as a DRK main, I approve of this. This way, everyone's getting a chance to have a piece of the pie with /DRK without harming the main job.
at first glimpse I was freaking out that we were losing 10% JA Haste and that DB merits would be 1% per point, but I calmed the hell down once I realized that DB merits will still add 10%.
Thank goodness too, because after reading this, i'm glad SE is starting to learn that nerfs = bad, in any form.
Overall Battle System Adjustments For The Future
Overall Battle System Adjustments for the Future
Personally, I like the Main / Support job system, so adjustments that make additonal jobs situationally useful as support jobs get my seal of approval.
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I'm a lil confused as to how this opens up /drk though. Sub sam still offers the same JA haste no? But you also get the STPs, and meditate and sekkanoki. I'm just not seeing this being as big a bonus as they are trying to make it out to be.
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I'm a lil confused as to how this opens up /drk though. Sub sam still offers the same JA haste no? But you also get the STPs, and meditate and sekkanoki. I'm just not seeing this being as big a bonus as they are trying to make it out to be.
You can now cap JA haste as SAM/DRK.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
It's a buff to Koga Sam!
Bismarck.Kelhor said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I'm a lil confused as to how this opens up /drk though. Sub sam still offers the same JA haste no? But you also get the STPs, and meditate and sekkanoki. I'm just not seeing this being as big a bonus as they are trying to make it out to be.
You can now cap JA haste as SAM/DRK.
But lose all of the DA and zerk of /war. And couldn't you cap JA haste with AF3+2 haidate anyways?
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Bismarck.Kelhor said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I'm a lil confused as to how this opens up /drk though. Sub sam still offers the same JA haste no? But you also get the STPs, and meditate and sekkanoki. I'm just not seeing this being as big a bonus as they are trying to make it out to be.
You can now cap JA haste as SAM/DRK.
But lose all of the DA and zerk of /war. And couldn't you cap JA haste with AF3+2 haidate anyways?
Last resort gives 15% attack and Shoha has an attack bonus. Also, getting 25% JA haste is better than 12.5% JA haste and 10% DA, especially if you're a Kogarasumaru Samurai.
Not that it matters with lol abyssea making exp moot...
But if you get 15% haste from LR alone, that is one hell of a fun JA to have at level 15.
But if you get 15% haste from LR alone, that is one hell of a fun JA to have at level 15.
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Asura.Arkanethered said: »
Not that it matters with lol abyssea making exp moot...
But if you get 15% haste from LR alone, that is one hell of a fun JA to have at level 15.
But if you get 15% haste from LR alone, that is one hell of a fun JA to have at level 15.
LV30 SAM/DRK!
I thought sam could hit the delay cap with haste, march and hasso. Is this not correct?
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I thought sam could hit the delay cap with haste, march and hasso. Is this not correct?
Then getting 12.5% extra haste means you can drop 12.5% haste from your gear when LR is up, same thing DRK does now that helps make it super.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I thought sam could hit the delay cap with haste, march and hasso. Is this not correct?
Then getting 12.5% extra haste means you can drop 12.5% haste from your gear when LR is up.
Yeah, but is that REALLY necessary? I mean hypothetically, I don't see any gear swaps for DA/TA/QA/Whatever that you wouldn't be using in the first place. I mean.. ya COULD TP with windbuffet, but I'm not sure that's really worth it. Or is it? Especially from a Kogara sam viewpoint. You don't really want to devalue your Oat3, ya? You want that to proc or have the highest chance to proc, ya?
How many year this game been out?, and they are still adjusting jobs, and package it on the next patch as new content?. oh *** hell thank god I have stop paying them because my old CC info expired and too lazy to put in the new info :).
Chyula said: »
How many year this game been out?, and they are still adjusting jobs, and package it on the next patch as new content?. oh *** hell thank god I have stop paying them because my old CC info expired and too lazy to put in the new info :).
Who said this was "new" content? This is simply adjusted content. You have to re-balance stuff, when you do introduce new content (weapons, new WSs, and such). So what was your point exactly?
Chyula said: »
How many year this game been out?, and they are still adjusting jobs, and package it on the next patch as new content?. oh *** hell thank god I have stop paying them because my old CC info expired and too lazy to put in the new info :).
Great. That's cool. Nobody cares.
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I thought sam could hit the delay cap with haste, march and hasso. Is this not correct?
Then getting 12.5% extra haste means you can drop 12.5% haste from your gear when LR is up.
Yeah, but is that REALLY necessary? I mean hypothetically, I don't see any gear swaps for DA/TA/QA/Whatever that you wouldn't be using in the first place. I mean.. ya COULD TP with windbuffet, but I'm not sure that's really worth it. Or is it? Especially from a Kogara sam viewpoint. You don't really want to devalue your Oat3, ya? You want that to proc or have the highest chance to proc, ya?
Double Attack is still an improvement over Mythic AM3.
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I thought sam could hit the delay cap with haste, march and hasso. Is this not correct?
Then getting 12.5% extra haste means you can drop 12.5% haste from your gear when LR is up.
Yeah, but is that REALLY necessary? I mean hypothetically, I don't see any gear swaps for DA/TA/QA/Whatever that you wouldn't be using in the first place. I mean.. ya COULD TP with windbuffet, but I'm not sure that's really worth it. Or is it? Especially from a Kogara sam viewpoint. You don't really want to devalue your Oat3, ya? You want that to proc or have the highest chance to proc, ya?
Double Attack is still an improvement over Mythic AM3.
Well I know it takes precedence, but I just don't see what dropping that 12% haste would do for your builds, ya know?
Chyula said: »
How many year this game been out?, and they are still adjusting jobs, and package it on the next patch as new content?. oh *** hell thank god I have stop paying them because my old CC info expired and too lazy to put in the new info :).
An early contender for post of 2013 appears!
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Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
Odin.Eikechi said: »
I thought sam could hit the delay cap with haste, march and hasso. Is this not correct?
Then getting 12.5% extra haste means you can drop 12.5% haste from your gear when LR is up.
Yeah, but is that REALLY necessary? I mean hypothetically, I don't see any gear swaps for DA/TA/QA/Whatever that you wouldn't be using in the first place. I mean.. ya COULD TP with windbuffet, but I'm not sure that's really worth it. Or is it? Especially from a Kogara sam viewpoint. You don't really want to devalue your Oat3, ya? You want that to proc or have the highest chance to proc, ya?
Double Attack is still an improvement over Mythic AM3.
Well I know it takes precedence, but I just don't see what dropping that 12% haste would do for your builds, ya know?
No, no. Mythic AM3 averages at 1.8 hits / round, so DA still increases your average.
No, I get that Sy. But I'm still finding it hard to look through gear pieces, that would improve your DPS, in lue of the haste. Windbuffet was really all I could think of, as well as maybe TPing in Omodaka Sune-ate? 3% DA, 2 TA 1 QA. Will that outweigh /war's DA/Zerk/Aggressor/Warcry though?
Question: all the speculation reguarding /DRK assumes Hasso and LR(JA haste) stack and also it has no restriction to only 2-handers?
It's probably going to work out as:
Marches? --> Sub WAR, have a nice day.
No Marches? --> Sub DRK
Marches? --> Sub WAR, have a nice day.
No Marches? --> Sub DRK
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Excitingggggggg
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This is a topic that has been discussed in several threads, particularly one about dark knight being too powerful.
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Simply put, this adjustment will allow you to gain this effect in the case you use dark knight as your support job.
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Simply put, this adjustment will allow you to gain this effect in the case you use dark knight as your support job.
How does this even follow? DRK is too powerful, lets make it a viable support job?
Also..
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We are envisioning to make it so 1 merit point will yield a 65% status modifier, and each point afterwards will grant an addition 5% for a maximum of 85% (no changes to the max value).
Aren't the modifiers currently 100% when they are 5/5?
Tickmeoff said: »
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This is a topic that has been discussed in several threads, particularly one about dark knight being too powerful.
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Simply put, this adjustment will allow you to gain this effect in the case you use dark knight as your support job.
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Simply put, this adjustment will allow you to gain this effect in the case you use dark knight as your support job.
How does this even follow? DRK is too powerful, lets make it a viable support job?
Also..
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We are envisioning to make it so 1 merit point will yield a 65% status modifier, and each point afterwards will grant an addition 5% for a maximum of 85% (no changes to the max value).
Aren't the modifiers currently 100% when they are 5/5?
after alpha (which to my understand is a step in the damage formula) "100" is really 85 in reality, I believe is how it goes.
Pld/drk and nin/drk :D?
volkom said: »
Pld/drk and nin/drk :D?
Nin gets so much DW it's low enough attack delay without JA haste, no?
Please up the enmity cap for tank and lower enmity for mages and DD !
I remember the hold time, when the monster take care off tank ;)
I remember the hold time, when the monster take care off tank ;)
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Bahamut.Cuelebra said: »
Question: all the speculation reguarding /DRK assumes Hasso and LR(JA haste) stack and also it has no restriction to only 2-handers?
LR haste never had a 2h restriction to begin with, while hasso always has. And all JA haste stacks up until the cap, no reason they won't.
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