SE Wants You To Bring Along "gimp" Players...

You'd think so, but you can do NNI for one afternoon and get 3 pieces if the floor jumps aren't against you, but it's still like pulling teeth to shout up a Sch for it.

I thought they'd gotten over the whole entry requirement thing when they changed Ein and Dynamis, but it looks like they just can't let it go.

minimum entry requirements are kinda the bread and butter of mmo's

I have a list of gear i want and just stare at it all day lulz

If they changed Nyzul to say, a model where you get 3 pieces per round of tag, that mean you complete the whole thing in 25 days, which is imo long enough for such content.

You'd be surprised.


Those were the only items left before SoA came out. And holy ***, Flume became much cheaper.

But even then, I already cap everything without either so, ya.

Then SE needs to get to work on that cross server dungeon finder.

Yea some of my items are more for the sake of hqing it all like af+1 head and 4 marrow for yoichi for bowsam :s

I really feel they need to cut the servers in half again 2k players is a terrible playerbase when half are jp only and the like. Maybe split up players depending on playtime? Would help the EU playerbase instead of like bismarck that has no real EU LS. i know friends that quit over that.

Yeah the EU players we always had trouble in this game. Hell it's the only time I feel lucky that due to my line of work my schedules are closer to the US play time>.>;;

Thats quite true unfortunately. If everyone wasn't using the spell cast cheat, things would be a lot different ingame. Imagine everyone being limited to 6 lines macros. Think how that would effect almost everything you do. - So for the people that are not using the program, they are at a huge disadvantage no matter how good they are.

I agree that international servers artificially inflate the population assuming that you have access to them as potential party members. They don't really factor in the number of alts and people you don't have access to due to different playtimes and language barriers.

A system like dungeon finder would be great if you could input the assaults and gear you want from specific events to allow you to group up with random people who need the same things.

Valefor most of the time doesn't even break 1k people online.

1455 online atm on Odin

I thought Odin was supposed to be one of the bigger servers, 1455 is surprisingly low. Though compared to Siren I guess thats alot. In the three~ years I have been playing on this server the population has always been between 900 and 1800ish with spikes of over 2000 during weekend JP primetime. Cant check anymore but I imagine now the population on siren during weekdays probably doesn't eclipse 1k (outside of JP primetime of course).

usually barely over 2k in bismarck at a time

that was about 10 am on a Wednesday

Allow people to party up regardless of server for dungeons then return to their respective servers after the events over. You could limit it to certain events if the economy argument is gonna come up.

I'm not sure if the servers could handle such a thing but it'd do wonders for the low pop problems of FFXI. Lakshmi is almost always low pop / dead.

Hi Sapphire, nice to meet you.

Ive only read a couple of page just waste a bit of time, but I found the need to reply.

Where I do agree somewhat with what you said, I think you might be missing the point about people doing endgame before they are ready.

The game has moved on so much so quickly, that, everyone is pushed to have the endgame type gear (i.e. delve and super delve items) and along the way, trying to catch up with their piers, they are missing out on learning the game. This was the way with Abyssea too I reckon. Anyway, they also miss out learning how to work as a team, build confidence and learn coordination within the game.

Its up to the better players to help them along I feel. Its not hard be nice, set it out from the start what they need to do, be patient as long as you can, get some feedback to, and if people are saying STFU then tell them you only wanting to help.

I ain't a great player, I consider myself average, I try to go along with what people say, and I ask questions, sometimes I feel uncomfortable and don't ask for info.

I have found delve exciting but so frustrating too. People want so much so fast even I have ended up getting my DRG polearm to rank 15 and I feel like I've rushed it to keep up to everyone. (Though I do feel a little proud of it as its part of job I enjoy)

Might have gone on a bit there, anyway, have to go, so little time.

Just to add, any groups (Preferable EU) doing stuff like NNI, Salvage 2 etc, I'd be somewhat interested in joining and advancing my knowledge and skill. Feel free to /tell me in game, I'm very much approachable.

thanks

Azuraeu from Ragnorak (I havent changed my account info yet hahaha)

No. Please, just, no. The dungeon finder was on its face a fantastic idea that ended up destroying the core of the social experience of WoW (not that it was a bright and sunny place or anything, though).

Well, they have to do something to shape the game around the player base they have rather than try to force the player base to shape itself to their designs.

Very well said Cam. But that does seem the case sadly.

That I'll agree with. Server mergers and/or transfers are probably overdue, and they should probably do more to encourage participation in all that previous content that's out there. Double Salvage plans was a good idea and it should probably become permanent (and I'd argue that double XP should be made permanent as well, but that's another topic). VW should have its drop system overhauled most likely, and they should do something to ease NNI if it's not going to be top-dog anymore but is still a substantial part of the stepping stone to get into new content. I'm not really sure what they can do to smooth out progression for Abyssea--it's already one of the easier portions of the game, but it's old content for most of the player-base even if some of the pieces are still necessary to many jobs. Skirmish is reasonable to enter but the rewards are kind of lackluster if you don't need one of the weapons--perhaps increasing the amount of stuff you get from the caskets at the end would help here.

I'm just throwing out ideas at this point, though. Making it more reasonable to progress through the previous "tiers" of content would go along way toward solving the problems with Delve entry.

865 online with Siren at the moment. It's JP-time and this server has a much stronger JP presence than the English players.

This thread and that realization is making me want to leave.

My mistake ;_;

Still, we had to shout over an hour for 3 DD's (nowhere near optimal) during NA prime, to do some farming...fun.

I've been afk or I would have joined.

Looks like my earlier estimates on this thread weren't far off at all lol. If anything I might have overestimated the server population even. 865 is pretty bad but to be fair it is kinda early atm still. Looks like you posted that just before 2PM eastern so that time frame typically has low amounts of players online anyway.

830 at 7:09 PM

yeah...

I make the comment that illegal programs add 5 levels to the skill of your character, at minimum.

At the end of the day, it's pretty much what I said on the other (now gone) thread: You either have to rescale the game for the "gimps" and get rid of those using illegal means to inflate the skill level of the playerbase beyond balance, or you have to rid the game of the gimps and force a minimum competence (including, as necessary, illegal tools) to even be allowed to play FFXI.

You have no third option.

The third option is to keep the status quo and its what they been doing all along anyway. Windower isn't going anywhere no matter how much you rant like in that other thread you mentioned. Though good job getting that thread nuked and sparing anyone else from possibly reading the high school like theatrics it contained. The community appreciates it.