Endeavoring To Awaken --A Guide To Rune Fencer

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By Asura.Natenn 2013-08-08 00:16:55
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Asura.Natenn said: »
Heres my current sets
ItemSet 310259
Hands are Runeist mitons, all delve gear is r15

DMG-%
ItemSet 310260
Body and hands Runeist AF, Dark ring 5% PDT and MDT
updated, donno if this is best, just what im using

Also,
ItemSet 310416
Threw this together, 23% haste, 37% PDT, 25% MDT. any better ideas?
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By Asura.Natenn 2013-08-08 00:38:09
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could use a flash set but hmmmm, so much diff then PLD sets, need to find good enm/haste balance!
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By Enuyasha 2013-08-08 10:45:53
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Asura.Natenn said: »
could use a flash set but hmmmm, so much diff then PLD sets, need to find good enm/haste balance!
could then use it for Foil for gearspace conservation instead of the monster that PLD has become >_>;
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By Ragnarok.Redwolfx 2013-08-08 13:37:09
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ItemSet 310461

assuming either
Sub /blm /rdm /blu for min: +20 MAB
Sub /rdm /blm Max: +24
Calculations for +20 and Gear +84

424(Capped)+16(Merits)=440+215(GS+Skill)= 655

Based on Skill and Runes used.
(655x1.25)x3= 2456

w/ MAB Gear+Trait = 104 +MAB
and w/o magic crit/dmg increase and Gambit?
Is this correct?

2456x2.04 = 5010

Doesn't gambit technically increase dmg by .65 w/ AF Gloves

5010/.65 = 7707?

w/o Magic Burst or Does Obi work while in effect.

/w Magic Bust = 30%-40%
7707x1.3 or 1.4 = 10,020-10,789 ?

Theory: w/ Help of SCH in party to give weather effect work?
+ obi(Day or weather 10%) = 11,022 - 11,867
+ Obi (Double Weather 25%) = 12,525 - 13,486
+ Obi (Double Weather + Day 35%) = 13,527 - 14,565
w/o Crit dmg?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-08-08 13:42:17
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Not worth using that grip.
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By Ragnarok.Redwolfx 2013-08-08 14:02:29
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Is that the most Run can possibly do in this stage of the game? Consider fact we have yet to have Mythic/R/E that enhances "Lunge" effect.. which should happen if SE wants to give Rune Fencers a worthwhile augment as a job specific end-game weapon.
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-08-08 14:13:16
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Ragnarok.Redwolfx said: »
ItemSet 310461

assuming either
Sub /blm /rdm /blu for min: +20 MAB
Sub /rdm /blm Max: +24
Calculations for +20 and Gear +84

424(Capped)+16(Merits)=440+215(GS+Skill)= 655

Based on Skill and Runes used.
(655x1.25)x3= 2456

w/ MAB Gear+Trait
and w/o magic crit/dmg increase and Gambit?
Is this correct?

2456x2.04 = 5010

Doesn't gambit technically increase dmg by .65 w/ AF Gloves

5010/.65 = 7707?

w/o Magic Burst or Does Obi work while in effect.

/w Magic Bust = 30%-40%
7707x1.3 or 1.4 = 10,020-10,789 ?

Theory: w/ Help of SCH in party to give weather effect work?
+ obi(Day or weather 10%) = 1 11,022 - 11,867
+ Obi (Double Weather 25%) = 12,525 - 13,486
+ Obi (Double Weather + Day 35%) = 13,527 - 14,565
w/o Crit dmg?


I didn't try with run main but with war/run and ixtab, skill on wpn didn't affect lunge dmg.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-08-08 14:14:03
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While I wouldn't mind "Enhances Lunge Damage" as one stat of many, I should hope that it wouldn't be the primary stat on a future legendary weapon. However I could see a future weapon allowing for an additional rune, which would also potentially increase Lunge damage while providing other benefits.
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By Enuyasha 2013-08-08 14:17:57
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Ragnarok.Redwolfx said: »
Is that the most Run can possibly do in this stage of the game? Consider fact we have yet to have Mythic/R/E that enhances "Lunge" effect.. which should happen if SE wants to give Rune Fencers a worthwhile augment as a job specific end-game weapon.
the lunge bonuses may well be on R/E gear :<
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By Enuyasha 2013-08-09 18:59:31
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Is it possible to reach 500 skill easily on RUN?

For phalanx and barspells :<
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2013-08-09 19:13:19
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Not possible to reach 500 skill at all.
Without using grip or relying on lightsday 466 is the most you can get.
Run really should have had a naturally higher skill than B-. Would A- at least have been all that broken?
Had no idea Run could even use portent pants, may actually need those now.
Edited because I used "not" at the start of every damn sentence for some reason...
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-08-09 19:16:37
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466 with capped skill + merits is the best I could come up with:
ItemSet 305399

133 barspell and 33 damage reduction phalanx. Need another +4 and +6 skill for next tier on barspell and phalanx respectively. ><
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By Cerberus.Natsuhiko 2013-08-09 19:18:43
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Aptus Earring for a couple more skill, but that's basically the set I have.
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-08-09 19:29:25
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Yeh, left that out until we can squeeze another 2-4-7-12 from other slots. Hopefully from af2-3 with enhances embolden on the same piece!

*Dreams*
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-08-09 19:31:30
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updated the tp and ws sets in the OP, if anyone even reads that anymore. thinking about converting the entire thing to a full fledged guide, but I'm not going to bother unless there's much desire for it since maintaining two guides would be annoying if one of them isn't being read anyway.
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By Enuyasha 2013-08-09 19:31:31
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Phoenix.Thorbean said: »
Yeh, left that out until we can squeeze another 2-4-7-12 from other slots. Hopefully from af2-3 with enhances embolden on the same piece!

*Dreams*
"Enhances Embolden": Increases potency adjustment and reduces duration penalty by half (/'O'\) but thatll never happen...at worse itl just make the buff last for like 2 seconds

Valefor.Prothescar said: »
updated the tp and ws sets in the OP, if anyone even reads that anymore. thinking about converting the entire thing to a full fledged guide, but I'm not going to bother unless there's much desire for it since maintaining two guides would be annoying if one of them isn't being read anyway.


You forgot evasionist's cape on the lunge set.
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By Cerberus.Natsuhiko 2013-08-09 19:34:07
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
updated the tp and ws sets in the OP, if anyone even reads that anymore. thinking about converting the entire thing to a full fledged guide, but I'm not going to bother unless there's much desire for it since maintaining two guides would be annoying if one of them isn't being read anyway.

I read it, Rune Fencer is one of the few melee jobs I still play. If you want some help you can throw the guide in a node and I'll try to help maintain it.

Edit: I'm still working on a Geomancer guide, but I'm not happy with the text so far. It might get scraped altogether unless people really want one.
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-08-09 19:44:58
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Mani feet + windbuffet belt in TP set should be an upgrade I think. More attack, acc, multihit, evasion, mag eva, str, def and agi, at the cost of 1 dex, and 4/1024 haste.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-08-09 19:46:31
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I already fixed that beating him in private!

Isn't all new haste gear rounded up btw? Besides, there's Ionis 1%!
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-08-09 19:52:49
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If it's over 5% on a single piece you get 51/1024 instead of 50/1024 etc. I think? 5x 5% haste pieces would put you closest to the 256/1024 cap (255/1024) without going over.

I wanna say Ionis is 12/1024 but i could be talking complete crap. I remember 12/1024 being mentioned at some point regarding Ionis though.
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By Cerberus.Natsuhiko 2013-08-09 19:55:43
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Byrth's Ionis Testing
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-08-09 19:56:44
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Edited a few more things.

*Added merits
*Added AF walkthrough
*Edited many abilities to add potency and other specific information


if I were to make this into an actual guide, I'd add more gearsets, weapon information, guidance on how and when to use RUN and its abilities, and convert it to Node format to spruce it up and make it pretty. Let me know if you guys want that.
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2013-08-09 23:49:17
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Will you name the guide Rune Fencer: Wielders of the GAS POWERED STICK?
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By Ragnarok.Alahra 2013-08-10 00:17:53
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Edited a few more things.

*Added merits
*Added AF walkthrough
*Edited many abilities to add potency and other specific information


if I were to make this into an actual guide, I'd add more gearsets, weapon information, guidance on how and when to use RUN and its abilities, and convert it to Node format to spruce it up and make it pretty. Let me know if you guys want that.

That'd be pretty cool. I just started playing around with RUN, but I'm finding that I like it and will probably start gearing it more seriously.
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By Enuyasha 2013-08-10 11:45:48
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Ragnarok.Alahra said: »
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Edited a few more things.

*Added merits
*Added AF walkthrough
*Edited many abilities to add potency and other specific information


if I were to make this into an actual guide, I'd add more gearsets, weapon information, guidance on how and when to use RUN and its abilities, and convert it to Node format to spruce it up and make it pretty. Let me know if you guys want that.

That'd be pretty cool. I just started playing around with RUN, but I'm finding that I like it and will probably start gearing it more seriously.
I second this notion :<

Plus, we need a good gear guide like bad ('~')
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-08-10 15:34:04
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Made an error with the sets, HQ nagan isn't even worth using over NQ at the moment. (maybe)will change with skirmish II pieces, particularly those STP pants
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-08-11 18:16:11
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Runeist Bandaeu has 10% fast cast and 71/1024 haste.

Recast on Reraise with just Bandaeu: 53s
60 * 60 = 3600
3600 * .95 = 3420
3420 * .9306640625 = 3182
3182/60 = 53

Recast on Reraise with Bandaeu + 5% Fast Cast Mirke: 51s
60 * 60 = 3600
3600 * .93 = 3348
3348 * .9306640625 = 3115
3115/60 = 51

Recast on Reraise with Bandaeu + 5% Fast Cast Mirke + Twilight Belt: 48s
60 * 60 = 3600
3600 * .93 = 3348
3348 * .861328125 = 2883
2883/60 = 48
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By Bismarck.Ranthozyk 2013-08-11 22:55:18
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At least you could almost copy and paste some sets/stuff (Requiescat sorta) from the blue mage guide since they both wear light armor..? ]: I dunno. Well, maybe the sets aren't that close after all..
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-08-16 12:10:03
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Requiescat sets should be pretty much the same (and looking at the BLU ones listed in that guide, the top tier set doesn't seem to be fully updated). Once RUN is able to dual wield two Hala swords, it may see more frequent use.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-08-16 17:37:20
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Requiescat set is basically identical for blu and run. and the blu one is fully updated, you're just looking at the wrong one. dw won't change the applicability of requiescat as it's already a very useful WS for several NMs, however subbing DNC or NIN just to use a second sword would be a waste.

will probably start working on the node for this at some point when I get time.
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