Zimmerman Verdict In...

How does one dress like a thug?

FTFY. At least according to that hognosed *** Nancy Grace.

We already established multiple times that he was already suspicious of Trayvon before he even knew he was Black. If you want to argue that him being Black solidified his suspicion you are free to do so, but you have no proof of that, because he only mentioned race after that because the dispatch specifically asked him for it.

And as I already mentioned, the people that were seen in the area before when the area was burglarized were black. Does it make me "racist" to assume that the next time a burglary will take place in the area that I assume that a suspicious man being black probably increases my chances of having the right guy? Does it make me "racist" if I said a white guy has a higher chance of skin cancer or a black man has a higher chance of sickle cell? Come on. I don't deny that racism exists but it's annoying when people spot it in places where there's no real way of proving there is any...

Ah, so we are just being obtuse because we are mad about the acquittal now, aren't we? ;-)

Maybe that works in your fantasy world, but I deal in reality.

The Boy Who Cried Wolf... From all this nonsense you'd almost be fooled into thinking that racism was primarily white-on-black...

I love how you don't even attempt to answer the question and assume my position on this verdict just because I'm questioning you. I haven't stated whether I agree with the verdict or not and neither did I use any loaded language to support either side. Get over yourself.

Despite my distaste for rap music, Lupe Fiasco hit many of the points I share on Twitter.

Would you rather I ignore the rhetorical nature of your question and assume you are stupid enough to not know what thugs dress like?

Yes. I r stoopid enuf...

For every 10 celebrities whose comments showed that they are only qualified to entertain us at our whim, there was maybe 1 who offered real insight and wise perspective.

It's a well-documented fact that the South suffers from more incidents of racial violence against blacks. I'm not sure what there is to argue about there. I'm not saying that every white Southerner is a racist. I'm saying that racism against African-Americans is historically much higher in the South.


You have missed the point. If you were shot tomorrow and killed, you would expect that the person who shot you be charged appropriately. Zimmerman wasn't charged at all until the case went nationwide. Black, white, whatever, when one person is dead and the other person shot them, some heavy scrutiny is necessary.


What you're saying is morally/legally wrong. If you're in fear for your life or of grievous bodily harm, then you can discharge your firearm. Anything less is not a call to use deadly force. I was never convinced during the trial that Zimmerman was in the type of danger that required a lethal response.

Everyone that had been arrested for break ins in the area had been black.

That isn't to say every black person in the area is up to no good, but if 100% of the people being caught are black, I don't think its unfair to say you are then more suspicious of black people in the area.

Now, if more than 50% of the break ins were done by non black people, they you have a better case in saying he was racially profiling him.

I thought that's EXACTLY what racial profiling is? Suspicious of someone simply on their race.

How many white serial killers are there? hundreds of them. Does anyone follow random middle aged white men around all day just because they're white middle aged men in the area of the murders? I doubt it.

...Because looking for someone of a particular description in a particular area is the same thing as going around randomly arresting white guys because white killers exist? Might as well call any police searches based on what a man looks like racist, or people looking for a woman perpetrator by stopping females sexist.

In fear for your life, or of grievous bodily harm. Zimmerman wasn't going to be killed, and his injuries weren't severe:

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/george-zimmerman-jury-told-injuries-insignificant/story?id=19552856#.UeL-A40XnBE

So if this guy who's younger than you has you in a UFC type mount, punches you until his hand bleeds, taking a break only to smack the back of your head into the pavement, reportedly says "you're going to die tonight", your advice would be to just blackout and hope he stops because there's no reason to feel any fear at this point?

Granted, if Martin did anything like that. And even then, how'd he get the gun in a UFC style grapple? Also, how do we know MArtin said anything? Isnt this whole "You're going to die tonight!" eath match nonsense coming from solely Zimmerman?

Yes. This case is mostly comprised of "he said, she said" nonsense, with just one single physical witness that saw Trayvon on top of Zimmerman and also claiming a high chance the "help" yells were from the man on the bottom. In other words, reasonable doubt.

So murder 2, no way.

Manslaughter? If the good chance that Trayvon backtracked doesn't matter to you, you're going to have to go look for information on both these people that were not presented in court (Judge deemed it irrelevant) and make your own determination.


Bolded important part. The law, as written, is used to protect people who cannot immediately *** their own situation because they are in a struggle and panicking and/or lack the necessary medical/etc training. Yes, fear is subjective, so I guess make of it what you will.

I figured that, was just having fun :P

Link?

And now you know why. There was no case. The trial was to appease the rabble-rousers, including but not limited to 0bama and the DoJ who stirred the pot. Lots of people die from homicide and there are no charges brought. You look at the statments and the facts and decide if there is reasonable evidence to charge with criminal activity. A dead body is not always proof of a crime.

He said he was told he was going to die and was starting to lose consciousness due to repeated blows to the head. You don't consider that reasonable fear that his life was in danger? Really?

/ma Blindna Safiyyah

I don't think you quite understand stand your ground laws.

All you need is three little words and you are free to kill.

"I felt threatened."

But now compare compare the Zimmerman verdict to this case, also in FL:

Marissa Alexander Gets 20 Years For Firing Warning Shot

Zimmerman Prevented This From Happening That Night And Where Was The NAACP Or Jesse *** Jackson For This Victim

1. he was no child, he was a punk.
2. you weren't there, you don't know if he felt threatened enough to use self defense.

3. he was found innocent on manslaughter as well, as there wasn't enough evidence for that either.

4. whether something is sick or not is entirely subjective and honestly has no place here, I personally find people trying to make this into a gun debate sickening, but hey.

5. this case had nothing to do with race, until politicians/media made it so.

6. inner city violence would be resolved (mostly) if you eliminated the culture that lets it thrive.

7. the war on drugs is a bad joke.

I don't see enough evidenced to support the idea that he instigated this at all.

Let me first say her husband should have been shot and she should have gotten away with it, BUT...

(And this is why you should never rely on HuffPo for getting the whole story)

She could not use the SYG defense because she left and returned on her own volition. Also, she was under mandatory sentencing guidelines. She was morally permitted to shoot him in my opinion, but not legally permitted. The court decided properly, and of course it was portrayed by utter morons as a racist/sexist case.

Theres also the good chance that he may have back tracked and never attacked Zimmerman (Ever heard of people looking around the corner to see if the thing following them is still there? same concept.). Or, the odd chance that Zimmerman still followed Martin and began a physical confrontation. Or you know, Zimmerman fabricated a really good story that was utterly believable and easy to explain with little evidence.

Um, we're talking about a 17 year old boy who was on a 711 run to get iced tea and skittles. Treatening? I think not... And that's not even mentioning Zimmerman's extensive criminal activity record and molestation accusations. I'm extremely saddened by this trial and it's result- and nervous that concealed carry has just become legal in Illinois. May the odds be ever in our favor.