(Don't) Fear The Reaper: A Dark Knight Guide

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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-23 23:47:21
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Lakshmi.Prinnysmash said: »
Target: Qilin

Buffs: Last resort, Haste, Boost-Str(+20), March x2, Chaos, Fighter's, Monarch's, Stalwart's, Braver's.

Valiant and Latitude with:

Dark Depths
DPS 701.2

Coercion
DPS 708.8

Deluges
DPS 723.6

Using your VW gear set. Also I'm a taru so these numbers are for a taru.

I don't know about you guys but I've spent millions of gil and hours of my life on a smaller improvement than 15 DPS.

Now if our goal is something other than DPS, well maybe I'm in the wrong thread.

your calculations assume too much, my server your usually stuck with either brd or cor, not always both. I also am aimed mainly at T6 or final vw content, where as having relic and acc in atmacites wont do anything special on qilin
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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2013-04-23 23:56:34
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K... Ig Alima, eating food cause we care now. Red Curry Bun

530.4, 536.4, 546.5 Respectively.

Personally I'm not doing VW without 2 brds at a minimum for buffers. Also coercion barely wins if the only haste you have is from gear. That's the only way coercion wins.

Oh, or if you spend more time disengaged than engaged. yeah
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-24 03:22:31
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I think I'll give a try to Dark Designs/Valiant/Deluges. There's not only the da, but you also get the stp of /sam while being /war, which I think is worth something at least. And I use Caladbolg so the vit can't hurt for my torcleaverz.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-04-24 04:53:33
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ItemSet 298134
Valiant/Latitude/Deluges

This is my setup atm. Need to reso in Rajas ring, or Karieyh Sollerets.

6hit, Caps acc on Ig-Alima and the like with Aggressor or DE.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-24 06:19:37
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guess the numbers say im wrong, just another atma ill have to test and see what practical application gives me
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2013-04-24 07:12:43
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Lakshmi.Prinnysmash said: »
Target: Qilin

Buffs: Last resort, Haste, Boost-Str(+20), March x2, Chaos, Fighter's, Monarch's, Stalwart's, Braver's.

Valiant and Latitude with:

Dark Depths

Not to be "that guy" but did you use dark designs, or depths lol. I'm asking out of personal interest, not to harp on you.
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By Asura.Jem 2013-04-24 07:13:11
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I haven't ran any numbers recently but Soups set is identical to the desired set I worked out for myself after Salvage V2 release. So I'll happily endorse what he's posted!
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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2013-04-24 09:45:48
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Lakshmi.Prinnysmash said: »
Target: Qilin

Buffs: Last resort, Haste, Boost-Str(+20), March x2, Chaos, Fighter's, Monarch's, Stalwart's, Braver's.

Valiant and Latitude with:

Dark Depths

Not to be "that guy" but did you use dark designs, or depths lol. I'm asking out of personal interest, not to harp on you.

Sorry yeah, Dark Designs. Made me double check I actually set my spread set up right =x
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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2013-04-24 10:17:03
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
ItemSet 298134
Valiant/Latitude/Deluges

This is my setup atm. Need to reso in Rajas ring, or Karieyh Sollerets.

6hit, Caps acc on Ig-Alima and the like with Aggressor or DE.

Let's see...
If attack is capped (Bard Swap, Dia 2, 11 on Chaos Roll) Bale+2 beats Ares' +1 head.
This situation is an example of Pak +1 beating Augmented Armada. Marginally.
The atk from Atheling is more likely to matter than the acc from Letalis.

I am surprised to see Ogier's hands winning no matter what I do... cool.


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I lied about Ogier's Hands

ItemSet 298144

Food is carbonara. Attack is capped, all the bards I know have 4 songs.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-24 14:18:58
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on the note of vw, all this information would fit in great for the guide o.o
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By Asura.Jem 2013-04-24 15:45:19
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Whilst it might be optimum. I wouldn't really adv
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
ItemSet 298134
Valiant/Latitude/Deluges

This is my setup atm. Need to reso in Rajas ring, or Karieyh Sollerets.

6hit, Caps acc on Ig-Alima and the like with Aggressor or DE.

Let's see...
If attack is capped (Bard Swap, Dia 2, 11 on Chaos Roll) Bale+2 beats Ares' +1 head.
This situation is an example of Pak +1 beating Augmented Armada. Marginally.
The atk from Atheling is more likely to matter than the acc from Letalis.

I am surprised to see Ogier's hands winning no matter what I do... cool.


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I lied about Ogier's Hands

ItemSet 298144

Food is carbonara. Attack is capped, all the bards I know have 4 songs.

I'm at work so can't check myself but in your editted scenario wouldn't Augmented Valk Breastplate + Ogiers + Huginn Feet win? If someone has the Gil to carry Pak +1 around for the few scenarios it's applicable, then they can probably afford Huginn Feet too.
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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2013-04-24 15:56:07
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Totally forgot Huginn since it still seems so unrealistic to me.
Swapping Ogier's Hands and Huginn feet in wins.
The body Hierarchy goes Aug Adaberk > Pak > Aug Valk > Pak +1
Every body is 1 DPS better than the previous body lol

Also, at least on my server, the average cost to have Pak+1 crafted is about 10m, 600k per synth and it's t1 HQ rate.
Huginn feet on the other hand... 136m. still t1 but roughly 8.5m per synth.
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By Asura.Jem 2013-04-24 18:40:19
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If you're using Augmented Armadaberk in that scenario then you can switch out Hag Stone for Anger Bomblet and Tyrants for Ambuscade I think. You're gaining 12 STP from Ogiers + Pak to Armada so can drop 12 from Kari Feet, Tyrants and Hag Stone.

Or you could not eat Carb too I guess and keep some of the above. Not really a gain though if you're definitely attack capped though.

Pak +1 is about 1.3m per attempt on Asura. Although honestly I thought it was more than that when I previously posted. Didn't realise the Tanzanite Stone supply was so high now since when I checked like a week ago it was non existant.
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By IXJesterheadXI 2013-04-25 16:06:25
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Was curious what would be a good ws piece for entropy other than the legs from hexed hose, I have the abjuration but it never sells on ah even the nq ;;.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-04-25 16:34:57
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IXJesterheadXI said: »
Was curious what would be a good ws piece for entropy other than the legs from hexed hose, I have the abjuration but it never sells on ah even the nq ;;.
Valkyrie's Cuishes Can be augmented with STR +7! These probably aren't on the AH often either lol
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-04-25 19:07:26
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Asura.Hotsoups said: »
IXJesterheadXI said: »
Was curious what would be a good ws piece for entropy other than the legs from hexed hose, I have the abjuration but it never sells on ah even the nq ;;.
Valkyrie's Cuishes Can be augmented with STR +7! These probably aren't on the AH often either lol
added this detail :p
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-04-27 21:07:28
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Added Scourge WS set!
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-04-29 10:21:46
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i got bored so started reading, do a search for "sugar", we dont cast like a black magic!
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 00:49:49
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
i got bored so started reading, do a search for "sugar", we dont cast like a black magic!
If I read this sooner, I would've told you to go to bed!
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 20:55:16
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Apoc AM Hybrid TP/DT set updated, you can now cap haste with the new Haste+10% belt.
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By Ragnarok.Zeromega 2013-05-01 21:08:39
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Quetzacoatl said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
i got bored so started reading, do a search for "sugar", we dont cast like a black magic!
If I read this sooner, I would've told you to go to bed!
Quetzacoatl said:
I won't be sugar-coating this when I say that you won't be nuking like a Black Magic with these spells, given the lack of magic attack bonus gear and traits to support it. The least you can do with them, situationally, is by using them to gain TP by means of Occult Acumen.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-01 22:24:37
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Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
Quetzacoatl said: »
Ragnarok.Zeromega said: »
i got bored so started reading, do a search for "sugar", we dont cast like a black magic!
If I read this sooner, I would've told you to go to bed!
Quetzacoatl said:
I won't be sugar-coating this when I say that you won't be nuking like a Black Magic with these spells, given the lack of magic attack bonus gear and traits to support it. The least you can do with them, situationally, is by using them to gain TP by means of Occult Acumen.
Oh yeah, rofl
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-02 05:06:07
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Just made this 5hit /SAM for Senbak+1:

ItemSet 299433

Gets more than enough attack for make up from Attack- from Tactical, honestly. Any opinions, modifications?
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-05-02 05:08:16
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especially on some of the new content, where it's extremely difficult to get off the accuracy floor, you're probably going to be better off 6hitting that
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-02 05:25:19
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True that, would probably be better to swap in Tactical for Letalis in that case.

NQ can 5-hit no problem though. I would be more inclined to go with the NQ since DMG+1 STR+1 ATT+1 and ACC+1 is extremely marginal outside of the -14 to delay, as long as there are more Resolutions

edit: What an NQ Senbaak would look like /SAM

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By Lakshmi.Prinnysmash 2013-05-02 05:35:30
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Let's not forget Senbaak is probably higher than 110 crafting cap and the mats will be insanely rare for awhile.

I'm focusing on Bereaver since anyone can just go get one, pretty much.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-02 06:02:44
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Let's not forget Senbaak is probably higher than 110 crafting cap and the mats will be insanely rare for awhile.

I'm focusing on Bereaver since anyone can just go get one, pretty much.
I agree, although there's nothing wrong with exploring what can be built with it until then

holy god i need to go to bed
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-02 11:49:52
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Forgot to say it this morning- Added Senbaak/Senbaak+1 and Lacryma Sickle +1 in the Weapons section
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By Asura.Jem 2013-05-02 14:27:31
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Some of the new gear would be improvements in that NQ set. Mikinaak Greaves over Wrathwing is probably one (I assume they can be augmented with Acc +8 like everything else). Steelflash + Bladeborn Earrings would be an Improvement too.
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By Quetzacoatl 2013-05-02 22:07:41
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Asura.Jem said: »
Steelflash + Bladeborn Earrings
Those earrings are awesome... o.o

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