Matsui: "Don't Throw Away Your R/M/E Weapons Yet"

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By Quiznor 2013-04-29 16:51:22
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Bahamut.Jaggerjack said: »
i ment shield and horn!

I know,I'm just *** with you :D (dont forget mythic BRD dagger!)
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By Bahamut.Jaggerjack 2013-04-29 16:52:27
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this new event is supposed to be the new VW with the new weapon's?
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-04-29 17:11:57
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Ragnarok.Hotkarl said: »
Hasn't the purpose of the game always been to go and get the best gear/weapons/items? So what's changed, there's new stuff, go and get it. You want your weapons that are 10 years old to stay on top but it's ok for gear to get outdated every so often? What's the point in playing if all your 99 weapons are the end all be all? There isn't one. New equips are out there, stop crying and go seize the moment. That's why you Play the game I thought. I feel sorry for the devs, there's no pleasing some people.

For the umpteenth time, if people wanted a neverending gear treadmill of forced obsolescence they would be playing one of the dozen gear treadmill MMOs out there that are superior to FFXI gameplay-wise in nearly every way.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah 2013-04-29 17:23:46
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people are so afraid of being sub-par even for a month or two. its ridiculous, enjoy not being OP as *** for a little bit, enjoy the challenge of new gear, i'm sad my twash is gonna suck but i'll just use a new dagger till i can upgrade it.
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2013-04-29 17:27:47
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Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
people are so afraid of being sub-par even for a month or two. its ridiculous, enjoy not being OP as *** for a little bit, enjoy the challenge of new gear, i'm sad my twash is gonna suck but i'll just use a new dagger till i can upgrade it.


You're really not getting it. Forget the weapons themselves for a second, and realize that they just obseleted almost all of their content, as well as nearly their entire economy.

Then ponder the fact that their dev team currently consists of 4 monkeys and a pop gun that have no prayer of replacing the amount of content they just destroyed with their reskinned campaign + meebles.
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By Asura.Zart 2013-04-29 17:28:46
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I think they should make a new type of skillchain only achievable with R/M/E weapons, technically there already is, R/E weapons are the only ones that can continue a darkness/light skillchain after it reaches that point of darkness/light (so this would be considered a LV4 skillchain)

so what I propose is that for
1.], Square Enix needs to make an event to make building a R/E/M to lv99 with afterglow slightly easier, because at the moment its ridiculous.

2.], The new skillchain I think should be somewhat like this.
If any amount of players closes light twice, followed by darkness twice it produces a LV5 skillchain known as Ultima, and if a player closes darkness twice followed by light twice it produces a skillchain known as Omega.
Essentially Ultima = all elements except darkness and
Omega = all elements except light
and I think this would more likely warrant the weapons because they could make the damage really ridiculous given that amount of concentration it would take to build this skillchain, but at the same time its an RPG and players would be more willing to take an easier button smashing zerging route. Overall I think this is a good idea.

what are your thoughts?
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-04-29 17:31:47
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lol
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By Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah 2013-04-29 17:32:12
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Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
people are so afraid of being sub-par even for a month or two. its ridiculous, enjoy not being OP as *** for a little bit, enjoy the challenge of new gear, i'm sad my twash is gonna suck but i'll just use a new dagger till i can upgrade it.


You're really not getting it. Forget the weapons themselves for a second, and realize that they just obseleted almost all of their content, as well as nearly their entire economy.

Then ponder the fact that their dev team currently consists of 4 monkeys and a pop gun that have no prayer of replacing the amount of content they just destroyed with their reskinned campaign + meebles.


i don't really think about it, i just have fun playing and if i wouldn't then i'd stop paying SE.
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2013-04-29 17:32:37
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Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
people are so afraid of being sub-par even for a month or two. its ridiculous, enjoy not being OP as *** for a little bit, enjoy the challenge of new gear, i'm sad my twash is gonna suck but i'll just use a new dagger till i can upgrade it.


You're really not getting it. Forget the weapons themselves for a second, and realize that they just obseleted almost all of their content, as well as nearly their entire economy.

Then ponder the fact that their dev team currently consists of 4 monkeys and a pop gun that have no prayer of replacing the amount of content they just destroyed with their reskinned campaign + meebles.


i don't really think about it

it's apparent.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-04-29 17:33:37
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Just let us throw 99 RME for one-time irresistable instant-death to any enemy ok
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By Shiva.Lechie 2013-04-29 17:34:05
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Carbuncle.Anesthesia said: »
Forget the weapons themselves for a second, and realize that they just obseleted almost all of their content, as well as nearly their entire economy.
This.
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By Lakshmi.Cadant 2013-04-29 17:34:20
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Asura.Zart said: »
I think they should make a new type of skillchain only achievable with R/M/E weapons, technically there already is, R/E weapons are the only ones that can continue a darkness/light skillchain after it reaches that point of darkness/light (so this would be considered a LV4 skillchain)

so what I propose is that for
1.], Square Enix needs to make an event to make building a R/E/M to lv99 with afterglow slightly easier, because at the moment its ridiculous.

2.], The new skillchain I think should be somewhat like this.
If any amount of players closes light twice, followed by darkness twice it produces a LV5 skillchain known as Ultima, and if a player closes darkness twice followed by light twice it produces a skillchain known as Omega.
Essentially Ultima = all elements except darkness and
Omega = all elements except light
and I think this would more likely warrant the weapons because they could make the damage really ridiculous given that amount of concentration it would take to build this skillchain, but at the same time its an RPG and players would be more willing to take an easier button smashing zerging route. Overall I think this is a good idea.

what are your thoughts?

You give the current FFXI population too much credit. The average pickup group probably doesn't even know what a skillchain is let alone how they did it (on accident) ^^
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By Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah 2013-04-29 17:35:16
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lol i'm not gonna get into a heated nerd arguement about who is smarter anesthesia, i just dont understand ppl who complain about something they pay for, this is SE's service now, find a new game if its giving you so many heart problems.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Avengers 2013-04-29 17:37:21
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Due to how ridiculous some of these weapons are, my guess is there are either a typo (doubtful) or they are ONLY usable for delve or some new voidwatch type thing coming out, because the damage on these weapons are just to far of a leap above anything else.


OR the end of FFXI is coming when FFXIV comes out and SE just wants us to piss around with ***before the servers come down permanently (Also doubtful)
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-04-29 17:40:31
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Yeah people who complain about things they pay for are totally stupid, why on earth would someone complain about not liking the direction something they invested in is going? That's ludicrous.
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By Cerberus.Cahlum 2013-04-29 17:42:04
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As its golden week now we wont be getting any responses from devs about this update xD
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By Siren.Scottyb 2013-04-29 17:42:15
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Forget the weapons themselves for a second, and realize that they just obseleted almost all of their content, as well as nearly their entire economy.
This.
Thats something I was wondering about, I only have 2 emps and they were easy to get but I really enjoy doing dynamis and salvage to slowly build towards a relic, aswell as doing my empyrean weapon rotation with my 2 RL friends, now its kinda annoying that my 1month old Verethragna (late to the party I know) are being trounced by these new weapons, not because im bothered about the damage, but because doing abyssea or farming dynamis/salvage now seems kinda pointless, so some of the fun is taken away, leaving me with not a whole lot to do lol.

I dont like LS content mostly because:

1. Im EU
2. I dont have the time I used to
3. I didnt enjoy it that much back in the day.

So Im just wondering what SE has up their sleeves, Im sure we all thought this during abyssea and it turned out to be quite fun and nice to be able to low man stuff, so how will they go about keeping people interested if a lot of the content will now be seen as obselete as stated?
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By Valefor.Omnys 2013-04-29 17:42:21
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Lakshmi.Cadant said: »
You give the current FFXI population too much credit. The average pickup group probably doesn't even know what a skillchain is let alone how they did it (on accident) ^^

Skillchains are easy, you sip on your soda when the sam 2hr's!
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By Cerberus.Fiasko 2013-04-29 17:43:14
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Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
lol i'm not gonna get into a heated nerd arguement about who is smarter anesthesia, i just dont understand ppl who complain about something they pay for, this is SE's service now, find a new game if its giving you so many heart problems.

I don't even know where to start.
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By Cerberus.Meatster 2013-04-29 17:44:00
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Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
lol i'm not gonna get into a heated nerd arguement about who is smarter anesthesia, i just dont understand ppl who complain about something they pay for, this is SE's service now, find a new game if its giving you so many heart problems.
What in the what in the ***?
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-29 17:45:17
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Hell, I complain about ***I get for free. I'm a *** like that.
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By Carbuncle.Anesthesia 2013-04-29 17:45:38
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Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
lol i'm not gonna get into a heated nerd arguement about who is smarter anesthesia, i just dont understand ppl who complain about something they pay for, this is SE's service now, find a new game if its giving you so many heart problems.

ok, i think we're done here
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By Fenrir.Luckycharmss 2013-04-29 17:47:36
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Bismarck.Altar said: »
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Ok. You've had more than enough rope to hang yourself. It's time to stop posting.

lol ive been on fenrir since I was forced to it from the Unicorn server merger an I still don't know how Candlejack is. Wish I could find him to slap some sense into him. You making fenrir look terrible with your nonsense.
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By Cerberus.Zyph 2013-04-29 17:53:40
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Cerberus.Cahlum said: »
As its golden week now we wont be getting any responses from devs about this update xD

Classic Squeenix: Drop bombshell, leave for golden week.
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By Cerberus.Ethics 2013-04-29 18:02:21
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The cook ***on my steak, but considering the fact I'm paying for the steak, why complain. Maybe if I keep my mouth closed I could get two turds on it next time.
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By Fenrir.Boomslang 2013-04-29 18:16:05
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Cerberus.Ethics said: »
The cook ***on my steak, but considering the fact I'm paying for the steak, why complain. Maybe if I keep my mouth closed I could get two turds on it next time.
You're lucky to have the privilege to spend money on the steak.
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By Bismarck.Punchus 2013-04-29 18:23:59
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I think this is the funniest ***ever. People need to stop thinking about how much more dmg. these weapons can do over r/m/e(which as previously stated will once again be atop the most wanted lists) and start thinking about the next r/m/e they are going to build. Does this not get ppl excited? People should be saying, "Holy ***if this peice of crap crafted weapon is so amazing then my r/m/e is gonna be kick *** when I can upgrade it again." Stop being butt hurt and accept that the best ***takes time. Cheese...Wine...Whiskey...Scotch... all take time to make them good.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2013-04-29 18:24:40
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Bismarck.Punchus said: »
I think this is the funniest ***ever. People need to stop thinking about how much more dmg. these weapons can do over r/m/e(which as previously stated will once again be atop the most wanted lists) and start thinking about the next r/m/e they are going to build. Does this not get ppl excited? People should be saying, "Holy ***if this peice of crap crafted weapon is so amazing then my r/m/e is gonna be kick *** when I can upgrade it again." Stop being butt hurt and accept that the best ***takes time. Cheese...Wine...Whiskey...Scotch... all take time to make them good.

I like the cut of your jib.
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By Phoenix.Mikumaru 2013-04-29 18:25:26
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Asura.Zart said: »
I think they should make a new type of skillchain only achievable with R/M/E weapons, technically there already is, R/E weapons are the only ones that can continue a darkness/light skillchain after it reaches that point of darkness/light (so this would be considered a LV4 skillchain)

so what I propose is that for
1.], Square Enix needs to make an event to make building a R/E/M to lv99 with afterglow slightly easier, because at the moment its ridiculous.

2.], The new skillchain I think should be somewhat like this.
If any amount of players closes light twice, followed by darkness twice it produces a LV5 skillchain known as Ultima, and if a player closes darkness twice followed by light twice it produces a skillchain known as Omega.
Essentially Ultima = all elements except darkness and
Omega = all elements except light
and I think this would more likely warrant the weapons because they could make the damage really ridiculous given that amount of concentration it would take to build this skillchain, but at the same time its an RPG and players would be more willing to take an easier button smashing zerging route. Overall I think this is a good idea.

what are your thoughts?
something like this or just being able to perpetuate Light/Dark continuously would be great , the major problem is no one seems to use this mechanic anymore . With hate being so unmanageable , a BLM or SCH hitting a 6-10k+ MB would cause some backline carnage to ensue . Tho it would be cool to revisit the days of SAMs making Light/Dark and the BLM PT MBing 4-6 Nooks at once for uber DMG . Oh the days of yore..........
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By ScaevolaBahamut 2013-04-29 18:26:31
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Quetzalcoatl.Aryiah said: »
people are so afraid of being sub-par even for a month or two. its ridiculous, enjoy not being OP as *** for a little bit, enjoy the challenge of new gear, i'm sad my twash is gonna suck but i'll just use a new dagger till i can upgrade it.

As tempting as it is to make a snide joke about how this stuff is probably well beyond your reach so don't worry about it, I sincerely hope you CAN get the new weapons, because if you can't it seems pretty unlikely you'll be able to do anything meaningful going forward.
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