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By Phoenix.Morier 2013-07-02 13:45:28
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Zack died a glorious death in CC.AC clouds warcry was dilly dally shilly shally. end of debate. Zack wins.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-07-02 13:45:48
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
makes sense. Cloud was a (whiny) ***, so why not give it to Lightning?
Cause, thats an insult to lightning.
Now if they gave it to hope.....
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By Phoenix.Morier 2013-07-02 13:47:24
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Most epic costume and weapon in Final Fantasy history? lol give me a break.

Mechanics alone, Squall's Revolver > Buster Sword...Add looks into the mix and we have something that actually has some unique design to it vs a slab of rusty metal. The only thing I like about the Buster Sword is the sentimental value.

Also, Zack wore the suit/sword better than both Cloud and Lightning.

Gunblade*

Get on my level
It was named revolver. Get on a less HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE level.
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By Quiznor 2013-07-02 13:47:44
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Phoenix.Morier said: »
Zack died a glorious death in CC.AC clouds warcry was dilly dally shilly shally. end of debate. Zack wins.

Not to mention,according to the games + almost every fangirl on the internet,cloud was gay for sephiroth. Zack is just a man's man
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By Quiznor 2013-07-02 13:49:18
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Phoenix.Morier said: »
Quiznor said: »
Lakshmi.Alryc said: »
Most epic costume and weapon in Final Fantasy history? lol give me a break.

Mechanics alone, Squall's Revolver > Buster Sword...Add looks into the mix and we have something that actually has some unique design to it vs a slab of rusty metal. The only thing I like about the Buster Sword is the sentimental value.

Also, Zack wore the suit/sword better than both Cloud and Lightning.

Gunblade*

Get on my level
It was named revolver. Get on a less HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE level.

Still applies! Symantics!
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-07-02 13:49:27
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Quiznor said: »
Phoenix.Morier said: »
Zack died a glorious death in CC.AC clouds warcry was dilly dally shilly shally. end of debate. Zack wins.

Not to mention,according to the games + almost every fangirl on the internet,cloud was gay for sephiroth. Zack is just a man's man
Zack, Angeal & Genesis 3-way.
Theres most likely a fan fix of it somewhere :|
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By Blazed1979 2013-07-02 13:50:20
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Quiznor said: »
Phoenix.Morier said: »
Zack died a glorious death in CC.AC clouds warcry was dilly dally shilly shally. end of debate. Zack wins.

Not to mention,according to the games + almost every fangirl on the internet,cloud was gay for sephiroth. Zack is just a man's man

Climax @ 1:43
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By Bismarck.Misao 2013-07-02 13:50:23
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2013-07-02 13:53:20
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worthless preorder bonus for a worthless game.
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By Bismarck.Misao 2013-07-02 13:55:31
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worthless game?
no, still priced at $59.99 USD

edit: and I bet you can get some moneys off ebay for that DLC code
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-07-02 13:56:47
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Squall and Seipher were both Masters of the GUNBLADE. His initial starting GUNBLADE was called the revolver, because guess what, it used a revolver model.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-07-02 13:58:41
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Blazed1979 said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
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The company will make or break their own game. In SE's case, more likely break.

For all those that are strawmaning this thread, relax. We don't hate you because you like Lightning. We just wish you would go away or die.

This Cloud Costume gimmickry is nothing more than the desperate last moans of a dying, outdated, out of touch and oblivious FF division.

It has been spelt out to SE countless times. In Sales. In plummeting share prices. In customer retention rates and hundreds of forum posts and reviews.

WE DON'T WANT MORE LIGHTNING, WE DON'T WANT MORE CLOUD!

Their company values must be rooted in some hardcore BDSM/Bushido *** or something. They continuously work towards their weaknesses and flush all of their strengths down the shitter.

There's so much wrong with this video!


You are aware that it's only a costume and nearly every single JRPG's nowadays have DLC costumes ...? On top of that it's free if you pre-order, you should just really take a deep breath and relax.

I'm not going to pretend im not mad.
They spent time and money on this ***. Its just insulting to FF fans. It disgusts me.

Nowhere in their decision making did anyone say "I think we need to actually start making good games again and stop this trend of milking our past success. The fans aren't idiots.... neither are our shareholders. We've pretty much ruined one of the world's longest running and most successful RPGs with this ***. Maybe we need to start connecting with our base"

If someone did say that, I'm fairly certain they got tossed out the window.

How the F_ck ....

Hey kiddies - look Lightning in cloud's costume. Leave us the hell alone, what do you expect from us? Square soft quality gaming? gtfo.

Or, maybe they're doing this to...*GASP* HAVE FUN WITH THEIR OWN PROPERTY?!?!?

I wasn't going to go anywhere beyond the Lightning Trollface on the first page, until I saw this. What is so wrong with the idea of companies doing whatever they please or whatever makes them happy, especially with a feature that is optional to begin with? Hell, it already has struck some excitement into FF fans alike. As another poster said, everyone went into an outrage about Serah in the N7 suit promo for FF13-2, and then no one gave a flying *** afterward. It will no doubt be the same way with FF13-3, especially if people take their godddamn nostalgia goggles off and be a little more open-minded.

Ever since Final Fantasy 7 was deemed a classic, all it really has done is bring out the elitism in JRPG fans, always trying to pressure Square-Enix into making the next Final Fantasy that lives up to FF7's standards, which the company never sought out to do anyway. And they only can do so much to please the fanbase because of it. They can do whatever they want as far as I'm concerned, especially since next-gen Final Fantasy looks very promising.

The basis for the hatred towards Lightning as "a weak character" is unfounded and highly subjective, despite how Lightning and Cloud act very identical with some varying personality traits unique to themselves (and I don't understand how this is called out as a double standard yet). People need to learn go beyond her weaknesses, stoic dialogue and mannerisms...she's just as qualified as the rest of the Stars of the Franchise.

If you don't like this costume to go with your pre-order, no one's forcing you to use it. No one's forcing you to buy this game either. All you're really doing is just finding excuses to give a damn before you decide to leave it completely. So just do it already. It's like I say sometimes: "Indifference makes all the difference."

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They put titts in my cloud mother fu_ker! Its the principle of the matter you ***!

Wow, I would have punched you in face for how sexist that was
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By Quiznor 2013-07-02 13:59:15
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Squall and Seipher were both Masters of the GUNBLADE. His initial starting GUNBLADE was called the revolver, because guess what, it used a revolver model.

I know,I fail to see your point.

edit: Oh wait,my post at the end of the last page,you thought it was super cereal?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-07-02 13:59:20
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I really dislike these kind of commercial things, but the mad in here is excessive.

Something I'm really mad about at SE is the lack of localization for FF0...you guys say Square doesn't make good FF anymore, but that one is just amazing and the kind of game I think about when picturing a FF title.

Derail, but who cares bout Lightning in a terrible dress!
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-07-02 14:02:41
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
makes sense. Cloud was a (whiny) ***, so why not give it to Lightning?

I lol'ed

@blaze.

I agree with you. Square is churning out ***and stupid decisions lately. If re-re-re doing ffxiv isn't what breaks SE, re-re-re doing XIII will be.

HOWEVER, I do have to dissagree with you on one front.

Blazed1979 said: »
The company will make or break their own game. In SE's case, more likely break.

For all those that are strawmaning this thread, relax. We don't hate you because you like Lightning. We just wish you would go away or die.

This Cloud Costume gimmickry is nothing more than the desperate last moans of a dying, outdated, out of touch and oblivious FF division.

It has been spelt out to SE countless times. In Sales. In plummeting share prices. In customer retention rates and hundreds of forum posts and reviews.

WE DON'T WANT MORE LIGHTNING, WE DON'T WANT MORE CLOUD!

Their company values must be rooted in some hardcore BDSM/Bushido *** or something. They continuously work towards their weaknesses and flush all of their strengths down the shitter.

There's so much wrong with this video!

Srsly, I pretty much completely agree with the rest of your points (see above). The thing is: this is relatively outside of the box for "current era" SE. The gratuitous fan-service / T&A on something not borderline lolicon, or androgynous tomboy, is at least an attempt. It's clear that SE hasn't had much of a clue for several years now but at least this is them doing something different. They didn't make a WHOLE GAME the fanservice (other than it being X-2 part 4 if you include XII XIII XII-2) they just gave you some DLC.
I remember square just throwing in small easter eggs throughout games as a wink and a nod to the faithful. As a steadfast adversary to the recent "barbie dressup fantasy" we've had, even I must give them props on a genuinely decent attempt to please multiple groups: The die hard FFVII players get a bone without affecting their new game in any way (not to mention bringing in a few old players who wouldnt give it a second look) and the gamers who enjoy the new direction SE is taking (toward the chapter 11 line).

I can fault SE many things these days, but I think this was a solid economic decision for them (sorry).
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-07-02 14:02:51
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Plus, i love boobs.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2013-07-02 14:03:56
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Ramuh.Urial said: »
Ragnarok.Corres said: »
makes sense. Cloud was a (whiny) ***, so why not give it to Lightning?
Cause, thats an insult to lightning.
Now if they gave it to hope.....
do never say his name please. That little pussy has brought me almost a broken hand, because i got so mad about this whiny ***. Had to punch something to feel something other than anger.
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By Phoenix.Morier 2013-07-02 14:04:23
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OMG i have a moogle costume in fxi those *** in se milking the moogles! cant be for fun or anything at all!
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By Quiznor 2013-07-02 14:04:23
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There it is,inb4nuke
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By Phoenix.Morier 2013-07-02 14:05:04
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Ramuh.Urial said: »
Ragnarok.Corres said: »
makes sense. Cloud was a (whiny) ***, so why not give it to Lightning?
Cause, thats an insult to lightning.
Now if they gave it to hope.....
do never say his name please. That little pussy has brought me almost a broken hand, because i got so mad about this whiny ***. Had to punch something to feel something other than anger.
You should masturbate less.
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-07-02 14:05:10
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Ragnarok.Corres said: »
Ramuh.Urial said: »
Ragnarok.Corres said: »
makes sense. Cloud was a (whiny) ***, so why not give it to Lightning?
Cause, thats an insult to lightning.
Now if they gave it to hope.....
do never say his name please. That little pussy has brought me almost a broken hand, because i got so mad about this whiny ***. Had to punch something to feel something other than anger.
Honestly, I don't dislike hope.
Was he whiny, a bit.
But I'll be honest I doubt I'd keep my head if I were 15 and in his situation. But I also understand most people don't play a fantasy game in search of characters that act real/human.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Absolutezero 2013-07-02 14:06:33
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I think it's a pretty cool, a fun little bonus, certainly nothing to get upset over. But maybe that's because I appreciate references to past games in the series. For example Gilgamesh from xii rocking all those (fake) ultimate weapons. I liked that.

Plus taking a sword to some cactaurs seems like more fun than fighting a bunch of robots like in xiii.
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By Quiznor 2013-07-02 14:08:15
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Quetzalcoatl.Absolutezero said: »
I think it's a pretty cool, a fun little bonus, certainly nothing to get upset over. But maybe that's because I appreciate references to past games in the series. For example Gilgamesh from xii rocking all those (fake) ultimate weapons. I liked that.

Plus taking a sword to some cactaurs seems like more fun than fighting a bunch of robots like in xiii.

There were cactuars in XIII
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-07-02 14:08:16
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Quetzalcoatl.Absolutezero said: »
I think it's a pretty cool, a fun little bonus, certainly nothing to get upset over. But maybe that's because I appreciate references to past games in the series. For example Gilgamesh from xii rocking all those (fake) ultimate weapons. I liked that.

Plus taking a sword to some cactaurs seems like more fun than fighting a bunch of robots like in xiii.
This.
I like the fact that they've gone in a new directions but they like to pay homage to their heritage.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-07-02 14:08:52
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Quiznor said: »
There it is,inb4nuke

dont' nuke it pleeeeeease lol. This is the closest i've come to saying something nice about anythign squares done lately
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By Quiznor 2013-07-02 14:09:39
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Quiznor said: »
There it is,inb4nuke

dont' nuke it pleeeeeease lol. This is the closest i've come to saying something nice about anythign squares done lately

I wont,I'm just saying there's the cause :x
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By Ramuh.Urial 2013-07-02 14:09:42
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Quiznor said: »
There it is,inb4nuke

dont' nuke it pleeeeeease lol. This is the closest i've come to saying something nice about anythign squares done lately
What are your thoughts on them turning XIII-V into XIV since it took so long....
/waits for ash to 'splode
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By Phoenix.Morier 2013-07-02 14:10:30
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I remember the horrible rage i felt when in resident evil 3 i could wear a dino crisis costume. /sarcasm
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