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By Sylph.Chocobro 2013-11-04 21:26:40
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is anyone having issues with spellcast and new blue spells ? for some reason i cant cast nature's meditation on myself w/o unloading the plugin. all the others work fine.

Had the same problem. Found out when you try to macro it, it outputs as /monsterskill "Nat. Meditation" <me> instead of /ma or /magic.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-11-04 21:36:42
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Just learned Drone Whirlwind, heading to Shark now ;o
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-11-04 21:39:30
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Cerberus.Diabolique said: »
I know they take additional light and fire damage, but they seem to resist darkness pretty badly, from spells and stuff at least. Maybe SC's just work differently on them. Sanguine was doing a massive 150 damage.

Darkness skillchains don't necessarily deal darkness damage. Earth is probably getting chosen.
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By Fenrir.Theoryofthought 2013-11-04 21:41:56
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Sylph.Chocobro said: »
Nature's Me
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is anyone having issues with spellcast and new blue spells ? for some reason i cant cast nature's meditation on myself w/o unloading the plugin. all the others work fine.

Had the same problem. Found out when you try to macro it, it outputs as /monsterskill "Nat. Meditation" <me> instead of /ma or /magic.


hmmmm just tried that and still not giving me anything. imma try a whole new xml file. thanks
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-11-04 21:42:10
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Dmg wasn't too impressive, did like 1.6k to a rabbit in Ceizak. Might dispel multiple buffs though, need to check.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-11-04 22:15:04
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Nature's Meditation
Duration: 60s Casting Time: 1s Recast Time: 60s MP Cost: 38 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: DEX+6 Trait: Accuracy Bonus
Notes: Attack+20% (52/256), Requires no other spells to give trait


Temptestuous Upheaval
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 3.796875 (972/256) WSC: None Casting Time: .5s Recast Time: 12s MP Cost: 133 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: AGI+6 Trait: Evasion Bonus
Notes:


Rending Deluge
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 3.5 WSC: None Casting Time: 3s Recast Time: 35s MP Cost: 118 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: VIT+6 Trait: Magic Defense Bonus
Notes: Additional Effect: Dispel, Requires no other spells to give trait, Dispels one beneficial effect


Embalming Earth
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 3 WSC: None Duration: 180s Casting Time: 4.5s Recast Time: 24s MP Cost: 57 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stat Bonus: STR+6 Trait: Attack Bonus
Notes: Additional Effect: Slow, Requires no other spells to give trait, +25% Slow


Foul Waters
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 2.25 WSC: None Duration: 180s Casting Time: 3.5s Recast Time: 60s MP Cost: 76 Blue Point Cost: 4 Stat Bonus: HP+10 VIT+4 Trait: Resist Silence
Notes: Additional Effect: Drown, Requires no other spells to give trait, 31/tic DoT + -65STR


Retinal Glare
dSTAT: 2*dINT fTP: 2.75 WSC: None Duration: 15s Casting Time: 1s Recast Time: 45s MP Cost: 26 Blue Point Cost: 5 Stat Bonus: MP+15 INT+3 Trait: Conserve MP
Notes: Additional Effect: Flash, Requires no other spells to give trait


Paralyzing Triad
fTP: 1.125 WSC: X Duration: 60s Casting Time: .5s Recast Time: 15s MP Cost: 33 Blue Point Cost: 6 Stats: HP-10 STR+4 DEX+4 Trait: Skillchain Bonus
Notes: Additional Effect: Paralysis, Requires no other spells to give trait


Glutionous Dart
fTP: 1.0@100 2.0@150 X@300 WSC: 50%STR 50%VIT Casting Time: .5s Recast Time: 6 MP Cost: 16 Blue Point Cost: 2 Stat Bonus: HP+15 STR+3 DEX+3 INT-3 Trait: Max HP Boost
Notes: Long range


need to finish Triad WSC and paralysis strength later, mostly complete though.
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By tennotsukai87 2013-11-04 22:20:11
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Draylo, anything special on whirlwind? Dispel more than one effect?
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By Ophannus 2013-11-04 22:20:25
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So Paralyzing is a Delat Thrust+1 just more expensive to set and a Paralyze rather than Plague. i guess it could have utility as a lowman spell and replacement to SZS/Mindblast I suppose.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-11-04 22:24:15
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didn't list it but it has a gravitation SC property, so it makes darkness with CDC. Looking like at least 50/50 for WSC, so its damage potential exceeds Delta Thrust by a fair margin.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-11-04 22:26:19
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tennotsukai87 said: »
Draylo, anything special on whirlwind? Dispel more than one effect?

Going to test it after this shark fight.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-04 22:30:17
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I'm slightly confused... I think you might have misattributed the WSC for Para Triad on Glutinous Dart?

I know that Triad is Gravi property and that Dart is Frag property bit don't know the WSC for Dart.

But I derp a lot so I could be derping ^_^
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-11-04 22:31:46
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I haven't finished finding the WSC for triad yet
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-11-04 23:43:17
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Carcharian Verve:


65 mp cost. 17~18% atk, Went from 1,154 atk to 1,354. Duration: about 60s
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By Leviathan.Gempig 2013-11-04 23:45:44
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Draylo is the best Blue Mage ever.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-11-05 00:11:08
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Drone Whirlwind test in Brenner, Seems to dispel all buffs (he had 10 buffs on):





Side Note: Seems Gluttinous Dart is an awesome pvp spell lol, can just kite them and spam it.
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By tennotsukai87 2013-11-05 01:09:49
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Hmm...so verve is kind of a let down? Less attack% than nature's...with the exception of magic attack up. That could be helpful, maybe.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-11-05 01:10:47
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Yeah I'm pretty disappointed by it, the duration is the worst part imo. If it was longer than it would be more useful. Doesn't even remove debuff :/
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By Cerberus.Febond 2013-11-05 01:34:37
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Lakshmi.Zerowone said: »
Asura.Gregalen said: »
Can anyone confirm if Embalming Earth can be used by Sinewy Matamata's?
That's what I learned it on. It took 20 of them they like to do the tail and the cranial TP moves more than Embalming.


amadis said: »
It gives +6 STR which is 4 attack, im guessing your already sub WAR and have attack bonus trait

yeah I was overlooking my sub and the 6str...total derptatos on my behalf.



Edit: Has anyone noticed that the Darkness Skillchain from Requiescat>Quad. Continuum seems buffed this update?
Normally it matches the damage of Quad, but for some reason its doing more etc.

example being: 2.9-3.1kRequi>3.5kQuad.Contin>4.5kDarkness
Mob= Livid Umbril. sub=/rdm.


Just learned from Disturbed Matamata in Moh Gates
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-11-05 01:39:23
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My thoughts, after having experimented and evaluated these things all damn day:

Nature's Meditation: Direct Upgrade to Triumphant Roar, however it is extremely expensive. Will be hard to fit in to most spell builds, however some things (like Actinic Burst) can safely be removed.

Temptestuous Upheaval: Overall useless. The damage isn't very good for the MP cost, and the trait is better made using other, more useful spells.

Rending Deluge: Meh, so and so. Alright damage for the MP, and the effect can be moderately useful on a handful of things. Once again, so very very expensive for what it is.

Embalming Earth: Another enormously expensive to set spell, however this one is actually worth the cost. It gives a decent trait, a nice bonus stat bonus, and for the MP cost its damage and additional effect are fantastic. If you can find the space in your spell list, it's one of the better spells that we got this time around.

Foul Waters: This one is interesting. It isn't as expensive as a lot of the other spells in terms of set cost, however it provides very little in terms of bonus stats and trait usefulness. That can be cast aside, however, as it supplies what is easily the most powerful non-helix DoT in the game that just so happens to come with a monstrous STR debuff. The MP cost may look prohibitive at first, but this one is actually quite efficient in terms of damage:MP before considering the benefits of reducing the target's strength by such a large amount.

Retinal Glare: I actually love this one, except for the set cost. 5 points is steep, but you are getting quite a great spell in return for the investment as well as a decent trait. It's ridiculously cheap for the amount of damage that it does, and the flash effect is superb; due to the recast time, you can theoretically keep something flashed for up to 90% of the time, on average. That's *** nuts.

Paralyzing Triad: Finally, a cheap paralyze that isn't horrifically bad, and it's attached to a not so horrible spell, nontheless. Problem is, it comes at immense cost; another 6 pointer. God damn it. Any usefulness you get out of this will likely be handicapped by this limitation, as finding space on your spell list for it will be troublesome, and Retinal Glare is, in my opinion, a better use of your points in most situations, however I can see myself setting this now and again for funsies.

Glutinous Dart: Holy ***. No really. This has got to be the coolest thing ever. Not only is the animation that of you throwing *** bolas at your enemy, but this spell is our most cost effective damage spell of all time. 16 MP. 6 second recast. Moderate damage potential. Amazing range. If nothing else, the miniscule cost deserves a slot on your list if you plan on pulling things from afar or claiming things (idk, maybe you're one of those new age old age players or something). I love this one, it's my favorite of the new spells.

Vespine Hurricane: Transcended above my expectations. I expected maybe 2 or 3 buffs dispelled, but ten or more? Situationally, this can be quite good. Easily the best of the three new UL spells just because it actually has a purpose. In fact, I won't bother writing my ideas about the other two. Verve is terribad and Roar requires some pretty horrendous circumstances to be worth casting. Oh well. Better luck next time.

Potentially pretty legit spell setup for general purpose pewpewing

Quad. Continuum
Delta Thrust
Barbed Crescent
Sudden Lunge
Glutinous Dart/Heavy Strike
Benthic Typhoon
Embalming Earth/Paralyzing Triad
Retinal Glare

Animating Wail
Cocoon
Battery Charge
Nature's Meditation
Magic Fruit
Winds of Promyvion

Blazing Bound
Fantod
Mortal Ray

Sets you up with DW3, Store TP, Conserve MP, Attack Bonus, Accuracy Bonus, a source of Slow/Paralyze, the amazingness that is Retinal Glare's flash uptime, Defense Down, buffs for days, inner reflections from the secrets of the universe, and more. If you aren't subbing WAR you can make alterations to stick DA in there, can also take out WoP if it isn't needed or something and find a way to squeeze in Foul Water, whatever floats your proverbial boat. But yeah, lots of options to play around with these. The costs are prohibitive, but there's definitely ways to make them work for the best.
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By tennotsukai87 2013-11-05 01:53:23
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Hope we actually get a next time. It would make sense to let us learn some spells from the newer adoulin zones. Perhaps, at least we have a chance at having some broken spells in the future now that they are in the known problems section or w/e. Not really happy with every bit of this update other than some sp2s and a couple of spells that I may rarely equip.
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By Bismarck.Bloodbeat 2013-11-05 03:13:22
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Paralyzing Triad can be learned from a Snowcap Umbril, so I assume they all use it.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2013-11-05 09:21:47
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Mortal Ray is not exactly useless anymore. Just doomed some Serac Bunnies in Woh Gates.



PoiDH


was at 100HP. ^_^
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By Sylph.Hyunkyl 2013-11-05 15:16:34
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Seems like no spell can be learned in WKR, not just the Big 3 from Delve :(
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-11-05 15:31:59
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Yes, they kinda directly said that
 
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-11-05 23:06:52
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Is there a sizable impact to DPS losing triple attack or is it made up for with the extra utility and attack buff?
 
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-11-05 23:42:09
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I was really, really hoping they would alleviate some of the trait issues but it is nice they've given us some pretty nice spells over all.

Maybe one day when I have time to play again I can try to get these spells.
 
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-11-06 08:48:19
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Can dart be learned from any Velk or just the dest, ones? Man seen it a ton and no bueno from a sage...
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