Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

I've stopped looking at this as a way for them to keep you happy and started looking at it from a what benefits the company more angle. Clearly if you think they care about your anger over the anger of their shareholders or who is in charge then you are delusional. SE is going to do what is best for the company. Maintaining a 10+ year old game that has slowly dwindled in player base over the years when they have a shiney new toy is not in their best interest.

Laughed at this way more than I should have.

This kinda doesn't make much sense. HMP is/was one of the major reasons people still do/did voidwatch at all, on bismarck at least.

If the demand for hmp increases again, and the price rises, people will continue to do VW just to sell the plates.

Make it a subcategory of something players can do. Much of the griping has come from R/M/Es being obsolete so let players more readily 99 them in the meantime while they're "bad" until SE makes them "good".

Good players will walk into SEs reward buff with updated weapons using the current things to tide them over and whiners will continue to whine as they always have.

Plates pouches should drop on other nms other than t3 zilarts.

It's easier than old dynamis; very much less planning and coordination required. Not as easy as new dynamis; as it does require other people to participate.

Either way, people do these targeting specific items, while the rest are useless to them. The cost/benefit of doing either is up to the individual, or course, but I think it's just fine.


This would be pretty welcome, if only for the sake of variety.

Qilin>> Ih8u

Oh God I hope not. People have jobs and families now. The whole "FFXI is like a second fulltime job" mentality has been pretty much dead for years because players left it behind on purpose.

The last thing this game needs now with it's dropping player base is to force content that makes people resort to mandatory ls events and farming 6 days out of 7 with a "free day" once a week where you actually get to enjoy the game or just not log in for 24 hours.

The old days can rot for all I care, I get that things have to change and new stuff has to come out that improves on old gear. But that doesn't mean that we start releasing gear with STR+723 on it either. There had to be a middle ground that SE tripped right over while making up some of these stats.

Please!
And with with the same drop rate as single HMP pieces!
Am I asking too much?!

Actually I think I am.

VW is dead on our server and if a shout forms it takes forever, vw remains a pretty terrible way to make gil/hr. I dont think anything short of plates spiking back up to 100k+ each would increase participation.

The supply is so scarce that I think people will remain too afraid to invest gil in the items for the 95+99 stages and then sit on them until we see what the post-99 path on empyreans is.
I'd love to 99 my armageddon if it has a decent upgrade path with their upcoming system. Right now it feels risky taking it past 90 given the ridiculous new weapons theyve been adding.

Dynamis money is all under 5k now, plates are 65k, and I bought a ton of alex for 8k ea this morning. Confidence in making R/M/E is at an all time low right now.

They could just reskin salvage for a 3rd time and replace cotton pouches with plates, linen purses with heavy metal plate pouches, and single alexandrites with logs.

There are still a few r/m that are worth the effort. Aegis and Burtgang are well worth the time and effort as they push PLD beyond the cap limits. Other weapons have uses for other jobs still. Apoc for DRK is still viable as a way to be self sustained. Sure it's not top notch but it still serves its purpose. The new gun is by far going to out damage my 99 anni but it isn't going to be able to shoot a coranach for -emnity.

Aegis could still be worth it, Burtgang would probably mean your DDs would have to gimp the *** out of themselves to let you hold hate with these new weapons. Then again Idk how the damage/ability split on enmity is anymore since the update to it so I could be wrong.

I remember a time when the battle relied upon steady/controlled damage. And if it got out of control then people wiped or made the battle much more troublesome than it needed to be. I think this was called Strategy. It is something that has been absent from the game for a while and I welcome it back with open arms and smiles.

I think Atonement has made a comeback.

There is no point in a strategy that makes things longer or more difficult. If the new swords allow your damage dealers to do more damage with out pulling hate and do not put your survivability at risk then using burtgang to turtle would be an inferior strategy to using them to deal more damage and thus generate more hate.

QFT (same server), even Qilins can take 20 mins to put together (not being a smartass) and you never see anything else anymore. I've joined gaunab only to afk for an hour while people try and find only 6 or 8 people in the group.

I saw a shout the other day for jeuno t2 clear that said "all will be weakener'd"

Even if plates dropped off everything, people would still only hit the easy NMs as choice. They'd still rather do Qilin than Kalasutrax or mini-DL (in dunes).

Unless the upgrade on 99 emps worth it there will be no more reason to do VW and with the shitty drop rate that would just mean the and of the emps.

You know the cliché where the shop owner buys an insurance policy, lights the store up, and skips town?

SE makes XIII
SE makes XIV
SE releases XIII-2
SE remodels XIV the first time
Tanaka *moves on* aka rats leaving sinking ship
A Realm (company) re-born (third attempt at bankruptcy)begins beta because "pimp my riding" a 4 year old game is totally smarter than just starting over
CEO fired

Now, if your company was in financial turmoil. Like.... if you were 1 more "lightning re-re-returns" away from being the Japanese EA, you think you'd just do what the people want and bank a couple dollars to save money, right? Get back on your feet?

NO, *** THAT! WE'RE GOING TO MAKE AS MANY WAVES AS POSSIBLE! At this point I think SE deserves to go under. I've been rose-colored glasses'ing everything since FF8 remembering the good times with SNES era Squaresoft. It's time to put her down. The gaming world needs this before we get FF7 DS-VITA:REHASH with bonus content for dancing on the corpse of their original thoughts from 10 years ago (or their awful thoughts from 3 years ago).

***' Obama

This is all dependent on the content. I can't say that turtling is or isn't going to be the best way as I've not experienced Delve yet. Just saying that mind numbingly smacking an NM with auto-reraise isn't a realistic or fun way to play. And any strategy that doesn't involve it is one that i'm in favor of.

When they said buff R/M/E,didnt they say they'd make them relevant again? Not make them top?

People seem to forget this

Quiznor you trying to stir up trouble in my topic? :|

I'll stir you both up

Lock the purple, make all the bad men go away ; ;

I could easily do that if I wanted to and you know it!


I dont swing that way ash ;-;

I'm not disagreeing with you there but while angry zergs might not be fun it is just another form of strategy. As a base your strategy should always allow you to win the fight as quickly as possible while minimizing the risk to yourself. Sometimes this involves a zerg, either from the start, from a certain point or between 2 points if the mob goes through phases. In which case trading survivability for damage on pld could be worth it to generate extra hate and keep it a bit longer through said zerg.

What is even less fun than a zerg to me is DDs engaging only to WS, barring a difference in gear a tank should be able to hold hate with out their DDs having to cut their damage in half.

It's not about people with perle/teal/aurora. They'll certainly be able to farm Bayld gear with the new weapons (they can already do it without them). I don't know how it is on your server, Dyna/VW/Abyssea/Salvage/NNI are all dead on my server. Shouts take forever to form for clears, currency prices have plummeted, etc. Why would someone sit in a VW clear for hours just to clear it, or spend forever trying to get people together for their Aby +2s/ZB clears when they can buy a 200+ DMG weapon and go to town on Bayld gear? If they farm Bayld, they can get into Wildskeepers as well because there's no barrier for entry other than having your own KI. As long as you survive at the end you can leech and get drops just like the people that did all the work to get "proper" gear previously.

I'm stuck in the middle on all of this, to be honest. I just came back, and as a fairly casual player, I'm almost "finished" with all my Aby gear (with 90 Emp being all that remains). I've only just started working on VW clears and farming currency for Kikoku as well, and the well has nearly dried up on both of those. Even now, knowing that REM updates should be down the pipeline and wanting to continue work on both weapons to be prepared for that, I'm largely out of luck because demand for both has plummeted and even the gear rewards are somewhat suspect now in terms of effort/time, so no one is doing the content needed to put the upgrade items in the economy.

The whole machine worked because everyone needed Abyssea/VW/Dyna/Salvage for weapons as well as gear, which meant both the high end players and lower end folks were doing all the events. Now, the higher end players have no real reason to do anything except for SoA content, which means newer players who, according to you, should still have to do the older content, will have a pool of fewer and fewer players to draw from to actually *do* that content.

BG is credible?

EDIT : We might be a little butthurt, but, surely it just messes up DMG per level on any weapon until 99 etc

For example, most swords around 90-99 have around 55~70ish DMG on them at the moment. Then it just skyrockets with Buramenk'ah sitting at 130 DMG let alone the other god like stats on it.

I'm all for new content, but it just seems like the gap between current weapons at the moment whether they are R/M/E or not and these newly added ones leave a huge gap.

I don't know if they'll overhaul everything but if you understand what I'm trying to say, just seems like 90% of current weapons won't even come close