Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

This is pretty much how I handled any squiggles:

oh god this thread

And thus, the "Ballad of Pleebo" was born.

And it will never die.

THE BALLAD OF PLEEBO SHALL BE SUNG THROUGHOUT THE AGES, WHEREAS IF THERE ARE THREADS THAT WILL BE FOREVER CONTINUOUS, SO SHALL BE THIS SONG.

New meme, aaaaaand go.

Matsui is crowding our inventory with these now useless Empys. His grand scheme is to force us to buy a secretly soon to be released security token for our IOS device security token apps, which comes with an in game Moblin Mini-Van (+10 to all current storage units and allows you to access all storage from anywhere). Throwing away my Empys to make inventory space and defeat his evil plot.

Careful, he may explode.

I think i have been seeing one guy on the Phoenix server do shouts for Qilin (heavy metal plates) which doesnt seem to fill up quick at all... anyone have any idea if they possibly plan to have HMP's drop from something that people still do? I think i have 140 plates for my kannagi, so i need another 1360 for that... and if i want an Ochain... the game may end well before i get enough.

JUST UPGRADE RELIC SOON COUSE PPL ARE ALREADY TIRED TO DO DELVE..

I am working on an Aegis shield now... this coming monday i will get it back as the "Dynamis Shield" from teh Goblin.

I really am starting to think that this move to the newer weapons and the pause on upgrading the R/M/E Weapons is an attempt to reset the gap between players.

I for one can attest to the challenges facing returning players, and if you suddenly make the top weapons easily available, you have leveled the playing field immensely and brought more 'retired' players back.

The game is on the verge of dying so this expansions is a chance for them to have events where a wide range of players can participate.

It also allows SE to bridge the gap between today and FXIV ARR being released.

Finally, SE has the one ace up the sleeve that is the bottom line: they know 99 R/M/E Weapon holders are addicts and will be here no matter what. It is the casual gamers that were dwindling that they are attracting back with this development. Money talks, and letting casual gamers know that their are weapons out there that they can obtain and be able to do content (I know, it sounds silly actually allowing players to be included in events) will mean subscription renewals.

The more this thread and complaints are made by 'elite' gamers about the leveling out of the playing field, the more SE gets the word out to casual gamers.

If the game was on the verge of dying i highly doubt they would have bothered to make a new expansion with 2 new jobs and a bunch of content that is updated.

Square is making money off of us... which is fine as i am still very much enjoying my time in vana'diel. The linkshell i am in has been growing at a decent rate with returning players and even a few new ones. Heck... i started playing for the first time Jan of 2011.

back on main page!

But for how long?

till i go to work at least

Hey kids we can finish empy in 2 days!



Got all kinds of time!

Nope, active player barely increase after delve came out if you do /sea all on my server. It went up after SoA released, but now almost dropped back to pre-SoA. Around 1.4k on PST time weekdays, 2k on weekend.... which is lower than April, although it's a bit higher than 2013 Jan~March.


If I see 3k~4k players around, I'd agree with you that it's an effective strategy, but from what I've seen, it barely makes a difference.

Also, complaints aren't made by "elite" gamers. It's mainly made by middle class players. Elite players make relic/mythic in 1 month easily, and it makes little to no impact to them. Those who complained are mostly middle class players that still need months or even years to farm a 99 R/E/M, and they already spent months/years to get one, only got face slapped. You also overestimate FFXI addict's tolerance, just because you're an addict, doesn't mean you can tolerate everything.

I'm pretty sure I'd cancel my account if SE tell me "We're not buffing R/E/M because we don' want the concept of legendary weapon anymore", no point to keep playing if legendary weapon/epic long term goal doesn't exist. But they did send out more info about buffing it, so I stayed to see what happen next. That doesn't mean I'd just toss another 50M 100M 200M on w/e weapon coming next....lesson learned.

You are playing a MMORPG. You are playing the MMORPG that is KNOWN for enforcing cooperation and epic grinds. No, it's not SE's fault. It's your fault for even buying this game, let alone continuing to subscribe.


I'm sorry, but pulling the RL card is never a good idea; especially when your RL card is so weak. Oh teh noes, I has RL. I have a job too. And a wife. And a few car payments. Oh a mortgage. I like beer. I'll also guarantee that I've spent more time working on REM weapons than you have. And the ones that I have that aren't 99? I absolutely do not expect SE to throw me any bones here, knowing that they were incomplete long before Adoulin was even released.


No. They were transitional to the ultimate goal of lv.99. The only reason they were good at any point in time was, oh oh oh, there wasn't such a thing as Lv.99. Or 95 even for that matter, when the weapons were introduced. SE never went back to 'upgrade' them, why the hell should they do so now?

You can even look at Delve plasm weapons right now in the same way. SE envisions them as transitional weapons. They're still good, but your ultimate goal will be the Fracture boss weapons.


Have you actually done a coin weapon? No? STFU. The only difference in trials is literally the last two, and since you were too lazy to upgrade from Lv.85, a Lv.99 coin weapon would've taken WAY more effort than your stuff. Byrth's suggestion about trading in non-99 Empy weapons for the WS is something I support, however.


Yes. You are right. I have 3 Lv.99 relics, and only 1 Lv.90 empy. I'm not mad. I *was* mad with Matsui's original response, but now that it's been retracted with a sneak peek at something much more reasonable, I'm fine.

However, we 'elitists' with Lv.99 REMs are indeed looking at whiney kids like you who think they're entitled to something when they haven't even finished what they started. You want your Empyreans to be relevant? Finish them first.


Odd, my linkshell members have 99'd about 5 empyreans by themselves in the last 3 months. We don't organize events specifically for them either. In fact, my shell is very adamant about members doing "their REMs on their own time."


50M gil. Lets see. Plasm pickup group farmed today.. I didn't pay attention most of the time because I just sat there twilight sac'ing. Made about 45K plasm.

Phoenix airlixir +1 prices are about 350k per. I just made the equivalent of 6.3M gil. Do this for ten days, I've got 63M gil.

Stop sitting there whining about no gil and do something about it.


Hey. Until you've done 1500 GEIRSKOGUL killshots for one friggin DMG+1 increase, STFU.


{That's too bad.} http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_economy {Please check it.}

You mean people are horrible and need new R/E/M for delve content ?

i think he means he is shallow and wants to feel leet more than he wants to do new content

The entire post sounded like you didn't really care about how SE just abandoned legendary weapons for new ones that you can obtain in a single day, but then you throw some ridiculous kill shot reference in someone's face like it makes collecting HMP an easy task. I think it's you who needs to "STFU". By the way, HMP trials are pretty impossible to finish at the moment, even if you over pay.

I'm pretty sure delve will be the best most will get. Just cause they are upgrading the REMS doesn't mean most people will be able to get one shrug. They look to be on par with delve boss weapons, thus I wouldn't be surprised if killing one is a requirement.

So get your delve weapons and be happy you are on par with 99% of the server.

I'm just guessing though, who knows if it will just be some stupidly easy upgrade. Would make everything really trivial if so though.

No, obviously you didn't read, as I was angry like everyone else when SE tried to abandon 'legendary weapons' with Matsui's first post. I was fine after they backtracked, with Burtgang buffs as an example.

There are as many HMPs in bazaars at a reasonable price (~70K on Phoenix) as there were, pre-Adoulin. Don't kid yourself otherwise. Once things pick up, there will be an increase in VWs because the market will demand it. People will be opportunistic and spam VW in hopes of cashing in. That in turn will drive prices back down. In the end, it'll be the same. Prices have increased only because no one is doing VW, because everyone is waiting for SE to show what they'll do to buff Empyreans.

Finally, my reference to oldschool killshot trials? "Suck it up and finish, THEN you have a right to complain."

sure why not

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/33729-This-game-has-been-ruined...?p=437448&viewfull=1#post437448

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