Anonymous Responds To Obama's 2013 Gun Policy

Why would you take short ranged munitions to a clock tower?

Many Weapons were designed solely for killing on the battlefield are used and adapted to fulfill other purposes. Said weapons happen to be very good for self defense (Obviously).

Nearly every fire-arm invented was made for the purpose of war. Most hunting rifles are actually based off of the German Mauser's action.

Also here is the Mosin Nagant
People also tend to overlook these.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/Mosin_Nagant_series_of_rifles.jpg/479px-Mosin_Nagant_series_of_rifles.jpg


Very cheap at about $100 a pop. Troops returning from WWII adapted these and the Mauser for hunting as well. (If I recall the German's at one point had to rely on some confiscated Russian weapons near the end of the war? (So that would explain how Americans had them prior to milsurp being sold) People still use them because of the cost of the rifle and ammo.

The 1911 was also made for battle and it's main purpose was guess what... The taking of life because the 38 was not up to the task.. Yet it remains a popular choice for many normal people, sportsman and collectors as a self defense/target shooting pistol.

Also it is one of the least demonized pistols in the media.

why would you take a long ranged weapon to a close quarters situation

You wouldn't, which was my point.

so the comparison is dumb for a bolt action rifle and a machine gun in a closed room with lots of people.

One is obviously more optimal for that specific situation.

Only an idiot would take a machine gun to a clock tower. They would go to the mall for the close quarters.

Anyway you're missing my point I'm not against you on this yet you seem apt to putting words in my mouth. Classifying something as a weapon for killing humans because well it is... and something as a tool for hunting is far apart from saying that we need more gun control. I completely agree with you any gun can kill just some much better than others and in the end it's up to the wielder. Get off my ***.

Well this is going absolutely nowhere.

Every political thread on this forum, right here.

Imo the gun laws and regulations are already there. It just needs to be enforced.

There's like 20,000 something odd gun laws already in place yet it doesn't stop all the gun violence.
***needs to be stopped at the source of the violence. which imo~
is drug cartels and gangs. On top of that. enforce current gun laws and add more checks and screening for people who purchase the firearms.

At one point during the holocaust the Germans just lined jews up and shot them with a bolt action rifle because of the penetration those type of rounds have.

Realistically the machine gun would be out of ammo quickly. When was the last time a real machine guns were used to slaughter people by the way? St. Valentines Day Massacre? This was organized crime too.. They were already breaking the law in regards to prohibition.

Machine Gun are now heavily regulated.
Speaking of the clock tower.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman

Really sad story.. Also the guy had a tumor the size of a gulf ball. M1 Carbine and a shotgun, not an AR15, not a machine gun.

yay someone got the reference.

I saw your argument, I don't buy into it.

I'll agree with a previous poster that politcal convo on here is maddening, but what the heck I'm bored. I feel some of the people calling for bans don't know much about firearms. They want to ban what sounds "scary." I'll share the following link as this article can probably articulate better than me.

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/

Since you seem to want to argue this point so much even though I don't even care fine. I have one question though what would be the point of an M60 browning machine gun other than killing humans?

Compensation.

Cutting down trees, having fun getting rid of an old junky car, Asian Carp removal, taking out a herde of pesky hogs.


Honestly I wasn't arguing for machine guns. They are already well regulated.

If a person is rich enough to own one, has gone through background checks and given up their protections against searches and seizures to own one I doubt they will commit a crime with it since they are held liable for damages even if it was stolen.

This should apply to all firearms.

I honestly don't think they can afford to enforce current/future gun laws. Here is why...

Prisons are simply over crowding. Most of the gang bangers on the streets in rough neighborhoods are released early even though they are charged with said laws.

Say a magazine ban is passed, what are they going to do.. release serious offenders to make room for people who happen to have a standard capacity magazine? They surely won't waste money to expand our corrections system.

As for registration the BATF is already overworked processing SBR's/supressors prior to the panic (4-7 months...). So say millions have to register "assault weapons" all at once. Who is going to pay for more BATF/Filing/State/and Local Law Enforcement jobs?

Also take into consideration no new fire-arms could be created if they are banned. It would cost people jobs and a lot of mom/pop businesses would lose profit and eventually crumble. What is the solution.. a bail out? Right...

Either way It's going to come out of the tax payer's wallets in the end. So even if you don't own fire-arms you will be getting money taken out of your hard earned paycheck to pay for feel good laws. Not laws that make a difference, laws that only look good.

I was never arguing against machine guns yet you two jumped my ***so eager to prove someone wrong.

Also the hog part makes me sad. That's such a huge waste of good meat. :/

Fast and Furious anyone?

I agree but there are certain circumstances. You can have a really good quality safe but if they want it bad enough they will get it.

I recall reading about one theft where they chained the safe to a truck and just drove off with it.. The house was damaged naturally.

Side note, I'm pretty sure the caliber you'd need to cut down anything but a sapling is probably already illegal.

I was being sarcastic by the way.
Can still make Sausage? D:

On the plus side to make up for the damaged meat you still get lots of hog.

***happens, but I feel like the responsibility could be circumstantially waived with the proper police documentation.

I know you were employing hyperbole, I was just pointing it out.

I love myth busters.

762 is legal but to waste rounds like that would be crazy expensive.. Please tell me that isn't awesome though?

@arana
i don't jump into anyone's ***.
just proving a point which you agreed to.

I wanted to apologize if I appeared rude, but I was only pointing out the truth back there.

I don't have a problem with anyone's opinion on the matter, contrary to what might have been read.

Personally I don't see the difference in thrill between that and taking a chainsaw to a tree, though a chainsaw is considerably more work.

The only point I've ever made was that some guns are more radical. If you don't feel something that has as much killing potential as an M60 isn't radical given as even you've pointed out a hunting rifle will do the job then you're mad.