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Matamata Broken?
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By Valefor.Ingui 2013-07-09 22:28:25
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My ls did 3 Matamata tonight all with no magic damage until after 7th ws but he wasn't taking damage like normal. Anyone have any ideas or have this happen to them?
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2013-07-09 22:39:01
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Worked like normal for us tonight. Best guess if there was ABSOLUTELY no magic damage at all is that whoever was counting possibly missed the first TP move so the 7th TP move was actually the 8th TP move. I think after 8 he automatically resets.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2013-07-09 22:45:26
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We had some issues as well and Tojil is pretty much farm status for us so I hope it wasn't just a counting error. After move #5 I had a 79 dmg Thunder IV which is normal and then 700+ dmg Thunder V after the 6th move and then our dd's could only get it to 50% after the 7th so it wasn't a total reset. We did switch to doing physical damage after that (then nuking after 7) and it worked like normal.
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By Valefor.Ingui 2013-07-09 22:54:19
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@bojak not even formless strikes?
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2013-07-09 22:58:09
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Valefor.Ingui said: »
@bojak not even formless strikes?

Not really sure what you're asking ><.

I'd say there's also a possibility that someone hit it with Formless Strikes active a split second too early and cause his resistance's to reset.
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By Asura.Echandra 2013-07-09 23:47:37
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1. counting to 7. a lot of times when people pull it, they just drag it unclaimed and forget to do any damage before the first TP move so it takes 0 dmg from physical or magic and then when it does a TP move people count that move so your "6th or 7th" will be off. Depending on which approach your LS takes, best bet is to just claim it with autoattack or a nuke so there's no flubbing the count.

2. triggerhappy DD like bojack said. Someone may have tried to maximize time hitting it as it was TP'n instead of waiting so that will skew that as well.

Personally, depending on your party setup, I think building up to be weak vs melee doing magic damage works better, then DD can just auto-attack and weaponskill like morons and not screw it up. A good rdm can do this in their sleep and you can pretty much kill it from the 5th or 6th TP instead of waiting.
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By Bahamut.Lilsanchez 2013-07-09 23:54:21
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I'm the usual matamata MNK and tank for our LS. I've killed it dozens of times without fail. A few tips. Fairly typical and easy on how to count to 7. If you are unsure if your next is for sure #7 you can tell by watching how much your damage does on #5 and #6. 5 You will be doing 3~6 ish damage per punch. 6 you will be doing 1s and 0s. (Mostly 1s)

The next thing to realize is do not formless too fast the moment #7 TP move happens. Your first hit has to be physical. Hit it a couple times for ZERO damage. Then you know its stuck in the phase. Also another tip. Save your impetus and focus/aggressor. Also keep your Tantra Cyclas +2 equipped throughout the formless. Try and remember to pop impetus at TP move #6. So you can build it up a bit before #7 happens. Don't need to wear the tantra +2 body until you start formless zerg on #7.
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By Siren.Novadragon 2013-07-10 00:17:47
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Bahamut.Lilsanchez said: »
I'm the usual matamata MNK and tank for our LS. I've killed it dozens of times without fail. A few tips. Fairly typical and easy on how to count to 7. If you are unsure if your next is for sure #7 you can tell by watching how much your damage does on #5 and #6. 5 You will be doing 3~6 ish damage per punch. 6 you will be doing 1s and 0s. (Mostly 1s)

The next thing to realize is do not formless too fast the moment #7 TP move happens. Your first hit has to be physical. Hit it a couple times for ZERO damage. Then you know its stuck in the phase. Also another tip. Save your impetus and focus/aggressor. Also keep your Tantra Cyclas +2 equipped throughout the formless. Try and remember to pop impetus at TP move #6. So you can build it up a bit before #7 happens. Don't need to wear the tantra +2 body until you start formless zerg on #7.

Pretty much Sanchez said. Don't formless till the 7th TP move ends completely, that's when you start formless.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-07-10 01:13:41
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So much misinformation in here.
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By Sylph.Decimus 2013-07-10 01:30:10
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People aren't asking how to kill it. We're asking if it's broken because it was taking some very strange damage.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-10 01:34:49
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Of course they nerfed it, you didn't think SE intended for or was going to allow 5/5+Boss runs to happen any longer did you!? KILL OUR PRECIOUS CREATIONS, HERE HAVE SOME NERF SALAD.
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By Sylph.Traxus 2013-07-10 02:03:50
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Fought mata in a shitty plasm farm pug earlier, and it was working normally with the physical damage for 7 tp moves -> formless method.
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By fractalvoid 2013-07-10 02:09:28
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Didn't notice anything different about Mata tonight.
People were saying something about it being super hard to land Dispel on Kurma since the update but I don't know forsure about that since our RDM looked fairly questionable.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-07-10 02:11:16
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Kurma nearly fully resisting dispel has pretty much been confirmed at this point. Sucks balls.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-07-10 02:13:06
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Kurma's newfound dispel hardheadeness is only made worse by the fact that Harden Shell being active increases the probability of song :(
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By Sylph.Traxus 2013-07-10 02:19:05
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Is it just a kurma thing, or did languor get nerfed?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Hidegger 2013-07-10 03:00:28
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They don't want us playing rdm is all. Kurma got dispelled a few more times from SCH, GEO and BRD the other night when we fought a few.
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By Bahamut.Lilsanchez 2013-07-10 09:13:28
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Do it right and it will take normal damage. Mata is not broken. Killed it 4 times after maint. I don't see what the issue is.
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By Shiva.Paulu 2013-07-10 09:23:35
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Of course they nerfed it, you didn't think SE intended for or was going to allow 5/5+Boss runs to happen any longer did you!? KILL OUR PRECIOUS CREATIONS, HERE HAVE SOME NERF SALAD.
They should of left Shiva's intact. NA still haven't won yet lol.
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