[Archive] Bushido - The Way Of The Samurai (A Guide)
[Archive] Bushido - The Way of The Samurai (A Guide)
It's been a good time for my SAM. Just finished my amano upgrade and am working my Polearm skill up. Finally got Sonic Thrust. It's f*cking HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE that SAM doesn't get it natively, but PLD does with its E rank skill.
Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
For Mastop and Muumuu anyway, ranged damage appears to be its own category.
Yeah I was looking at that too. Maybe both Polearm and Yochi at the same time. Melee hits get the bonus piercing damage and you got the option to switch between SD and AA based on which one is best. On Bee our 119 PLM DRG's typically beat everyone else on damage with AA SAM or Req BLU behind them. Piercing really owns that entire zone. Now every SAM should be able to take advantage of piercing damage phase on Tojil / Shark.
Don't really know if it's worth it to give up the Save TP +25 from tsurumaru for that. I doubt the piercing bonus from melee swings would be enough to give up the 35 TP return (50 if miser.)
Last I checked, assuming Ionis, they're both using 4-hit builds with or without Samurai Roll so you're not really giving up a lower hit build by using Polearm. I've never gotten Miser's Roll, but if you are (in addition to Samurai Roll) then I'd *maybe* stick to Tsurumaru for the 3-hit. The crazy piercing damage Muyingwa takes makes the Polearm look awfully attractive even with a 1 extra hit build.
He was talking about polearm + yoichi at the same time, I don't think the added melee damage is going to make up for the lack of 3 hit. More LS should really try misers roll in a 2 SAM 1 MNK pt and tell the MNK to deal, the damage increase is huge.
Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
He was talking about polearm + yoichi at the same time
Just picked up Wakido Kabuto +1. I could not find this info anywhere posted.
180tp w/ relic hands +2, 120tp w/o.
Sails winded...
180tp w/ relic hands +2, 120tp w/o.
Sails winded...
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Fenrir.Ramzus said: »
Lakshmi.Saevel said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
For Mastop and Muumuu anyway, ranged damage appears to be its own category.
Yeah I was looking at that too. Maybe both Polearm and Yochi at the same time. Melee hits get the bonus piercing damage and you got the option to switch between SD and AA based on which one is best. On Bee our 119 PLM DRG's typically beat everyone else on damage with AA SAM or Req BLU behind them. Piercing really owns that entire zone. Now every SAM should be able to take advantage of piercing damage phase on Tojil / Shark.
Don't really know if it's worth it to give up the Save TP +25 from tsurumaru for that. I doubt the piercing bonus from melee swings would be enough to give up the 35 TP return (50 if miser.)
Well everything has at least 25% damage bonus from piercing, maybe more. Bee takes double damage from piercing that I'm positive about, it's stupid crazy how much damage the DRG ends up doing. x-hit builds under 5 kinda suffer from the 2s forced delay from the WS when your at delay floor. Guess we gotta do the math between the two.
I know this is probably a noobish question, but how do I make my spellcast switch groups depending on which weapon I have set?
As it stands now I open my SC set up and manually switch the set I want to default, save, then reload SC. It sucked when I forget to swap it over when I switch weapons.
As it stands now I open my SC set up and manually switch the set I want to default, save, then reload SC. It sucked when I forget to swap it over when I switch weapons.
without a trigger you will need to set a variable for it. the easiest way is to just type //sc group masamune or whatever you call that group.
this is what I just started recently using
Still working on it to put in some more different options dependant on buff but as it stands, it works fine.
Code
<Variables> <var name="Koga">Kogarasumaru</var> <var name="Tsuru">Tsurumaru</var> <var name="Mura">Murasamemaru</var> </Variables>
Code
<if status="engaged"> <if EuipMain="$Koga"> <if buffactive="Samurai Roll"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Koga-Sam-Roll" /> </if> <elseif BuffNotActive="Samurai Roll"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Koga-Max" /> </elseif> </if> <if EquipMain="$Tsuru|$Mura"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Tsuru" /> </if> </if>
Still working on it to put in some more different options dependant on buff but as it stands, it works fine.
That's a big help by itself, at least now I don't have to keep tinkering with it every weapon swap.
How would I make a trigger for it though? My old DRK spellcast someone else made for me, and it seems to update which group it's in after I take any kind of action with a new weapon equipped. However, it's so old and cluttered I can't figure it out aside from replacing gear as I get new stuff, and sometimes that itself is a challenge. So I did my best and wrote a new one for same on my own lol. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it's working so far.
How would I make a trigger for it though? My old DRK spellcast someone else made for me, and it seems to update which group it's in after I take any kind of action with a new weapon equipped. However, it's so old and cluttered I can't figure it out aside from replacing gear as I get new stuff, and sometimes that itself is a challenge. So I did my best and wrote a new one for same on my own lol. I have no idea what I'm doing, but it's working so far.
I'm not really great with spellcast myself. I just try make sense of the more complex ones and steal the sections I understand and re-write for myself.
Using the 2nd part of the coding, you can pretty much use the same idea for weaponskill sets.
If X weapon is used, follow Y rules, else use Z rules etc etc. Just takes a little working out. You can then start to add different buffs into it, but I am willing to bet the guys that really know there stuff have a much simpler way of doing this.
Using the 2nd part of the coding, you can pretty much use the same idea for weaponskill sets.
If X weapon is used, follow Y rules, else use Z rules etc etc. Just takes a little working out. You can then start to add different buffs into it, but I am willing to bet the guys that really know there stuff have a much simpler way of doing this.
With the update the other day what makes a good entry set these days, I have similar sets to what is in the OP under middle tp/ws and wondering what I should be looking at first. If what I'm looking for was posted in the last couple pages and I missed it sorry for the unnecessary post.
Edit: I guess weapon helps, I have the gkt bought with sparks, from what I understand it's also important to have piercing damage too yes?
Edit: I guess weapon helps, I have the gkt bought with sparks, from what I understand it's also important to have piercing damage too yes?
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Should all be pretty easily obtained. Otronif might be easier to get, though. Note: I just threw it together without much real thought at all. Might have to use Tyrant's ring and WS in like, Hagneia Stone.
Should all be pretty easily obtained. Otronif might be easier to get, though. Note: I just threw it together without much real thought at all. Might have to use Tyrant's ring and WS in like, Hagneia Stone.
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What kind of sets are you guys using for the Eminent Lance? I don't know how it compares to Spleogen/Tsu for bee but I hoped to play around with it, assuming my ls does another bee run.
There's been a ton of new gear since polearm was any kind of relevant, LOL.
There's been a ton of new gear since polearm was any kind of relevant, LOL.
Anyone know if the AF hands are fixed?
I have a dumb question for WS options.
Given that I'm a noob SAM and not a career one, I'd like to get a better understanding of Fudo vs Shoha.
Playing around with them a bit on the Spreadsheet I came to the conclusion that when you're super-buffed and attack-capped or close to that, Fudo is the best option.
In other situations, especially with low buffs, Shoha wins.
Fudo has the other pros of SC properties (lv3, etc) and it's a single hit, which would make it better if we ever have to go SAM/THF again (lol) and also make it gain more from "WS damage/TP bonus" gear because they would affect the "whole" WS (single hit) whereas on Shoha they would only affect the first of two hit (which is the main one anyway)
Shoha has the pro of being 2 hits, which means it gets double the chances to proc multiattack (DA, TA, QA etc)
Is this correct or am I completely off track?
Given that I'm a noob SAM and not a career one, I'd like to get a better understanding of Fudo vs Shoha.
Playing around with them a bit on the Spreadsheet I came to the conclusion that when you're super-buffed and attack-capped or close to that, Fudo is the best option.
In other situations, especially with low buffs, Shoha wins.
Fudo has the other pros of SC properties (lv3, etc) and it's a single hit, which would make it better if we ever have to go SAM/THF again (lol) and also make it gain more from "WS damage/TP bonus" gear because they would affect the "whole" WS (single hit) whereas on Shoha they would only affect the first of two hit (which is the main one anyway)
Shoha has the pro of being 2 hits, which means it gets double the chances to proc multiattack (DA, TA, QA etc)
Is this correct or am I completely off track?
has anyone tested the Anahera Blade out? i wanted to see what kinda damage differential between it and other GK's play out, if anyone has and can test would be greatly appreciated.
I can test the JA haste on wakido +1 if someone can tell me how to do it properly. Just to confirm they have 2% ja haste or not
Asura.Sechs said: »
I have a dumb question for WS options.
Given that I'm a noob SAM and not a career one, I'd like to get a better understanding of Fudo vs Shoha.
Playing around with them a bit on the Spreadsheet I came to the conclusion that when you're super-buffed and attack-capped or close to that, Fudo is the best option.
In other situations, especially with low buffs, Shoha wins.
Fudo has the other pros of SC properties (lv3, etc) and it's a single hit, which would make it better if we ever have to go SAM/THF again (lol) and also make it gain more from "WS damage/TP bonus" gear because they would affect the "whole" WS (single hit) whereas on Shoha they would only affect the first of two hit (which is the main one anyway)
Shoha has the pro of being 2 hits, which means it gets double the chances to proc multiattack (DA, TA, QA etc)
Is this correct or am I completely off track?
Given that I'm a noob SAM and not a career one, I'd like to get a better understanding of Fudo vs Shoha.
Playing around with them a bit on the Spreadsheet I came to the conclusion that when you're super-buffed and attack-capped or close to that, Fudo is the best option.
In other situations, especially with low buffs, Shoha wins.
Fudo has the other pros of SC properties (lv3, etc) and it's a single hit, which would make it better if we ever have to go SAM/THF again (lol) and also make it gain more from "WS damage/TP bonus" gear because they would affect the "whole" WS (single hit) whereas on Shoha they would only affect the first of two hit (which is the main one anyway)
Shoha has the pro of being 2 hits, which means it gets double the chances to proc multiattack (DA, TA, QA etc)
Is this correct or am I completely off track?
Yep, you got it spot on.
The last statement about the 2 hits isn't really as much as a "pro" as much as something you just need to gear accordingly for. Since Shoha is two hits in one single event, stacking multistrike (DA, TA, QA) is advantageous because each hit in that single event can proc a multistrike.
Valefor.Mattyc said: »
has anyone tested the Anahera Blade out? i wanted to see what kinda damage differential between it and other GK's play out, if anyone has and can test would be greatly appreciated.
I played with it a bit and saw nothing special. Without making large change to the current sets on the DPS spreadsheet, the all around DPS lies around where Tsurumaru stands. There are still instances where you'd prefer the Tsuru (ie, Miser's in Ionis zone) but as a general use G.kat, it's good.
Valefor.Caelir said: »
this is what I just started recently using
Still working on it to put in some more different options dependant on buff but as it stands, it works fine.
Code
<Variables> <var name="Koga">Kogarasumaru</var> <var name="Tsuru">Tsurumaru</var> <var name="Mura">Murasamemaru</var> </Variables>
Code
<if status="engaged"> <if EuipMain="$Koga"> <if buffactive="Samurai Roll"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Koga-Sam-Roll" /> </if> <elseif BuffNotActive="Samurai Roll"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Koga-Max" /> </elseif> </if> <if EquipMain="$Tsuru|$Mura"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Tsuru" /> </if> </if>
Still working on it to put in some more different options dependant on buff but as it stands, it works fine.
If that is copied directly from your SC file you might wanna fix "<if EuipMain="$Koga">" typo in there.
Bismarck.Keityan said: »
Valefor.Mattyc said: »
has anyone tested the Anahera Blade out? i wanted to see what kinda damage differential between it and other GK's play out, if anyone has and can test would be greatly appreciated.
I played with it a bit and saw nothing special. Without making large change to the current sets on the DPS spreadsheet, the all around DPS lies around where Tsurumaru stands. There are still instances where you'd prefer the Tsuru (ie, Miser's in Ionis zone) but as a general use G.kat, it's good.
Thanks Keit appreciate it.
Asura.Darvamos said: »
Valefor.Caelir said: »
this is what I just started recently using
Still working on it to put in some more different options dependant on buff but as it stands, it works fine.
Code
<Variables> <var name="Koga">Kogarasumaru</var> <var name="Tsuru">Tsurumaru</var> <var name="Mura">Murasamemaru</var> </Variables>
Code
<if status="engaged"> <if EuipMain="$Koga"> <if buffactive="Samurai Roll"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Koga-Sam-Roll" /> </if> <elseif BuffNotActive="Samurai Roll"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Koga-Max" /> </elseif> </if> <if EquipMain="$Tsuru|$Mura"> <equip when="engaged|aftercast" set="TP-Tsuru" /> </if> </if>
Still working on it to put in some more different options dependant on buff but as it stands, it works fine.
If that is copied directly from your SC file you might wanna fix "<if EuipMain="$Koga">" typo in there.
Thanks! totally didn't realise that...... So been playing with the wrong gear sets without knowing so....
Ragnarok.Ejiin said: »
ItemSet 313488
Feet can change between Whirlpool and Ejekamal pending cratio, or Otronif with Ionis. This is, of course, assuming Wakido Kote +1 behave the same way as Unkai Haidate +2. I can check this out sometime late tonight.
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Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
This is, of course, assuming Wakido Kote +1 behave the same way as Unkai Haidate +2. I can check this out sometime late tonight.
On another note, I also did the test using just Unkai Haidate +2 out of curiosity and came up with the exact same number as Wakido Kote +1. Perhaps they were lowered to 2% after being changed to JA haste?
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If you remove the gloves and re-equip them, does the effect return or is it lost?
Remora.Brain said: »
If you remove the gloves and re-equip them, does the effect return or is it lost?
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
Bismarck.Llewelyn said: »
This is, of course, assuming Wakido Kote +1 behave the same way as Unkai Haidate +2. I can check this out sometime late tonight.
On another note, I also did the test using just Unkai Haidate +2 out of curiosity and came up with the exact same number as Wakido Kote +1. Perhaps they were lowered to 2% after being changed to JA haste?
the same haste, but do they stack?
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