Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

They don't want r/e/m to be the best, so I wouldn't expect any update for plate etc, specially making the ws coming from coin weapon show they knew this would have been an issue.

Yes and no. It's the part that isn't restricted by entry times or assault tags, since you can just buy it from bazaars, but you still have to get nine digits of gil from SOMEWHERE, and then track it all down.

Ignoring the bit about being able to 8-box effectively(he's actually remarkable at it, I assure you), you seem to think capping/winning most VW fights is much harder than it actually is.

Show me where I implied that winning is harder than it actually is.

Plus, my original point was how HMP may become very scarce. Low manning the event doesn't mean that HMP can be farmed at a decent rate.

And I don't care what your original point was, you're intentionally breaking off into this stupid tangent about how ***that people have been doing with a single party for ages now is suddenly an Olympic achievement with eight.

i should have just lied and said it was a linkshell static

no good ever comes from mentioning mules

Wow. My implication was me not believing he can 8 box, let alone do all the other things in a VW fight. I doubt any one person can play that many characters without scripting.


Just seems to me like a radical claim. I use to tri box regularly to do things like salvage and the such. I'm not saying that no one can do it better but legitimately being able to play 8.....

I can tell you from experience that this is not true, lol.

I mean there's a lot of mythic owners that have capped gil from blinkering and whatnot and for them the other stuff will be time-consuming because Alex is a non-issue for them essentially

But for anybody that didn't do that it is definitely the most time-consuming part.


Funny thing about that is that they've already screwed mythics again. Some of salvage II is still relevant, sure, but I doubt most are going to spend their playtime doing that instead of farming Delve for stuff that's going to be a far more valuable in the long run.

I mean, given that it feels they've changed their plans multiple times in the past few months (Otherwise outdating all that Meebles stuff makes no sense to me), it's certainly possible they'll budge on it and decide to adjust the requirements for REMs, but I doubt they can do something like that without causing massive nerdrage again.

And I can't dualbox worth a damn-- your point?

Some people are better at things than others.



And again, this has nothing to do with his point. Voidwatch is still plenty doable, people simply require entirely too many bodies.

They should jsut add a crystal trade-in thing, like how you trade worms in to the meeble to get random loot.

Oh, that one's obvious. Meebles was the last piece of Tanaka's vision that went in - a lowman event with a couple of upgrades, quite a few sidegrades, and a bunch of useless stuff to fill it out. But it was still from the old system, and so it got obsoleted like everything else. The only remarkable thing about it is that it was the last one in.

If Salvage II had been the last thing released, we'd have the same discussion about it; "Why did they put out Salvage II just to outclass it a month later?"

Just for you babygirl. Inb4 someone splitting hairs over blue.

Yeah lets ignore all the points and only talk about the one you want to right?

It's not a question if Voidwatch is doable. It's if enough will do it for HMP (at least that's what I've been talking about). Empy holders may find it very difficult to finish their weapons if supply is very limited. I also don't feel that low manning VW will be a viable option to 95 an empy weapon.

Funny thing about that is that they've already screwed mythics again. Some of salvage II is still relevant, sure, but I doubt most are going to spend their playtime doing that instead of farming Delve for stuff that's going to be a far more valuable in the long run.

I mean, given that it feels they've changed their plans multiple times in the past few months (Otherwise outdating all that Meebles stuff makes no sense to me), it's certainly possible they'll budge on it and decide to adjust the requirements for REMs, but I doubt they can do something like that without causing massive nerdrage again.[/quote]

I guess I lumped everything besides alexandrite into one category. The total alexandrites needed costs more than empy and relics, that's for sure.

Do I really need to go back one page and point out where your argument split seven different ways? You went from arguing the "impracticality of HMP collection" to "nobody does voidwatch" to "how can I proc with only a few people" to "lets focus on his mules".

He already agreed that farming HMP isn't practical, you're just bitching at him to *** at him.

Shouldn't that be backwards though? I mean, if they're going to be just town gear might as well lower the requirements? lol Idk, seems a bit counterintuitive that way.

Please be on your way. You were already wrong on my implication.

3/4 of those claims above are incorrect(the first is correct).

doing an event with 99 instrutment very convincing and ironic

Your short term memory is cause for concern.

I really want a relic
That i could forever relish
since the april update, its potential was tarnished
100 ADL's i vanquished
to make my job distinguished
for just 1 sudden update, to render it GARBAGE !!

lets lowman farm 95 upgrade by bringing 99 over. yes sir!

and for you

vw so hard

I agree with you but I think they clearly want us to focus on new stuff and after all the crying about kannagi and so on (some of them still 85) being outdated I doubt they will make it any easier.
I believe(could be totally wrong) they will just slowly outdate the boosted one instead of totally trashing them in one update.

My god, my brain is starting to hurt. Let me explain just one of those for you.

Proccing!

My argument is that people bring more people to proc. My single word statement doesn't mean I don't think VW can't be procced with less or question how it can be done.

VW is usually done with randoms...This means that you don't know who you're getting a lot of the times. So by bringing an alliance of 18 people, you increase your chances at capping lights.

So instead of typing all this ***out, I used one word.

"how can I proc with only a few people" This is your interpretation of a single word. So please just stop already. That's great that you want to defend your friend and all but yeah...at least understand what the other person is saying.

I dont even know what the hell you trying to prove with that pic when I already point it out there is a 99 instrument involve., or you dumb brain to hard to see the ironic part that ***.

It is in my sack and you can see I only have 2 buffs on, as well as the timers display for the buffs.

In case it wasn't obvious, that kill was without using my harp.

Which does nothing to deter from the fact that he agreed with you a page ago

You went on a stupid tangent, proceeded to cry over said tangent, and are now continuing to ignore that you don't even disagree with each other. pls stahp

Protip: when you're on the side of the guy saying "...or you dumb brain to hard to see the ironic part that ***", it's probably time to wrap it up.