New Xbox Generation Revealed 21st May At 6pm.

Swear words in it. Darn.

Seeing as how a new game costs $60 on PS3, and will probably be higher than that for PS4, if Sony does the same, I probably won't get one. But that's fine, I'm more into FF games, and the better of those were on PSX.

There hasn't been any indication that games will cost more...but that's becoming moot since so many games have paid DLC.

About how much did new PS2 games cost before PS3 came out? I seem to remember PSX games at about $25~

Seeing as (I believe) with the PS3/360 games... prices raised by what... $10? It makes sense that the next gen games would get a markup... now of course they might now ... but ... dunno hasn't been much said on that front yet.

The used game fee though... yeah uh ... no no no no no MS... BAD...


They're going to have to pull a miracle out of their *** at E3 to recover from this piss poor presentation.

I agree with at least part of this sentiment.

To be fair: games really haven't kept up with inflation.

What's changed for most people is that the games don't hold the same replay value. People get a game, beat it asap, hawk it and get a fraction of what they paid for it.

There are a few things I look down on, these days and they all have to do with leaving someone unemployed. Automated robo calls, Automated assembly line robots, and replacing an entire specialty shop with an online store. If MS and/or Sony does try to "phase out retailers" those are people losing jobs. In my line of work, being seasonal work with extended periods of NO income, I'm against "phasing out" anything the removes the human element, because I know what it's like to have no money and be unable to do anything about it.

Wouldn't there still have to be people working? I mean to keep the online store running. making sure the servers don't crash, etc? Also Steam has phased out a decent portion of pc games being sold as hard copies. I do prefer digital though. Edit: Also it's because I hate gamestop. A huge corporation that really doesn't care about its employees at all, and I will not support them.

I don't think Sony will try and phase out retailers anytime soon. But I do think they will try to get people to buy from their online store over retailers. Though retailers will still be an option.

Though I do see MS allowing online trading and their new Xbucks as a way to phase out Gamestop and make profit for themselves.

I love having my games digitally, but there's a certain ... feeling I guess... from owning it physically ... not only can you bring it over to a friends house to play (or let them borrow...) it's nice in case a system breaks... you don't have to deal with restoring games and that BS.

I wouldn't think an online store would have as many people working it.

Ya I get that. My slim ps3 had that issue with updating to 4.40 and froze. So I was worried I would have to wipe the HDD and have to redownload all my games. Though luckily I have a spare HDD and was about to do that workaround trick. So that would suck.

ROFLMAO

Xbox One Won't Support Current Headsets

This is a dealbreaker for me, if it turns out to be true, I won't even look at the Xbox One. I have my 2012 Astro A30s that I take good care of and they work perfectly. They also cost 150 bucks and to me they are worth it. Durable, long lasting headsets that don't snap in two on a whim. There is no reason for me to replace them since they work for my PC, Xbox and PS3 and I use them pretty much everyday. Goodbye Microsoft.

This is the biggest problem I have right now. The whole reason PS3 games went up in price over 2 was because they used the blu-ray disk which at the time as more expensive then DVD by quite a bit. Thy even said as technology becomes easier to access prices will eventually go down a little. This never happened and it cost me just as much to buy it from them online as it does to buy a physical disk which comes with a manual(theirs doesn't), worthless but I like collecting them, No packaging at all, cheaper to create cover art and no disc cost. All of this together should take about $20 off the price of a game if I download it. However that's not the case right now and we know Microsoft wont lower the prices.a PSP go game on the network costed just as much brand new as it did for me to go buy it from the store this irritated me greatly when I bought Dissidia 2 expecting to pay at least $5 less due a next to no cost to send me the file vs shipping, art work, paper/color, disk.

Xbox one

http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/psn-to-offer-retail-games-cheaper-on-day-one/1100-4386/

read this if you don't understand why generally digital games are the same price as retail stores.

I'm one of the biggest supporters of piracy now (verbally speaking). I wasn't 3 years ago...

People will believe what they want about that though, let them.

I fully support pirating EA games.

US laws, may not yet but are about too, the Tax is the same and based on the state you are in and not the state your ordering/paying from to prevent people from bypassing taxes or getting a better rate, As well the US gov. does go after people who use this to their advantage. We most commonly see it with tobacco products.

Not wanting to hurt retail partnerships is a poor excuse because unless sony did it purely to take customers from them(like the 1st day/preorder discount that they did is). That article gave me no valid reasons. Just an excuse to charge you more for less. In fact Sony doing the sameday/prerelease deal actually steal customers from there partners and creates a competition. Where as if it is known that digital copies are cheaper by even $5 bucks people will just have the decision, hard copy or not. This is one of the reason the Indy gaming companies are gaining so much strength among the gaming giants they don't worry about this. For the first time in like 9 years everyone is talking about PC gaming and more games are being released on PC in a reasonable time frame instead of waiting for halo 2 to come out on xbox at the same time waiting for halo 1 on PC(the better game anyway).
I do know that production cost have gone up on the games which i'm fine with it and why I don't care that they are still $60 for a Hard Copy.

I laughed so hard I had to go sit on the toilet.

Jim Sterling brought up a good point with the Microsoft unveiling.


At first I thought what anyone who is a little too optimistic would think, They're showing off the stupid ***now because E3 is right around the corner.

But who really was tuning in and showing up to the XboxOne unveiling? Was it Dudebro Mc.Raisedtruck wanting an easier way to manage their Fantasy Football? Was it that one *** who has enough money to buy a Smart TV and and XboxOne just to build in some redundancy to his living room? Was it the one Fanfic writer who messed his/her trousers over a Halo TV series announcement?

My guess is it was the gamers who've been dying to see this hardware cycle end for like 3 (inb4 PC elitists: outdated hardware in 2006) years now. So I'm having a real hard time reconciling that observation with the presentation as of late.

I really hope Microsoft doesn't expect Gamerscore to float the gamers over to the next-gen unless they have some ***-and-lasers awesome exclusives at launch. Then again, Call of Duty: Dog. amirite?

The difference is simple, Xbox live is potentially charging me to access something I am either already paying someone else for, or don't normally have to pay for anyway.

I pay my ISP for the internet. If I subscribe to say, Netflix I pay them for their service. If I want to watch Netflix on the Xbox, i then pay xbox again for thing's i'm already paying others for. The same goes for FFXI - I pay my ISP, and SE, and now Microsoft will want a cut? No thanks, this is why I don't use an Xbox for the internet, and stick to offline gaming on the machine, and use my PS3 or PC for online things. Now however, they will want an always on connection, and force a subscription to Xbox Live?! What they are essentially saying is "Please pay us £400(guessing release price) for the console, and another 10% (£40) per year for the life of the console."

But again, it's a hardware reveal. I swear I have no idea what people were thinking. Plus this wasn't just for gamers to watch and gawk at, it's also for journalists and investors, just saying that too, it wasn't even open to the general public.

I mean, did you watch the PS4 announcement? it was basically SHARING, SHARING, SHARING, SHARING, CONTROLLER, ANNOUNCING SEQUELS NO ONE CARES ABOUT, YEAR OLD TECH DEMOS, PEACE WE OUT. Did you seriously think this would be different? I might be showing my age here, but did you see the PS3 and 360 unveiling? pretty much same stuff.

were people expecting a Halo 5 Let's play or something? Personally I would have been disapointed if they did blow their load on this when there is an event that is 20 times bigger thats happening in 2 weeks.

Well, at the end of the day it does come down to the games. (if you're a gamer anyway)

But MS's direction just isn't one I find appealing. They never hid the fact that gamers were basically a stepping stone on the way to "Controlling the Living Room", but it's still funny how out of touch the company can be with technology.

My question is who was the XboxOne really aimed at? Because when you remove gamers, you are left with an audience that already has superior options. By the look of things, the investors were thinking the same thing.

Microsoft's new motto:
Shooting ourselves in the foot isn't good enough. We're going for a self headshot! :D

I wouldn't go that far. If I could liken the XboxOne with anything, it'd be President Obama. The promise of hope for a new generation, but ultimately unimpressive while barely evading any truly fatal mistakes.