edit: well a friend clued me in that they are believed to be the same value(mani and iuitl)
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edit: well a friend clued me in that they are believed to be the same value(mani and iuitl)
Ragnarok.Matix said: »
edit: well a friend clued me in that they are believed to be the same value(mani and iuitl)
Same value without augments or with max augment?
Without augment Iuitl should be slightly better
Iuitl>Manibozo even w/o augs an that's a fact. Snapshot did some testing and he still believes Iuitl gloves give +10% even though it says +5, it's your choice to believe him.
I never tested mani hands. It was iuitl feet with snapshot vs legion. Pretty sure Mani are only 4%.
Can you post the testing you did on the feet?
Do orion braces have be on when shooting with barage for the extra shots or just when hit the ja?
Heimdel said: »
Do orion braces have be on when shooting with barage for the extra shots or just when hit the ja?
yes...they have to be on during the shot
Anyone can help me with this I dont see
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
Its fine to use if you need the extra sTP a to obtain your 4hit. But in most cases it's not needed. Other gear options between hands, legs, back, and waist will give you the same sTP amount, with greater ranged accuracy and ranged attack.
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Anyone can help me with this I dont see
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
Odin.Shaggnix said: »
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Anyone can help me with this I dont see
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
^This, i finally got my kotes with stp +5 and critical hit +2 something like that not sure if the critical hit was dmg or not.
Also since i got my kotes all 'm missing now is the tripudo earring and well also the moonshade earring but is the moonshade earring a must like asap? because i'm really really low on that expansion pack missions think only got to mission 3.
Thanks. I am working on getting my relic gun to 119 so looking at sets.
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
I still need DM2 body and stp earring. I've done the fight and had a few chances to lot but the random generator decided to troll. Using the 119 AF body atm.
S. Kotes vs manibozho hands?
Any new changes to Rng relic gun sets with the new gear out?
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
I still need DM2 body and stp earring. I've done the fight and had a few chances to lot but the random generator decided to troll. Using the 119 AF body atm.
S. Kotes vs manibozho hands?
Any new changes to Rng relic gun sets with the new gear out?
moonshade TP bonus:
namas/coronach: extends aftermath slightly (don't use it)
jishnus: slight crit rate bonus (probably not optimal, don't know bow well enough to say)
Last stand: at 1000 tp you go from 2.0 Ftp to 2.25, or a ~12% increase in dmg. Assuming you use element belt/gorget already its actual taking you from 2.2 to 2.45 Ftp, closer to a 10% increase in dmg.
namas/coronach: extends aftermath slightly (don't use it)
jishnus: slight crit rate bonus (probably not optimal, don't know bow well enough to say)
Last stand: at 1000 tp you go from 2.0 Ftp to 2.25, or a ~12% increase in dmg. Assuming you use element belt/gorget already its actual taking you from 2.2 to 2.45 Ftp, closer to a 10% increase in dmg.
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
You didn't look very hard at all. I posted it merely 7 pages back, in this very thread.
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
15 stp in coronoch;
4/4 recycles 22 stp
3/4 recycles 32 stp
2/4 recycles 42 stp
If you went with 10 stp in coronoch (losing the trip earring)
24 stp 4/4 recycles
34 stp 3/4 recycles
44 stp 2/4 recycles
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
You didn't look very hard at all. I posted it merely 7 pages back, in this very thread.
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
15 stp in coronoch;
4/4 recycles 22 stp
3/4 recycles 32 stp
2/4 recycles 42 stp
If you went with 10 stp in coronoch (losing the trip earring)
24 stp 4/4 recycles
34 stp 3/4 recycles
44 stp 2/4 recycles
Also, the Recycle augment can only proc on the first hit, and not on the second or third hit of Double Shot and Overkill. You may need to adjust your sTP to compensate in those situations.
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
You didn't look very hard at all. I posted it merely 7 pages back, in this very thread.
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
15 stp in coronoch;
4/4 recycles 22 stp
3/4 recycles 32 stp
2/4 recycles 42 stp
If you went with 10 stp in coronoch (losing the trip earring)
24 stp 4/4 recycles
34 stp 3/4 recycles
44 stp 2/4 recycles
Also, the Recycle augment can only proc on the first hit, and not on the second or third hit of Double Shot and Overkill. You may need to adjust your sTP to compensate in those situations.
Thank you XD I saw that but was unsure if the stp values had changed.
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
You didn't look very hard at all. I posted it merely 7 pages back, in this very thread.
Quetzalcoatl.Valli said: »
15 stp in coronoch;
4/4 recycles 22 stp
3/4 recycles 32 stp
2/4 recycles 42 stp
If you went with 10 stp in coronoch (losing the trip earring)
24 stp 4/4 recycles
34 stp 3/4 recycles
44 stp 2/4 recycles
Also, the Recycle augment can only proc on the first hit, and not on the second or third hit of Double Shot and Overkill. You may need to adjust your sTP to compensate in those situations.
Thank you XD I saw that but was unsure if the stp values had changed.
Yea, if you gear for a 2/4 recycle hits, and you get a WS or single shot that doesn't proc, followed by a double shot, you would be short on TP for your next weapon skill.
Bahamut.Snapshot said: »
I never tested mani hands. It was iuitl feet with snapshot vs legion. Pretty sure Mani are only 4%.
Odin.Ladyrikku said: »
Bahamut.Snapshot said: »
I never tested mani hands. It was iuitl feet with snapshot vs legion. Pretty sure Mani are only 4%.
I tested Kheper with +2 snapshot to only be 2%, so +3 should be tied with wurrukate for best.
Snapshot(player) was saying he tested Iuitl base to be +1=1% and for the augments to be +1=2%, implying that his Iuitl boots gave 6% reduction rather than 3%. Though he seems to have quit/taken a break on his profile page so I don't think we'll be seeing his numbers for that case anytime soon.
He sold his character
So, I'm basically brand new to RNG, not having played it since all the way before CoP was released. Does anybody have some starting sets that I should aim to work towards? Just hit 99, and currently running with a mix of iuitl and delve pieces.
I also have no idea how to use GS, so pre-cast and post-cast sets are somewhat confusing for me. If anybody has some advice for me, such as best AF pieces to reforge first or anything along those lines, I'd really appreciate it.
I also have no idea how to use GS, so pre-cast and post-cast sets are somewhat confusing for me. If anybody has some advice for me, such as best AF pieces to reforge first or anything along those lines, I'd really appreciate it.
Go for reforged relic hat first.
Then in no particular order:
-Relic+AF body (relic body is best TP body when you don't need sTP from Kyujutsugi)
-relic hands&feet (Both are very good for midshot, last stand and Coronach
-AF hands (barrage macro)
Edit:
Am tired so missed some things. AF feet are also useful for movement speed and scavenge macro. Will think of more things as I get less tired I'm sure.
Also, as far as precast goes, you'll want to use Empyrean Body/Hat, Iuitl hands, Nahtirah legs, either wurrukate feet or iuitl feet with snapshot augment, impulse belt and JSE cape (if you managed to get one augmented with snapshot from incursion)
Then in no particular order:
-Relic+AF body (relic body is best TP body when you don't need sTP from Kyujutsugi)
-relic hands&feet (Both are very good for midshot, last stand and Coronach
-AF hands (barrage macro)
Edit:
Am tired so missed some things. AF feet are also useful for movement speed and scavenge macro. Will think of more things as I get less tired I'm sure.
Also, as far as precast goes, you'll want to use Empyrean Body/Hat, Iuitl hands, Nahtirah legs, either wurrukate feet or iuitl feet with snapshot augment, impulse belt and JSE cape (if you managed to get one augmented with snapshot from incursion)
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
If you don't have Kyu or Trip earring, the store tp targets for lower Recycle procs are harder to reach (giving up 10 stp between those two slots) and you give up other stats to do it. I'll stick with my 3/4 4 hit. Occasionally I have to shoot an extra shot to get 100 tp. That's fine :)
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Anyone can help me with this I dont see
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
Rangers do... for Yoichi 4-hit, where you need a very large amount of store TP.
Sylph.Safiyyah said: »
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Anyone can help me with this I dont see why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
You mind showing me your sets?
Would like to see ws sets also. Coro/LS/WF
I 119 my relic gun last night so its for anni ^.^
Thank you in advance,
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Sylph.Safiyyah said: »
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
I've looked hard and can not get a clear answer on the stp needs to 4 hit relic gun. I would like to do it reliably without having to depend on so many recycle procs.
Bahamut.Samsonxiii said: »
Anyone can help me with this I dont see why Rng's do not use emp hands +2 for the stp +7 for Rng Tp set?
You mind showing me your sets?
Would like to see ws sets also. Coro/LS/WF
I 119 my relic gun last night so its for anni ^.^
Thank you in advance,
My sets won't help you, because I'm a relic bow ranger ;)
Anyone know base Range acc needed for AAHM on D or AAMR on D?
I am missing critical peices for my 4 hit.
I was able to get 33 stp in TP set and 15stp in Coro but I sit around 1005 Racc base without food. I have a feeling this is not enough.
Verdict?
I am missing critical peices for my 4 hit.
I was able to get 33 stp in TP set and 15stp in Coro but I sit around 1005 Racc base without food. I have a feeling this is not enough.
Verdict?
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