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Bst Kraken Club TP set
Looking for the best Kclub Tp set for BST in dyna. Also, how much store tp is needed?
BSTnamys need to GTFO
Is kclub actually a good option for damage as a sub weapon? Serious question, I know little about bst damage.
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IIRC there was a thread a while back showing Guttler and kclub doing good damage, maybe out doing STR offhand? Let me find it.
Edit: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/36112/octave-club-and-bst96/ Siren.Thoraeon said: » Because I was curious, I decided to throw around some numbers in the spreadsheets. Using Attaxia's tp/ws set 1 (because I was lazy, and don't know/care to build a Bst tp set). Guttler 99/Str-magain: WS 3748 / DPS 212.819 Guttler 99/DA-magain: WS 3754 / DPS 218.582 Guttler 99/OA2-4: WS 3496 / DPS 207.083 Guttler 99/Kraken*: WS 3420 / DPS 245.375 *Note: I was not able to adjust for Kraken Club skill difference, so these numbers are artificially high. I will concede that Kraken Club might be good for BST due to the high ws damage ratio, but I agree with the points Attaxia made on the Octave club. The numbers are slightly inflated, but this post gives some insight into it. For the types of content that BST does, it seems to be one of the better options.
Edit: Beaten to it! ; ; That's pretty cool, is ridill really a good offhand on fodder mobs? Would having lower attack on offhand be enough to have a large dps drop?
The set have atm is pretty good. i just wanna see sets other's have or can come up with. see what improvements i can make.
mortontony1 said: » IIRC there was a thread a while back showing Guttler and kclub doing good damage, maybe out doing STR offhand? Let me find it. Edit: http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/36112/octave-club-and-bst96/ Siren.Thoraeon said: » Because I was curious, I decided to throw around some numbers in the spreadsheets. Using Attaxia's tp/ws set 1 (because I was lazy, and don't know/care to build a Bst tp set). Guttler 99/Str-magain: WS 3748 / DPS 212.819 Guttler 99/DA-magain: WS 3754 / DPS 218.582 Guttler 99/OA2-4: WS 3496 / DPS 207.083 Guttler 99/Kraken*: WS 3420 / DPS 245.375 *Note: I was not able to adjust for Kraken Club skill difference, so these numbers are artificially high. I will concede that Kraken Club might be good for BST due to the high ws damage ratio, but I agree with the points Attaxia made on the Octave club. -He was not able to adjust for accuracy difference for mainhand (which is rather significant against higher levels - you will miss alot) -He uses my TP set which is not good for a Kraken club settup (sTP and accuracy is favoured over DA etc) I've got no actual numbers for you at the moment (Perhaps later, I'm in a rush) but I believe an optimal set given the level of targets to look something like this: Of course, depending on what you fight, you will need to make adjustments to accuracy (Brutal instead of Kokou's if you can hit acc cap with offhand amongst one of the changes you can make). I can't imagine the mantle being too hot, wouldn't rancorous be much better?
Double attack severely gimps kraken club, so I would never recommend using a brutal earring.
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Assuming the aforementioned fodder mobs, no acc problems etc,
does Attaxia's posted set get TP faster than a similar set with Skadi+1 body/hands instead of Ogiers body/hands, and Sigyn feet instead of Wrathwing Nails?[I'm only concerned with what gets to 100TP faster] Attaxia's Set: 328.1 delay(24.61%haste + suppa5% DW), 12-hit build Skadi/Sigyn substitution Set: 297.84 delay (25% haste +suppa5%DW/skadi 7%DW), 14-hit build (above values obtained using ffxi calculator) Guttler/KClub: Average 4.8 hits per round(OAX spreadsheet) I guess WS tp return might also be a determining factor. thoughts?
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with the new equipment out what currently be the best TP set for a bst with guttler/K. Club combo? Thanks!
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Currently this is what I use, and only in dynamis:
ItemSet 305119 Not really concerned with offhand damage output, as the idea behind my build is to get to 100 TP asap. omfg, with this you prolly go for WS procs? :P
I saw a BST off hand KC this past weekend.
WS was frequent but damage seemed to be lacking. Cant give any specifics on his gears as I dont like to check people. He was sub /DNC. His ladybug pet kept hate most the fight which I found funny AND he evently died when he pulled hate to many times and Koios 2hr him LOL Eca any bst that dies to koios should be use as an example of what not to do
Ragnarok.Ecaroh said: » ...His ladybug pet kept hate most the fight which I found funny ... A good BST knows how to use snarl and stay alive... Have you ever played BST? Quote: His ladybug pet kept hate most the fight which I found funny AND he evently died when he pulled hate to many times and Koios 2hr him LOL Anyway... K-club is in fact, for Abyssea content and a bit beyond, (Dynamis, Salvage etc) one of - if not - the best possible DPS weapon choice for a BST's offhand. BST has an ability that allows them instantly offload their entire enmity and give it to their pet. After a few uses this ensures that hate does not shift from the pet in most cases. Apart from keeping a distance from Koios' deadly 2hr he wasn't doing as much wrong as you thought. Offline
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While I don't have any numbers or parses to back it up, I used to BST in dyna with offhand kclub. Gear wasn't great, no phorcys or anyhting, goading, tactical mantle, tanaris harness, tyrant ring etc. I mostly used Breidox for mainhand, before all the recent updates.
I eventually sold the kclub and bought currency for an Aegis, and when I returned to dyna on BST one day I was amazed at how slow I killed. I could definitely optimize my gear for better non-stp use but without really great gear I don't see how it can make that much of a difference. And then of course that really great gear would also make the kclub version that much better... Things felt twice as long to kill, often more. |
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