Odin.Mindinho said: »
He creates an army of trail accounts (all Galka's) to follow me in all zones
Cyber-Bullying: Has It Gone Too Far?
Cyber-Bullying: Has it gone too far?
That sounds kinda amusing, why's that an issue?
I'd also like to discuss some in-game bullying that's happened to me. There's this dude named Bekisa, has been bothering me for about a year. Real piece of work. Helps me farm relic items, gives me fishing tips, randomly sends me a tell one day threatening to let a Behemoth Tongue drop to the ground if I don't hurry out there and lot it for free.
And it doesn't stop there.
I went on vacation once, and this creep bought stuff I needed from the AH because the price dropped, and then held it for me until I got back. When I asked them what their deal was they said it was no problem, they would do it any time.
So if you see this Taru in game, watch out.
And it doesn't stop there.
I went on vacation once, and this creep bought stuff I needed from the AH because the price dropped, and then held it for me until I got back. When I asked them what their deal was they said it was no problem, they would do it any time.
So if you see this Taru in game, watch out.
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Disagreeing=/=picking on someone. Personally, I told him off cause he shifted the topic to me, which irritated me. Also, does your avatar have a penis?
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Bahamut.Cantontai said: »
I'd also like to discuss some in-game bullying that's happened to me. There's this dude named Bekisa, has been bothering me for about a year.
Yeah I know the biotch! He threatened me in Neo-Nyzul Isle tons of times! Even went as far as to yell at me on skype!!
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A lot of bullying stories are so cliche.
It's the "big dumb guy" picking on the "little smart kid."
What the most people don't see is that when the "little smart kid" makes a remark in front of the class about the "big dumb kid," and everyone laughs, the big dumb kid feels bullied too.
It's sad how many people claiming to have been "bullied" will maintain that it was done to them for "no reason!"
It's not impossible, but really? Think hard....
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In children's stories that don't have "bullies," there's usually an authoritarian villain.
If children all have a common fear, it's hard for them to build themselves up picking on one another.
It's the "big dumb guy" picking on the "little smart kid."
What the most people don't see is that when the "little smart kid" makes a remark in front of the class about the "big dumb kid," and everyone laughs, the big dumb kid feels bullied too.
It's sad how many people claiming to have been "bullied" will maintain that it was done to them for "no reason!"
It's not impossible, but really? Think hard....
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In children's stories that don't have "bullies," there's usually an authoritarian villain.
If children all have a common fear, it's hard for them to build themselves up picking on one another.
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Isn't that the basis for bootcamp? Officers beat-em-down so they'll build eachother up as a unit?
Asura.Bartimaeus said: »
I got bullied here or there, but one moment stuck out in my mind. My 'unbalanced' father gave me a ..weapon once when some kids stole my bike.
Told me to get it back. I cried, dropped that ***and ran back outside. The kids got bored and left my stuff. Got it back, no hassle.
I know it's not everyone, but that's one a few different memories for me where you realize that sticking up for yourself is one thing and going beyond to terrorize is another. My father liked to terrorize. No thanks :3
I'm going to teach my kids to pick their battles. Be smart.
Yes stick up for yourself. Don't be dumb though. Size does matter, and if you ever have actually scrapped [and sometimes gotten your *** kicked] you'd know it. It's not a disney movie out there, and the hero doesn't always get the last uppercut at the prom.
But we all come to this differently, and we all have our own approaches I suppose.
Told me to get it back. I cried, dropped that ***and ran back outside. The kids got bored and left my stuff. Got it back, no hassle.
I know it's not everyone, but that's one a few different memories for me where you realize that sticking up for yourself is one thing and going beyond to terrorize is another. My father liked to terrorize. No thanks :3
I'm going to teach my kids to pick their battles. Be smart.
Yes stick up for yourself. Don't be dumb though. Size does matter, and if you ever have actually scrapped [and sometimes gotten your *** kicked] you'd know it. It's not a disney movie out there, and the hero doesn't always get the last uppercut at the prom.
But we all come to this differently, and we all have our own approaches I suppose.
Your dad's an alpha, that's not "terrorizing." Call me insensitive but if people would stop acting like little ***, there wouldn't be so much bullying anymore. Today's bullying is pathetic, getting trolled over Facebook and killing yourself for it. This generation has lost all self-respect.
You don't need to be a "big guy" to stick up for yourself.
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it's not always the victim being all depressed and "woe is me". quite often it's the victim being scared to death. why? because they might not be sure they'll even live another day, cause some douche grabs about 5 of his friends and decides they want to pound on you for shits and giggles everyday. so what then? ignore it? sure you try ignoring the fist connecting with your face repeatedly, lemme know how that works out for ya. resort to the authorities? ok that works for about a day, then they bring even more ppl the next time and beat you worse for "being a snitch". this isn't always an issue with the victims mental capacity to endure and come to terms with stressful situations.
and also, who says the bully has to be fundamentally lacking anything. some ppl are just that cruel that they derive joy and entertainment from making those weaker than themselves live in fear. in situations like these telling someone to "get over it" or "just deal with it" is actually just enabling said bully to continue doing so at their leisure as nothing will be done to them anyways. furthermore this is what can lead to these bullies becoming murderers, if they get away with it long enough it can escalate into a much more serious issue. they end up acquiring a mentality that they can't be touched cause everyone has ignored their transgressions. not saying this is always the case, but the human mind is a complex thing and within certain individuals being left to their own devices w/o consequence can lead to the triggering of a very unhealthy and dangerous mental state.
as for non physical bullying, yea there is a point where ppl just need to get the hell over it. "they called me this" or "this person said this about me" can get pretty redundant very quickly. this type of stuff ppl really do need to learn how to ignore. some of it though can't really be ignored, and can leave long term emotional and mental scars that can drag a person down for years into their futures. it's not an issue of the victim "feeling bad about themselves" or "feeling that they're one who is at fault". if you have it drilled into your head throughout your childhood that you're a weakling/worthless/whatever then quite often that will be the natural disposition said person will feel themselves in for years to come. it's just how the human mind works in most cases.
with all that said, it's still my opinion that capital punishment is the answer. again just my opinions on the issue.
and also, who says the bully has to be fundamentally lacking anything. some ppl are just that cruel that they derive joy and entertainment from making those weaker than themselves live in fear. in situations like these telling someone to "get over it" or "just deal with it" is actually just enabling said bully to continue doing so at their leisure as nothing will be done to them anyways. furthermore this is what can lead to these bullies becoming murderers, if they get away with it long enough it can escalate into a much more serious issue. they end up acquiring a mentality that they can't be touched cause everyone has ignored their transgressions. not saying this is always the case, but the human mind is a complex thing and within certain individuals being left to their own devices w/o consequence can lead to the triggering of a very unhealthy and dangerous mental state.
as for non physical bullying, yea there is a point where ppl just need to get the hell over it. "they called me this" or "this person said this about me" can get pretty redundant very quickly. this type of stuff ppl really do need to learn how to ignore. some of it though can't really be ignored, and can leave long term emotional and mental scars that can drag a person down for years into their futures. it's not an issue of the victim "feeling bad about themselves" or "feeling that they're one who is at fault". if you have it drilled into your head throughout your childhood that you're a weakling/worthless/whatever then quite often that will be the natural disposition said person will feel themselves in for years to come. it's just how the human mind works in most cases.
with all that said, it's still my opinion that capital punishment is the answer. again just my opinions on the issue.
Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
Asura.Bartimaeus said: »
I got bullied here or there, but one moment stuck out in my mind. My 'unbalanced' father gave me a ..weapon once when some kids stole my bike.
Told me to get it back. I cried, dropped that ***and ran back outside. The kids got bored and left my stuff. Got it back, no hassle.
I know it's not everyone, but that's one a few different memories for me where you realize that sticking up for yourself is one thing and going beyond to terrorize is another. My father liked to terrorize. No thanks :3
I'm going to teach my kids to pick their battles. Be smart.
Yes stick up for yourself. Don't be dumb though. Size does matter, and if you ever have actually scrapped [and sometimes gotten your *** kicked] you'd know it. It's not a disney movie out there, and the hero doesn't always get the last uppercut at the prom.
But we all come to this differently, and we all have our own approaches I suppose.
Told me to get it back. I cried, dropped that ***and ran back outside. The kids got bored and left my stuff. Got it back, no hassle.
I know it's not everyone, but that's one a few different memories for me where you realize that sticking up for yourself is one thing and going beyond to terrorize is another. My father liked to terrorize. No thanks :3
I'm going to teach my kids to pick their battles. Be smart.
Yes stick up for yourself. Don't be dumb though. Size does matter, and if you ever have actually scrapped [and sometimes gotten your *** kicked] you'd know it. It's not a disney movie out there, and the hero doesn't always get the last uppercut at the prom.
But we all come to this differently, and we all have our own approaches I suppose.
Your dad's an alpha, that's not "terrorizing." Call me insensitive but if people would stop acting like little ***, there wouldn't be so much bullying anymore. Today's bullying is pathetic, getting trolled over Facebook and killing yourself for it. This generation has lost all self-respect.
You don't need to be a "big guy" to stick up for yourself.
Hahaha! Get ready to get "bullied" right out of this thread.
I agree though. At some point, it's not "blaming the victim" to ask the parents of the deceased:
"What parenting strategies did you use to foster children strong enough to tell their parents about their feelings and daily happenings in order to prevent them from.... killing themselves?"
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Bahamut.Cantontai said: »
I'd also like to discuss some in-game bullying that's happened to me. There's this dude named Bekisa, has been bothering me for about a year. Real piece of work. Helps me farm relic items, gives me fishing tips, randomly sends me a tell one day threatening to let a Behemoth Tongue drop to the ground if I don't hurry out there and lot it for free. And it doesn't stop there. I went on vacation once, and this creep bought stuff I needed from the AH because the price dropped, and then held it for me until I got back. When I asked them what their deal was they said it was no problem, they would do it any time. So if you see this Taru in game, watch out.
Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
Getting trolled over Facebook and killing yourself for it. This generation has lost all self-respect.
You don't need to be a "big guy" to stick up for yourself.
You don't need to be a "big guy" to stick up for yourself.
This isn't the story I was looking for. Trying to find the one about the kid from Fort-Worth Texas, but relevant story nonetheless.
Jadin Bell Dead: Gay Oregon Teen Who Hanged Himself Dies After Being Taken Off Life Support
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Family friend Bud Hill, who said he considered Bell his nephew, told the Komo news station that the high school sophomore had been the victim of intense bullying both in person and on the Internet because he was gay.
The answer is to separate ignorant people.
Bad things happen when they get together.
It's almost as though the ignorance compounds........
Bad things happen when they get together.
It's almost as though the ignorance compounds........
Lakshmi.Watusa said: »
Asura.Bartimaeus said: »
I got bullied here or there, but one moment stuck out in my mind. My 'unbalanced' father gave me a ..weapon once when some kids stole my bike.
Told me to get it back. I cried, dropped that ***and ran back outside. The kids got bored and left my stuff. Got it back, no hassle.
I know it's not everyone, but that's one a few different memories for me where you realize that sticking up for yourself is one thing and going beyond to terrorize is another. My father liked to terrorize. No thanks :3
I'm going to teach my kids to pick their battles. Be smart.
Yes stick up for yourself. Don't be dumb though. Size does matter, and if you ever have actually scrapped [and sometimes gotten your *** kicked] you'd know it. It's not a disney movie out there, and the hero doesn't always get the last uppercut at the prom.
But we all come to this differently, and we all have our own approaches I suppose.
Told me to get it back. I cried, dropped that ***and ran back outside. The kids got bored and left my stuff. Got it back, no hassle.
I know it's not everyone, but that's one a few different memories for me where you realize that sticking up for yourself is one thing and going beyond to terrorize is another. My father liked to terrorize. No thanks :3
I'm going to teach my kids to pick their battles. Be smart.
Yes stick up for yourself. Don't be dumb though. Size does matter, and if you ever have actually scrapped [and sometimes gotten your *** kicked] you'd know it. It's not a disney movie out there, and the hero doesn't always get the last uppercut at the prom.
But we all come to this differently, and we all have our own approaches I suppose.
Your dad's an alpha, that's not "terrorizing." Call me insensitive but if people would stop acting like little ***, there wouldn't be so much bullying anymore. Today's bullying is pathetic, getting trolled over Facebook and killing yourself for it. This generation has lost all self-respect.
You don't need to be a "big guy" to stick up for yourself.
The advent of social media has changed the world, no doubt. When I was a kid being bullied at school, I was able to at least get away from the bullying after school by going home, or to my friend's house etc.. It's much harder to get away from it now, what with most everything being able to go viral within hours. Not only would people in your own school see rumors or pictures or what have you, but people you've never even met would see and comment. This is what I see the problem is with social media. I'm not sure how you'd fix it though. You can't just "ignore" the people saying this stuff to you. We all know how simple it would be to make another account just to keep bothering the person in question(and I'm 100% sure that people actually do that just becuase they can).
It sometimes goes much farther than people just saying stuff to you online and you just saying that you can't handle it and offing yourself. Imagine being the girl from this article, getting drunk at a party and then having pictures of yourself naked or having sex posted on Facebook(or whatever social media it was posted on). Imagine the comments that come from people you haven't even met, telling you how horrible of a person you are etc.. After a while, it wears on you. After a while, you don't even know what to do.
Watusa(Not that I don't see what you're trying to say), before you call others little *** for being affected by cyber bullying, please walk a mile in their shoes and imagine what it'd actually be like to be pelted non-stop by verbal abuse 24/7 because of a mistake you made. It's not always that easy to walk out the other side without being affected. Especially if something on the level of what happened to the girl in OP's post happened to you.
It sometimes goes much farther than people just saying stuff to you online and you just saying that you can't handle it and offing yourself. Imagine being the girl from this article, getting drunk at a party and then having pictures of yourself naked or having sex posted on Facebook(or whatever social media it was posted on). Imagine the comments that come from people you haven't even met, telling you how horrible of a person you are etc.. After a while, it wears on you. After a while, you don't even know what to do.
Watusa(Not that I don't see what you're trying to say), before you call others little *** for being affected by cyber bullying, please walk a mile in their shoes and imagine what it'd actually be like to be pelted non-stop by verbal abuse 24/7 because of a mistake you made. It's not always that easy to walk out the other side without being affected. Especially if something on the level of what happened to the girl in OP's post happened to you.
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Learn to box people im telling you it boosts your confidence and you learn to defend yourself.. i don't understand why that isn't the first thing people would not want to learn.
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Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Imagine being the girl from this article, getting drunk at a party and then having pictures of yourself naked or having sex posted on Facebook(or whatever social media it was posted on). Imagine the comments that come from people you haven't even met, telling you how horrible of a person you are etc..
Hmmm. I can imagine just as many people that would "unfriend" or be disgusted with the poster.
EX: There was a new evolutionary biology professor lecturing a few years ago at my university. He made a joke about the "Darwin Awards" posting silly pictures of some of the scenarios.
A young man raised his hand and said this:
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Clarifying question: Do you find it comical the WAY in which these people lost their lives or do you simply find it comical that they died?
As the shocked professor stammered, the guy said:
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It was a rhetorical question.
And he left.
I can remember it like it was yesterday. You'd be surprised how quickly a situation can change when someone says "This is *** up. Knock it off!"
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Leviathan.Syagin said: »
Learn to box people im telling you it boosts your confidence and you learn to defend yourself.. i don't understand why that isn't the first thing people would not want to learn.
Leviathan.Syagin said: »
Learn to box people im telling you it boosts your confidence and you learn to defend yourself.. i don't understand why that isn't the first thing people would not want to learn.
Learning to fight isn't the solution. I kinda outed myself, inadvertently, at my high school when I wrote an editorial about homophobia and racism at my high school. I consequently got called a ***/*** every day after, and was getting into physical confrontations daily.
There was never a fear/trauma from the bullying itself(in my situation) it was that my Catholic family would find out. That was my greatest fear. Facebook, which didn't exist in my days, would have certainly facilitated my parents finding out.
Leviathan.Syagin said: »
actually i beg the differ... there is one common thing in bullying no matter what it is "fear" the question is... "how do you solution that?" how do you channel the fear?
Channel the fear? What is this a shonen manga?
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What does interest have to do w/ knowing how to defend? that's why you cgonna always get your *** beat thinking like that.. declaw a lion and put him in the wild and take a look at the out come. whats the differance w/ a person learning how to defend?? come on lets not be silly...
I dont know. I got kicked out of a club w/ my train pass inside.
5 min into stripping down to the beat in Utsunomiya in December brought a bartender out with my bag!
Never underestimate the power of getting naked.
(damn right it made the christmas letter that year.)
5 min into stripping down to the beat in Utsunomiya in December brought a bartender out with my bag!
Never underestimate the power of getting naked.
(damn right it made the christmas letter that year.)
Lakshmi.Greggles said: »
Imagine being the girl from this article, getting drunk at a party and then having pictures of yourself naked or having sex posted on Facebook(or whatever social media it was posted on). Imagine the comments that come from people you haven't even met, telling you how horrible of a person you are etc.. After a while, it wears on you. After a while, you don't even know what to do.
-She openly talked about having sex on twitter, facebook, etc.
-She posted pics of herself smoking pot and rolling joints on the backs of naked guys.
-She got drunk at a party and had sex with a bunch of dudes.
-Dudes took pictures.
-Friends saw pictures and made fun of her.
-She blew the rape whistle.
-No one got convicted because she was outed as a ***.
-She killed herself.
Now everyone can hate me.
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Boxing/martial arts is no guarantee that you'll be able to defend yourself against a physically superior opponent or multiple opponents, and what good does it do you when you're dealing with cyber-bullying anyway? Are you really going to physically attack someone who's not physically attacked you? That's what's commonly referred to as stupid.
Bahamut.Baconwrap said: »
Leviathan.Syagin said: »
Learn to box people im telling you it boosts your confidence and you learn to defend yourself.. i don't understand why that isn't the first thing people would not want to learn.
Learning to fight isn't the solution. I kinda outed myself, inadvertently, at my high school when I wrote an editorial about homophobia and racism at my high school. I consequently got called a ***/*** every day after, and was getting into physical confrontations daily.
There was never a fear/trauma from the bullying itself(in my situation) it was that my Catholic family would find out. That was my greatest fear. Facebook, which didn't exist in my days, would have certainly facilitated my parents finding out.
Leviathan.Syagin said: »
What does interest have to do w/ knowing how to defend? that's why you cgonna always get your *** beat thinking like that.. declaw a lion and put him in the wild and take a look at the out come. whats the differance w/ a person learning how to defend?? come on lets not be silly...
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