Power Rangers: A Guide To Pewing

Can you tell us why its better? That might help ppls decision instead of them doubting you.

I think most consider gun being "better" because you will parse higher when hate is an issue. Bow is more powerful, simply because Jishnu.

Is Arcadian jerkin/+1 for preshot a thing now?

Hasn't it been discussed to death?

Annihilator gives you a little more control over your Enmity thanks to Coronach and its Aftermath. A good Ranger should still have Enmity concerns in spite of that, so it is neither an instant iWin button nor a negligible benefit.

Other considerations tend to be situational. Yoichinoyumi allows one to stand further away, potentially outside of AoE range, which won't strictly show on a parse but, then again, nor does Enmity. On the other hand, if hate gets shaky or some consideration requires you to be in melee range, Annihilator is in a more beneficial place. If you're able to use a multi-attack weapon (is Kraken Club really viable on something like 5-star Ark Angel MR?), what ranged attacks you do use will benefit Annihilator more. On the other hand, Jishnu's Radiance spikes more damage. On the other other hand, Last Stand has a better and more gear-manageable stat mod than Jishnu's Radiance.

It all is more of a coin flip than anything. If it were me, I prefer the look of a bow and the flexibility of an item I can potentially use on two jobs (though Yoichinoyumi's place for Samurai is very changeable over time). In the long run, the benefits of Annihilator are probably more marginal than substantive.

The way they are claiming its better, makes it seem like its miles ahead. If you don't know why they are claiming that, please refrain from "hasn't it been discussed to death?" ^^

Wrong

The fact that they're playing the game of terse replies with no substance should be an indicator of how flimsy their argument is. Please refrain from the same pandering condescension you're objecting to. ^^

The only real fallback with Annihilator is the fact that the true shot sweet spot is at 5.0-6.0 distance, where with bows it's more like 13ish. So an Annihilator RNG barely ever sees "squarely" or "pummeling" messages. Other than that, Gun usually pulls ahead in longer fights due to Coronach's aftermath allowing your to go balls deep a lot more than Yoichi.

The only thing Yoichi has on Annihilator is it allows you to wear more R.Attk/STR on normal shots when AM is up.

Aside from that, it's preference really, you can be an annihilator RNG and have the best gear and still be a shitRNG compared to a yoichi RNG with crap gear, and vice versa.

So just pick which one fits your style, and as long as you put some real effort into paying attention to when you can /ra again, and get your macro timing down, and really learn the limitations of your emnity, you'll do just fine.

What's wrong? A 117 bow can outparse Anni on boulder reives. Yoichi will more than likely double Anni output if bow is 100% Jishnu.

Boulders arn't exactly a good mob to test on. On Very difficult content, Coronach is Slightly weaker, and possibly stronger depending on buffs than Jishnu. Namas is really far behind that. A two hit last stand is just as good as a JR unless you're getting outside crit buffs. (this is on on VD content only). Guns ability to easily hitbuild and WS much more often (hi2u ammo delay update) allows it to crush Yoichi.

If you are a career ranger, make the gun its much much stronger.

If you like sam AND ranger, make the bow.

I think the first step is to ask both a relic gun and relic bow owner their opinion. I think its wrong for 50 post noobs like Killkenny to provide his opinion on a relic he has not owned or played with.

Play rng to the extreme and attempt to pull as much hate as possible. Shoot like you want to wipe an 18 man Divine Might 2.0 alliance. For those situations, make an annihilator.

If you want to use a relic on two jobs, make a bow.

Have a great weekend everyone!

what update is this?

4 hit and good enough hit rate is easy as *** on bow too now and I'm still lacking dm gear.

Only ranged weapons' (not ammunition) delay account for the aiming delay (actual delay).
There's additional ~1 second overhead delay after aiming to shoot phase.<this used to be calculated based on ammunition delay.

Dunno about the jerkin, but arcadian socks/arcadian socks +1 have a good amount of Rapid Shot on them.

With courser's roll a full snapshot set should still win. however I've been to lazy to remath rapid vs snapshot sets.

Wasn't a static 2.5sec for all weapon? Never knew it was based on delay of the ammo

Any time, Do an AA or DM with me. you'll lose the parse. Just sayin.

You're missing the point. I stated Gun is considered better in hate issues, which given, is most content in game. Bow is more powerful due to its weapons skill access. A simple way to prove that point, would be reive boulders.

With that said, most of the time gun rangers will win parse because bow ranger has to hold back. So yea, most AA's you would win Grey. By maybe 5-10%. I'm ok with that. My bow cost 2M.

I'm team bow but you'll lose by more than 10% to anni w/o yoichi w.w

Bolded is incorrect. JR will usually double LS damage. It should, anyway.

Most might.

Idk.. I know the AA fights brought every derpy RNG out of the woodwork, but every parse I usually win 55ish% to 12% and around 18% against bow RNG's. Not saying you'd be in that 12-18% but I've never dipped below 50% except on TT, I was using Eminent bow and /nin.

My ls has like 8-9 Annihilator rngs and we were doing VD DM every week up until we capped out on drops, so I've played with them plenty. This is completely irrelevant though because I'm not talking about personal experiences which you seem to be fixated on.

I also have bow and not gun, so if anything my bias should be towards bow. Gun still wins.


Hilarious

Psssh 4K+ JR on VD AA is easy!

On Spreadsheet I have bow winning when it can use jishu and gun winning when it's coro only; both are close on it.

For Kraken, I don't have anything coming close to eminent bow.

Don't cherrypick the quote. I Stated Very difficult content. You shouldn't be bringing a ranger to anything that is melee viable or doesn't have insane evasion (due to rangers being able to garner 200+ RACC over a a Full acc melee set.

Thus, on relevent content for rangers, Gun dominates bow, Jishnu's just makes the gap not wtf massive.

As an anecdotal example (which doesn't mean too much) but when one of our rangers switched from Bow to gun, his dps jumped dramatically. Also a bow ranger has never ever come close to our top two or three gun rangers, even in situations that really favor bow (SAM roll or Rogue's roll, in pt with the Carn bard who got SV reset vs no reset or carn). Decoy shot is up for such a large amount of time during these fights, you should be using Jishnu most of the time anyways.

Jishnu averages probably 2300-2500 on VD content. Last stand is around 2300 with coronach 2000-2200 (pretty easily as long as buffs don't fall).

Situations where ranger is more viable over a Melee strategy, Gun is superior.

On weaker content, Yoichi will probably win by about the same amount gun does on difficult content. But it would still be tough to beat out a strong melee (aka mythics) on something that isn't weak to piercing

And of course as ccl said, Kclub is really where Bow (eminence) shines. But thats only viable on foddery mobs.

On another note even with courser's roll (Assuming its ~13% snap)
A full Rapid shot is about 6 effective delay lower than a full snapshot set. unless I drunk-mathed incorrectly. (very possible)

When you take away outside sources of snapshot, its a decent amount of delay faster.

This guy isn't lying. The annihilator RNGs always out-parse the bow guys. While I can drop almost 4K JR with my eminent bow, I can't process "occ. 3x dmg" or land sick barrages like the Annihilator crowd. Maybe I'm a derp RNG but I haven't seen Grey or our other Annihilator ppl out-shined during AA/DM

Forgive me for stepping in at the wrong time but I'm just now taking up RNG. For strictly AH/Delve weapons is there anything that stands out? I'm thinking Illapa has some good stats and utility but would I be better off with the AH Bow/Gun?

Didn't mean to derail the Anni vs Yoichi discussion but I appreciate the input ^^