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Power Rangers: A Guide to Pewing
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-15 06:11:26
It's more a question of base damage at the moment. Delve gun has higher base damage than bow (counting bullets/arrows), same delay, and generates more TP per hit. It also has access to a more powerful weapon skill (last stand). There's absolutely no reason to use a bow at the moment. I'm speaking as an echidna/donderbuss owner.
Note that the sweet spot itself for all ranged weapons is the same. The only thing that's different is distance from the mob.
By Yandaime 2013-08-15 12:48:46
It's more a question of base damage at the moment. Delve gun has higher base damage than bow (counting bullets/arrows), same delay, and generates more TP per hit. It also has access to a more powerful weapon skill (last stand). There's absolutely no reason to use a bow at the moment. I'm speaking as an echidna/donderbuss owner.
Note that the sweet spot itself for all ranged weapons is the same. The only thing that's different is distance from the mob.
Cool, thanks for the input. I was a bow guy a long time ago in a galaxy far far away... But after looking at how strong the Gun is vs Bow... yea... Gonna get into the FPS fashion lol
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-17 16:56:43
Okay, all sets should be fully up to date, except for some less-relevant ones such as JR. I also added a TP value section to equipment so you can see how much TP each weapon generates (to determine necessary store TP).
edit: Actually store TP values (posted underneath the sets) are off in some of the sets. Just disregard what the # is I posted for now. The sets themselves are fine.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-19 16:27:59
Skirmish gear looks really easy to get, especially piece(s) for RNG. The feet are really the only standout piece, however, iuitl body is very very slightly ahead of kheper (NQ) if pDIF is capped. Khepri is still best. Iuitl body beats mani R15 agility also, assuming pDIF cap. Of course, if pDIF is not capped, caban is your best option.
pDIF capped -> Khepri or Iuitl
uncapped -> Caban
Just be aware, removing caban from last stand set could uncap you. Barring augments, iuitl has almost no additional ranged attack (only 7 str difference).
Totally forgot to mention this is for last stand.
Edit:
Actually the iuitl wristbands are good when pDIF is capped. They are inferior to sigyn's otherwise. They are also the best coronach piece (if anyone is still using annihilator).
Edit2:
Looks like iuitl can get recycle, snapshot, ranged attack, and ranged accuracy on them. Snapshot on the hands would be great. Ranged attack would be best on feet, body, and hands (they're not rare!).
By kenshynofshiva 2013-08-21 09:51:14
iuitl feet I got 9 ratk and -3% pdt loving those feet...
Bahamut.Thundro
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By Bahamut.Thundro 2013-08-22 17:22:12
Helel can you eventually post your Barrage set or is it really just your full acc set + barrage pieces
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-22 18:38:56
Okay, I added a general barrage set. It's catered mainly to gun, but I believe it should work well for everything.
I need to make EES set as well.
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By Phoenix.Suji 2013-08-22 18:48:31
Also, because of the way barrage's accuracy works (see: Barrage in JA section), the barrage +1 gear is actually not as useful as you would think, so don't feel like you absolutely have to use it. It's very rare to land every shot. Am I missing something or isn't it still a 63% chance to land all 9 hits (assuming 7 base at 99 + 2 from gear)? So you're looking at a potential 28% damage boost 63% of the time, or about 17% average, right? That's not accounting for the 5/11 update which should make it even more likely.
By kenshynofshiva 2013-08-23 14:21:40
If your using the old rng spreadsheet had a bug for the new CS and has been fixed:
Motenten;5859266 said: Rng fixed.
I thought my gear was racc overkill lol 205% on tojil doh....
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-25 17:26:51
Also, because of the way barrage's accuracy works (see: Barrage in JA section), the barrage +1 gear is actually not as useful as you would think, so don't feel like you absolutely have to use it. It's very rare to land every shot. Am I missing something or isn't it still a 63% chance to land all 9 hits (assuming 7 base at 99 + 2 from gear)? So you're looking at a potential 28% damage boost 63% of the time, or about 17% average, right? That's not accounting for the 5/11 update which should make it even more likely.
You're correct. I was doing the math wrong. I didn't think it was simply 95^9 due to barrage accuracy, but it should be. The only thing that changes is the likelihood of missing each individual shot.
That said, accuracy is extremely important, so it's definitely worth using accuracy gear over barrage +1 gear if needed. Dropping from 95% to 94% brings you down to 57% chance of landing all 9 shots.
More skirmish gear insight:
Snapshot on the hands obviously (snapshot on top of snapshot!). I've gotten +2 so far. Supposedly it goes to +3, but I haven't seen it myself. I've gotten +1 snapshot with a +2 stone, so +3 seems somewhat unlikely? Please post if you've gotten +3 snapshot so I don't waste my gilz.
Ranged attack on the feet/body. I tested body out last night without ranged attack and it's just barely under caban +2. About ~20 damage difference. It's worth using body full-time I believe, if you can get ranged attack on it, though it's hard to say how caban +2 performs with full buffs. Feet are a no-brainer.
That should be it for RNG, feet/hands/body.
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By fractalvoid 2013-08-25 17:41:55
Snapshot on the hands obviously (snapshot on top of snapshot!). I've gotten +2 so far. Supposedly it goes to +3, but I haven't seen it myself. I've gotten +1 snapshot with a +2 stone, so +3 seems somewhat unlikely? Please post if you've gotten +3 snapshot so I don't waste my gilz.
do we know what the base snapshot is on these?
RNG can only get 4%~ on hands atm (max bfg aug or mani hands) correct? So guess it would only need to be 2-3% base to better
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-08-25 19:13:43
i've only seen snapshot +1/+2 on pieces so far, and got recycle+1 on body.
Getting snap +3 would be nice but I havent seen it. I wouldnt drop any serious gil on chasing +3snap when iLevel 120 is the gear cap and this gear is iLevel 113.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-25 20:04:25
Snapshot on the hands obviously (snapshot on top of snapshot!). I've gotten +2 so far. Supposedly it goes to +3, but I haven't seen it myself. I've gotten +1 snapshot with a +2 stone, so +3 seems somewhat unlikely? Please post if you've gotten +3 snapshot so I don't waste my gilz.
do we know what the base snapshot is on these?
RNG can only get 4%~ on hands atm (max bfg aug or mani hands) correct? So guess it would only need to be 2-3% base to better
That's correct, though it's actually 8% since snapshot +1 usually translates to -2% delay.
With iuitl wristbands + snapshot augment, the lower delay is actually somewhat noticeable with donderbuss. It seems to be pretty big boost.
i've only seen snapshot +1/+2 on pieces so far, and got recycle+1 on body.
Getting snap +3 would be nice but I havent seen it. I wouldnt drop any serious gil on chasing +3snap when iLevel 120 is the gear cap and this gear is iLevel 113.
That's true, but there's no guarantee that the ilvl 119 hands will have snapshot on them. I mean, it's not like the whirlpool mask is very useful for RNG, and it's ilvl 119.
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By Siren.Blackroses 2013-08-27 13:44:33
Hi Helel,
I would like to know what's current hierarchy for hands both for gun TP and WS. Stupid Idi's Gloves dont want to drop for me, and im curently using Iuitl over Scout's +2.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-27 15:05:16
Scout's are definitely better than iuitl for TP. For last stand I'd use iuitl. Not sure if there's another weapon skill you were asking about.
By kenshynofshiva 2013-08-27 15:15:40
Scout's are definitely better than iuitl for TP. For last stand I'd use iuitl. Not sure if there's another weapon skill you were asking about.
Yall taking head? Cant be feet right.
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By Siren.Blackroses 2013-08-27 15:22:41
Not sure if there's another weapon skill you were asking about.
And for Coro?
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-27 22:23:59
Scout's are definitely better than iuitl for TP. For last stand I'd use iuitl. Not sure if there's another weapon skill you were asking about.
Yall taking head? Cant be feet right.
He asked about hands.
Not sure if there's another weapon skill you were asking about.
And for Coro?
The last stand/coronach sets on the front page are correct. Iuitl hands are best. Sigyn's is better for last stand if pDIF not capped, but I wouldn't use scout's over iuitl.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-08-28 16:39:26
Changed the formatting around for TP gear so it's easier to determine 'best' sets for any given weapon.
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By Bismarck.Gloryseeker 2013-09-02 22:35:29
crit rate +2 on iuitl feet
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-09-06 19:55:20
Anyone find if Iuitl Snapshot >=< Mani.hands yet? I've been assuming they're the same since both are iLvl.113 and I couldn't eyeball a difference from timestamp. Atm been using Iuitl for preshot to save inventory.
By Keymon 2013-09-16 00:30:01
How does an Eagle Eye Shot set look like now with skirmish gear?
Bahamut.Devlon
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By Bahamut.Devlon 2013-09-27 15:25:07
I use gun in fracture, but wanted to know which archery WSs pull out best in Ceizak? I haven't got the chance to play with it yet.
By Brynach 2013-09-30 11:17:32
I dont have a SS, and I am still working on EES set, but I hit 12k EES on bee using Echidna's bow and adlivun arrows. The set I used is pretty much the Namas arrow set from Helel's original post.
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-10-11 07:16:08
Sorry for the noob question but what path do you take with the plasm dagger?
Obviously it's between STR and AGI. I was assuming the STR path since you can get AGI on the gun but wasn't sure if an extra 10 AGI wins over 10 STR in the long run.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Edit: btw great guide Helel.
By fractalvoid 2013-10-11 09:01:10
STR path is optimal for dagger since it's harder to cap fSTR2 on newer content.
By Brynach 2013-10-11 10:17:15
Typically Apex is gonna be your dmg dealing ws for archery, unless for some reason you have, in my experience, hit a full 10-shot barrage and have over 200+ tp then a good refulgent can do very high 7k+ dmg.
Asura.Kormak
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By Asura.Kormak 2013-10-15 20:01:28
Any Reason I should be missing 3/5 Barrages on Dens in skirmish with this set. (Capped Makrsmanship skill)
head "Sct. Beret +2"
neck "Ocachi Gorget"
ear1 "Clearview Earring"
ear2 "Volley Earring";
body "Sylvan Caban +2"
legs "Thurandaut tights"
feet "Iuitl Gaiters"
waist "Elanid Belt"
back "Sylvan Chlamys"
ring1 "Rajas Ring"
ring2 "Hajduk Ring"
hands "Iuitl Wristrbands"
After first 3 whiffed popped a squid sushi but didnt notice much of a difference, hit the 4th one but only 2-3 shots landed. Was at 6 yalms using surefire acc path R15.
Im just a bit puzzled, should i be using 2 x Hajduk?
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-10-15 20:10:51
if you miss the first hit, it won't fire the rest. just bad luck
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By Quetzalcoatl.Glecent 2013-10-24 01:36:43
Thoughts on this for a new Jishnu's Radiance build?
ItemSet 207975
Having trouble deciding between Manibozho Brais and Nahtirah Trousers. Roughly 6 mod vs 34.5 attack. Depends on buffs as always I guess.
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