July Version Update...

I used to, then I got WAR and SAM to 75. It is fun to burn on flan when you don't have alot of time or want to afk+merit. Although that ghost is kinda weak and super easy to sleep+zone.

Edit: <<<Will stop derailing >< sorry.

I'd like to see some ninja updates as well. BTW nobody ever see a Dancer tank? It can be fun.

Officially announced. We get the armor pieces and 2 new medals.
AboutGawdDamnFrakkinTime SE!

My fiance plays DNC and tanks at times. >.>

Aside from that, beef another job as another tank calss (or in my case, improve) and I dont mean NIN. As WAR RDM SAM DRG (all 50+) and MNK I've tanked with /war. The only Job I've ever tanked as /NIN is THF. Tank thru damage, it works! XD

I read im sooo fecking hyped

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

SE doesnt need to make a new tank. We have PLD WAR SAM and MNK as well as DNC which has its own provoke so i think we are good on ACTUAL tanks. Make DD better for its purpose please.

Not disagreeing with you, but how many people actually invite DNC's to tank?

How many people invite DNC's at all? lol

i would invite dncs more if they would tank...or heal..or do anything aside from afk fight -.-

You must get some shitty DNC's, I'm busy as ***when I'm playing DNC lol

Don't hate! lololol... I think I'm a pretty decent DNC, but most of them TP in their AF gear, or don't heal party members, etc. As for the tanking, DNCs can but it really only works at 75 *safely*... You can face-tank for a while at 40+... but at that point it'd just be better to invite a real tank I'd say...

Edit: It's fun to DNC tank things in a duo situation on quest monsters, etc!

Oh hell yeah, I've said it before, but a DNC and THF duo is pretty hawt ^^

Oooh, I've never tried. ;D I usually just go with my RDM friend and he sits there and babysits me. @.@;

Was mentioned in the PLD v NIN thread, RDM/NIN is a capable tank and BLU has some strong hate tools as well. I've never seen RDM tank but I can testify to BLU's tanking ability, I've seen it in action and it's pretty cool. WAR SAM and MNK obviously can tank as well, though they may need more support than the other 4 depending on the specific circumstance.

With all these job that can tank, many of whom can tank quite well, I have to laugh a little at people who say we need more tanks. Kaeko's enmity testing should have put that line to rest ages ago.

RDM seems like it'd be a good combo, too...I just love the THF cause of the Accomplice and Collaborator...comes in handy when I get too crazy with the heals and such lol

Plus we do a good job of trading it back and forth and we both have decent evasion ^^

RDM duos well with most any job lol. THF has got to be one of my favorite duo partners because of Accomplice and Collaborator though.

>> Dubont

Can they hold hate

No

They are MP sponge

so again

NO

if those jobs were awesome tanks NIN wouldn't be a tank would it now?

For the love of Altana, stfu with the nin crap already and stay on topic, geez. keep your nin-peen in your sitabaki, and relax.

Sange!

They're not awesome tanks but neither is ninja, so we all have to make due.

Cool hate on NIn as much as you want when you need a tank and no PLD is seeking im pretty sure you won't have a MNK, WAR, SAM

tank birds b4 meripos

For exp party play IMO Pld sets a pretty high standard for a tank job. It isn't that we are short of tank jobs, we are short of ppl willing to play their job differently so they are able to tank. I never had blu or rdm tank for me, but def War and Sam can tank very well.

Personally, I would like to see War get some def buffs and some abilities to allow them to take more dmg for tanking since they have no cure abilities.

I think Nin needs an update but not in the tanking area. Make Katana skill A+, give us some affordable recipes for throwing ammo and fix it's weapon skills.

I tanked birds just fine with Sam. I haven't seen a War tank them very successfully but I have back-up tanked them with War. War def needs an update to beef them up enough to take compete as a tank option.

almost any job can hold hate better than nin....and i tank birds on sam tyvm. Iv also seen war and mnk tank birds better than nin ^^ so...yea =D anyway

NIN/WAR maybe... NIN/DRK is quite another matter 74+ with proper support and gear.

I would like to see Chocobo's roll for Corsair in some future update...

^
this and...a haste roll..

@ Dubont: No argument here, I didn't tank Nin to 75, I was strictly puller, DD, occasional enfeebs and if needed a back-up. I have 75 pld so I wanted to play Nin the way it was intended. Most ppl don't realize how fast Nin hits when they don't have to spam ninjitsu. I was able to keep up Sams and Drgs, save the WS which need ajusted for more dmg.

I bet Mnk can tank quite well if they keep up with their guard skill and some counter gear.

@ Jax: Yes, Choco roll would be awesome and I think it deserves it.

GO GO POWERNINJA! thats the ***im talkin about

<derail>

Was reading the Kaiten discussion a few pages back and was wondering, rather than doing Kaiten x5 for a total of 3 light SC's, wouldn't it be better to do Kaiten > Gekko > Kasha > Kaiten > Kaiten? This would be Distortion > Fusion > Light > Light. You're trading one level 3 SC for a level 2, but putting them in order means you're increasing the potential damage of both the level 3's significantly.

Also, if you're good enough to do a 6 hit SC (that's possible right?), you can just whack a Rana in front of all that for an extra Fragmentation. 7 hits? Add a Kasha in front of that too.

I don't know about you guys but I would like to see the newer jobs Blu,Pup,Cor,Dnc and Sch get the lvl 50 JSE rings/earrings as well as the lvl 70 JSE armors like every other job come on atleast bring these jobs up to the lvl of the rest don't screw us over just because we were added later

Also would like to see Sch and Dnc added to Salvage items either that or add another set idc which.

Finally add the new jobs to relics I some of the arguement aside from the jobs were added afterwards were that the jobs aren't around in that "era" but come on if you use that and its suppose to be an alternate present where we lost how would Sch and dnc have disappeared if we lost the war it couldn't have been outlawed if the governing bodies lost the war. Just my thoughts

Also don't you dare neft sch I don't care too much about getting an adjustment but don't dare harm my sch