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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-25 17:36:02
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lolol Gogo 38 whm Because whm = rdm Btw I deleted posts because Dasva doesn't like to listen just yap. Help me get this fishbot working Das.

I don't know anything about programming... actually I'm the only one here who has brought really numbers and testing into it...

Kanican cure related emnity testing and numbers that no one wants to pay attention to said:
This set comes to a total of -60 Enmity reduction with merits. You can get up to a maximum of -71 without food I think but it starts to get pretty difficult. I'll admit this seems incredibly overboard since there are places where I'm devoting a item slot for only -2 enmity, but I'll give 2 big reasons why this is so important. I'm not going to show the sets for Buffs, but it's basically the same thing with more focus on Haste Gear (Stoneskin would focus a bit on capping MND as well).

Scholar is an incredibly MP efficient healer and buffer in Light Arts. In addition, Scholar lacks the 2 major "buff spells" - Haste and Refresh, and does not have to spend MP to constantly maintain these on tanks and melee. This allows Scholar to completely focus on AoE buffs, Status Cures, and Cures. Because of it's MP efficiency, the limiting factor to a Scholar's play as a backline support generally is NOT MP, but enmity! A very good Enmity build on Scholar in Light Arts directly adds to its efficiency as a support player.

In addition, there are 2 very key things to note about Scholar which I'll go over separately.

1) Accession grants up to 6x the amount of hate a normal buff or cure would give.

This is a huge problem on certain buffs. The most common Accession buff is Stoneskin, which provides 300 VE. A full 6 player Accession Stoneskin grants the Scholar 300 VE x 6 or 1800 VE... Same as Provoke, ,you can see how this gets nasty. Other buffs like Phalanx, all -na spells, and Enspells provide 1800 VE as well. Erase is especially bad at 480 VE a target... that can potentially be a 2880 VE cast for a 6 player erase-ga. While Accession is an incredibly powerful Scholar ability, the hate potential it provides is extremely large and needs to be compensated for.


2) Scholars do not have access to Cure V or much Cure Potency Gear.

Most WHMs don't really focus on a huge enmity reduction set on their cures, which is OK in my opinion. This has a great deal to do with the fact that WHMs have tremendous access to a good variety of cure potency gear like Rondel Earring, Nobles Tunic, etc. which would be better than stacking enmity gear. Also, WHMs typcially use Cure V for large cures for both the insane single target cure of 800+ as well as the stable, generally low enmity it provides (static 400 CE, 700 VE). A Scholar attempting to heal large quantities cannot access Cure V and must use Cure III or IV, which follow the Cure Formula. This leads to significantly higher VE production... for instance, a Rapture Cure IV for 646 HP grants a whopping 470 CE / 2819 VE, while a Cure V is still the static 400 CE / 700 VE.
Prior to having extended time playing Scholar as a healer, I was not a huge fan of enmity reduction stacking. I came to use this build more out of trial and error and just finding myself getting hate way too quickly. Scholar in Light Arts has tremendous MP efficiency and curing power with Rapture / Accession usage. The thing that generally held me back in these situations has been hate.
Prior to having extended time playing Scholar as a healer, I was not a huge fan of enmity reduction stacking. I came to use this build more out of trial and error and just finding myself getting hate way too quickly. Scholar in Light Arts has tremendous MP efficiency and curing power with Rapture / Accession usage. The thing that generally held me back in these situations has been hate.
The amount of Cumulative Enmity (CE) and Volatile Enmity (VE) generated by curing someone follows the 2 general formulas below.


[ CE ] = [ CE Modifier ] x [ HP Cured ]

[ VE ] = [ VE Modifier ] x [ HP Cured ]


* The [CE Modifier] and [VE Modifier] vary with the level of the target cured, not the level of the caster.

* Round all final values down.

* All Cures must produce at least 1 CE, even if the formula predicts 0.
The table below shows the modifiers at all levels; both simplified (rounded) and exact modifier values are given.

Target Level, CE Modifier (Simple), VE Modifer (Simple), CE Modifier (Exact), VE Modifier (Exact)
75, 0.727, 4.36, 40/55, 240/55

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CE VE Level MP Casting(sec)

Cure -- C -- -- C -- 1 8 2.00
Curaga -- C -- -- C -- 16 60 4.50
Cure III -- C -- -- C -- 21 46 2.50
Curaga II -- C -- -- C -- 31 120 4.75
Cure IV -- C -- -- C -- 41 88 2.50
Curaga III -- C -- -- C -- 51 180 5.00
Cure V 400 700 61 135 2.50
Curaga IV -- C -- -- C -- 71 260 5.25
 
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-25 17:39:58
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I see some pieces in there you contradicted just a minute ago. I should ask you if you read it.

Really where? Other than the fact he thinks whm might be better using potency specifically cause of cure5
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Cure=Cure
time to talk about Darkblue Hawaiian Punch >? LightBlue Hawaiian Punch?
 
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Yes. there is Polar blast (light) and Berry Blue Typhoon (dark)
but I like adding both of them to one cup.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-25 17:44:27
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Im eating McDonalds while lfp on THF. Oh yeah, is it possible to be "illegally blind"? I mean, there's being legally blind, but as it opposes to what exactly.
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Depends...what are you eatting?
 
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-10-25 17:46:12
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Den of Woe = serious *** business.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-25 17:46:53
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Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
No need to stack enm- on a whm, not aggressively at least. Again, your tanks have to be *** retards if you NEED that -enm. And unless you're "healing for an hour", I'd hope you're not spamming Cure V's over 3's...really.

Depends on the dmg taken... also CureV produces less VE then cure3.Unless you cure3 for less then 160... at which point you need to rethink your curing. And if your healing for a long time chances are you will get to the CE cap anyways unless you have some serious -emnity. Either way it is highly dependent on the enemy. Try doing soemthing that spams stuff that goes thru utsesmi for lots of dmg. The tanks wont stay at the CE cap if they ever reach it lol and all that curing will put you there quick. Yes normal fights who really cares that much a decent tank can get lots of emnity fast. But for those longer fights or ones you gotta do alot of AOE curing/status stuff it matters.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-25 17:48:31
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
Depends...what are you eatting?


Big Mac, nothing special. I was just hungry.
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Pandemonium.Poroggo said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Yes. there is Polar blast (light) and Berry Blue Typhoon (dark)
but I like adding both of them to one cup.


I'm an oldschool Kool-aid kid. Blue tastes like blue. If there's more than one blue, it's just madness. MADNESS I TELL YOU!

Its new ish.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2009-10-25 17:49:17
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Depends...what are you eatting?


Big Mac, nothing special. I was just hungry.

add any hot sauce? <.>
and I REALLY wanna try that 7 stack Windows 7 whopper.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2009-10-25 17:49:38
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I've always just had red coolaid. What is this blue nonsense!?
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-25 17:49:40
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Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
lolol Gogo 38 whm Because whm = rdm Btw I deleted posts because Dasva doesn't like to listen just yap. Help me get this fishbot working Das.

I don't know anything about programming... actually I'm the only one here who has brought really numbers and testing into it...

Kanican cure related emnity testing and numbers that no one wants to pay attention to said:
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YOUR MOTHER!!!
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-25 17:50:37
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:
Depends...what are you eatting?


Big Mac, nothing special. I was just hungry.

add any hot sauce? <.>
and I REALLY wanna try that 7 stack Windows 7 whopper.


Im still eatin te fries, when I get to it, I have jalopeno hot sauce to put on it.
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By Ramuh.Dasva 2009-10-25 17:51:18
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
lolol Gogo 38 whm Because whm = rdm Btw I deleted posts because Dasva doesn't like to listen just yap. Help me get this fishbot working Das.
I don't know anything about programming... actually I'm the only one here who has brought really numbers and testing into it...
Kanican cure related emnity testing and numbers that no one wants to pay attention to said:
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YOUR MOTHER!!!

Had sex with yours I know. And its not as hot as it sounds
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My hot chicken and rice soup is boring now...
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-25 17:52:59
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Ramuh.Dasva said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Ramuh.Dasva said:
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lolol Gogo 38 whm Because whm = rdm Btw I deleted posts because Dasva doesn't like to listen just yap. Help me get this fishbot working Das.
I don't know anything about programming... actually I'm the only one here who has brought really numbers and testing into it...
Kanican cure related emnity testing and numbers that no one wants to pay attention to said:
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YOUR MOTHER!!!

Had sex with yours I know. And its not as hot as it sounds


you wouldn't know what sex was even if it gave you an orgasm through your prostate!
 
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2009-10-25 17:53:47
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Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
Asura.Ludoggy said:
My hot chicken and rice soup is boring now...


Want some coffee? ^^


coffee makes anything exciting

edit: how tiny is someone's balls that they go to peoples' profiles and downrates the comments?

I'm just curious.

another edit: you guys spelled EDITED wrong when someone edits their post.

fyi
 
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Pandemonium.Bartimaeus said:
If it makes you feel any better I rated up both on yours. What's with people rating down Sav's comments on multiple profiles anyway?


tiny balls?
 
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