeping TP and WSing Cerb +1 will never beat E.Bow, because RNG isn't SAM :o
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yea Wooo that's what I was saying :o
I am unsure exactly what 2 Base Dmg 1 Agi 1 Ratk would add compared to 3 Str, but I may be underestimating base Dmg.
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Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Also, unless all you are doing is Med or sleeping TP and WSing Cerb 1 will never beat E.Bow, because RNG isn't SAM :o
Who does that anyway, RNG's arrow for arrow damage is as part of the job as it's WSs are. Only time RNG's should be sleeping or meditating TP is when using Heavy Shells and Culverins imo.
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Actually there are at least 2 maybe 3 depending on what you consider better. This can get augments on it like I discussed... anything with dmg str racc/ratt -delay store tp agi etc. will make it better and I have seen it with 2 dmg on it Eurytos' Bow This is about the same Item Not Found! higher ws dmg though slightly lower dps but can also be augmented to be better. And of course this is clearly better Yoichinoyumi Also some of the fey augments have been pretty damn good too
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Im pretty sure Cerb 1 would only be able to match E bow in WS, and RNG isn't about the WS like SAM is, 2 base DMG 1 Ratk 1 Agi but Ebow has 3 STR, id say that's about even.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Im pretty sure Cerb 1 would only be able to match E bow in WS, and RNG isn't about the WS like SAM is, 2 base DMG 1 Ratk 1 Agi but Ebow has 3 STR, id say that's about even.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Also, unless all you are doing is Med or sleeping TP and WSing Cerb 1 will never beat E.Bow, because RNG isn't SAM :o
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yea Wooo that's what I was saying :o
I am unsure exactly what 2 Base Dmg 1 Agi 1 Ratk would add compared to 3 Str, but I may be underestimating base Dmg.
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yea Wooo that's what I was saying :o
I am unsure exactly what 2 Base Dmg 1 Agi 1 Ratk would add compared to 3 Str, but I may be underestimating base Dmg.
I quoted the wrong post lol.
Ramuh.Dasva said:
That is exactly the point... making it better.
I'm confused now, I don't know which side you're on!
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Well it would be better for ws. 2 base dmg beats 3 str on sidewinder even if your not hitting fstr2 caps. Though to be honest on say colibri fstr2 cap is like only 127 str for that bow... I'm not a 75 rng yet but that doesn't sound too hard to get to. And gdi with all this only sam can be about the ws garbage!!!
It would be better for TPing if the delay was the same, 2 dmg is indeed > 3 str, but that delay is a pretty significant increase. In the space of a minute using the two bows you can fire practically twenty more arrows than you can on Cerb bow, and 2 base dmg won't add enough extra damage to attacks to compenstate for that, even more so with buffs (minuets, etc)
If you can't afford a Eurytos and can't be bothered to camp Vali's it's probably the next best alternative imo. Fey Gendawa is too unreliable atm to properly rank it up there. I'm yet to see any combination of augments that makes it better than E/VBow.
What I need you to do, is quote me saying(outside of right now) "Only SAM can be about the WS"
Then, show me another job that is 30 70 DoT WS dmg, which is what I was saying, they don't try to do all their DMG by WSing like SAM does so Cerb +1 doing heavier WS dmg is null and void.
Then, show me another job that is 30 70 DoT WS dmg, which is what I was saying, they don't try to do all their DMG by WSing like SAM does so Cerb +1 doing heavier WS dmg is null and void.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Only SAM can be about the WS
amidoinitrite
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Only SAM can be about the WS
amidoinitrite
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
(outside of right now)
You're in fact doing it wrong my good sir.
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But I lol'd.
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
Garuda.Kyree said:
It's safe to say my TH4 sucks, on my main and mule. Although I landed bounding boots after 40ish kills of LL with my mules TH. I have bad luck on some NMs..
Meh, you were never a THF in my eyes anyway. Once a RDM, always a RDM!
I don't know why I defend Vali's Bow so much anyway, I use one of these and in 9k Byne Bill's time one of these. :]
Only initial reason was because I was 8/8 Marks from COR and 0/8 Archery... And of course hitting 75 RNG is all about the "OMG POWERRRRRR" power trip, so I stuck with guns. Turns out it's better than bows anyway generally, barring a few special circumstances (like a Kraken Vali's or Yoichi RNG)
Only initial reason was because I was 8/8 Marks from COR and 0/8 Archery... And of course hitting 75 RNG is all about the "OMG POWERRRRRR" power trip, so I stuck with guns. Turns out it's better than bows anyway generally, barring a few special circumstances (like a Kraken Vali's or Yoichi RNG)
Garuda.Kyree said:
I love you too
Screenshotted that in case you deny it later. <3
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
You're in fact doing it wrong my good sir.
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But I lol'd.
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But I lol'd.
My work here is done then. :D
Totally diggin' this new black eyed peas song!
Wooooodum what do you typically sub on Cor?
Question,
Kraken Yoichinoyumi
Kraken Annihilator
What is actually better? ;o
Kraken Yoichinoyumi
Kraken Annihilator
What is actually better? ;o
Usually /RNG but I can get away with /WAR on some NMs. /NIN in Dynamis since I do all the pulling.
Kraken Annihilator! Probably the most unstoppable job in the game! Especially as they procure much less enmity on their WS than any other job. I remember doing Jailer of Love and we had an Annihilator Ranger there... Was literally spamming Coronach for 2k+ and didn't pull hate once... WANT
Kraken Annihilator! Probably the most unstoppable job in the game! Especially as they procure much less enmity on their WS than any other job. I remember doing Jailer of Love and we had an Annihilator Ranger there... Was literally spamming Coronach for 2k+ and didn't pull hate once... WANT
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
Garuda.Kyree said:
I love you too
Screenshotted that in case you deny it later.
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
Usually /RNG but I can get away with /WAR on some NMs. /NIN in Dynamis since I do all the pulling.
Kraken Annihilator! Probably the most unstoppable job in the game! Especially as they procure much less enmity on their WS than any other job. I remember doing Jailer of Love and we had an Annihilator Ranger there... Was literally spamming Coronach for 2k and didn't pull hate once... WANT
Kraken Annihilator! Probably the most unstoppable job in the game! Especially as they procure much less enmity on their WS than any other job. I remember doing Jailer of Love and we had an Annihilator Ranger there... Was literally spamming Coronach for 2k and didn't pull hate once... WANT
Yea but Namas has like no enm from the WS itself too :o
And it boosts Racc :o Which seems kind of redundant lol
Namas Arrow produces the same amount of enmity as it normally would, doesn't have an enmity- effect like Coronach (which is -20 enm). That and the base damage difference between Silver Bullets and Kabura Arrows is 43, which is very significant in terms of damage output. That's the main reason Guns > Bows for most RNGs. The biggest difference is delay, but since you're using Kraken to get TP that's not a problem.
When you're shooting for TP, Annihilator still wins seemingly, but I'd prefer to test that myself as there's no clear evidence. Will be awhile before I have both relics though. =\
When you're shooting for TP, Annihilator still wins seemingly, but I'd prefer to test that myself as there's no clear evidence. Will be awhile before I have both relics though. =\
Well I mean Namas produces like 160 CE / 480 VE no matter what the DMG is , which is in fact twice was Coronach cuz I looked it up so I am just going to keep typing randomly in this post till it fades out...
http://kanican.livejournal.com/18316.html
http://kanican.livejournal.com/18316.html
I have the filter on but I still get RMT tells ._.
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Well I mean Namas produces like 160 CE / 480 VE no matter what the DMG is , which is in fact twice was Coronach cuz I looked it up so I am just going to keep typing randomly in this post till it fades out...
So basically, what you were saying is Namas act... Hey where'd your post go? It, like, just vanished. O_o
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
Bahamut.Rumaha said:
Well I mean Namas produces like 160 CE / 480 VE no matter what the DMG is , which is in fact twice was Coronach cuz I looked it up so I am just going to keep typing randomly in this post till it fades out...
So basically, what you were saying is Namas act... Hey where'd your post go? It, like, just vanished. O_o
Omg I lol'd hard...
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http://kanican.livejournal.com/18316.html
Again It's what it says.
I have a funny story to share about Pixies.
My friend died soloing her BLU in Fort Karugo, and asked if I could go raise her since she didn't have reraise and it was a long walk back to camp. I gear up BLM, retrace myself, run all the way to her dead body, which took me about fifteen minutes to find.
Literally just as I get to her corpse, a Pixie appears and starts casting Raise 3. I thought "*** that, you're not wasting my time" and Stun'd the Pixie, and then killed it. Afterwards I R1'd my friend.
</3 Pixies
My friend died soloing her BLU in Fort Karugo, and asked if I could go raise her since she didn't have reraise and it was a long walk back to camp. I gear up BLM, retrace myself, run all the way to her dead body, which took me about fifteen minutes to find.
Literally just as I get to her corpse, a Pixie appears and starts casting Raise 3. I thought "*** that, you're not wasting my time" and Stun'd the Pixie, and then killed it. Afterwards I R1'd my friend.
</3 Pixies
Hate control? *** HATE CONTROL!
Its all about getting a big e-peen number!
When you take a SS of a big number they dont see you die after anyway.
Its all about getting a big e-peen number!
When you take a SS of a big number they dont see you die after anyway.
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Hate control? *** HATE CONTROL!
Its all about getting a big e-peen number!
When you take a SS of a big number they dont see you die after anyway.
Its all about getting a big e-peen number!
When you take a SS of a big number they dont see you die after anyway.
*nods in agreement*
I died, but how do YOU know that =D
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Hate control? *** HATE CONTROL!
Its all about getting a big e-peen number!
When you take a SS of a big number they dont see you die after anyway.
Its all about getting a big e-peen number!
When you take a SS of a big number they dont see you die after anyway.
I found that as a good read as a PLD,
You mean like this? lol I laugh now cuz I never noticed she asked my to Gekko, well I did :o Also Seigan TE Fail + Para = fail x2
How is your Final Fantasy XI window so pretty? :o
Also, Paint is open, YOU MUST BE FAKING THAT PICTURE OR SOMETHING CAUSE WHY ELSE IS PAINT OPEN
Also, Paint is open, YOU MUST BE FAKING THAT PICTURE OR SOMETHING CAUSE WHY ELSE IS PAINT OPEN
Garuda.Wooooodum said:
How is your Final Fantasy XI window so pretty? :o
Also, Paint is open, YOU MUST BE FAKING THAT PICTURE OR SOMETHING CAUSE WHY ELSE IS PAINT OPEN
Also, Paint is open, YOU MUST BE FAKING THAT PICTURE OR SOMETHING CAUSE WHY ELSE IS PAINT OPEN
Im on vista, I changed my theme to Red, Paint is open cuz I pasted it right after that lol.
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