Tier IV On Pudds?

Why do I see 6/6 parties of BLMs IVing all their puddings?

What problem do you have with that again?

because doing 1250-1400 damage tier IV for 170ish mp is a lot more efficient than doing 1500-1800 damage AM2 for 280ish mp

i should said more than that one smart *** sentence lol. Everyone should be casting tier III if you have 5-6 people is where im goin with this. It will kill a pudd for sure and save a ton of mp

assuming everyone is right there... but really T3 isnt more efficient then T4 or not by much so you dont save a ton of mp you just spread it out.

well in my party right now were Tier IIIing and its workin out great we need more mobs. I would say split into two groups of 3 (another thing i think everyone should start trying more) but we have a lvl 71 right now. T4 is like 178 MP and T3 is 121 just if you were wonderin

The actual mp cost isnt the issue its the dmg/mp. You could throw 30 T1 at it for only 40mp!!!

yea um...i'm usually not there

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well i mean one cast of Tier III from 5-6 people kills a pudd

or 3-4 T4...

im talkin full parties

So am I

3 groups of 2 BLM, near continuous chain.
2 groups of 3 BLM, near continuous chain.

Probably the better EXP from a manaburn PT. Then again, they could.. maybe.. be doing it for fun >_>

if ur doing puddings in a pt its for the peen, if it was for exp and using mp smart u would be solo or duo.

exactly

Idk I usually have a problem with keeping chain up to near continous more cause of respawn rates then mp issues. I only solo there cause of the near zero effort for crazy xp. Getting 760 chain 5 over and over is nice. If I had a full manaburn like 5blms 1rdm puller id go to the hill camp and aga3 burn wamouracampas 10 at a time lol.

(talking first about IV vs AM2) I think also a big part of this is the native accuracy of level ONE / TWO AM2 vs Tier IV, the accuracy of Tier IV will be noticeably better, and (imo) remains better until said AM2 is near capped (level 4-5.) Since a lot of BLMs -dont- have capped merits, and use Zhaylom as a exp buffer refiller... that kinda explains to me why I see them choosing Tier IV over their crappy level 1 Freeze/Burst II.

BUT Tier III vs Tier IV in 6/6 party... seems like a (hey i can do more dmg than you!) type deal to me but i dunno.

I only have 1 merit in each AM2 and acc doesn't seem to be an issue the mp/dmg kinda is but really this thread was about the spamming of lolT3

please re-read my full post

I submitted before your edit... nice try though

please excuse me for editing a post, I did not know it offended you.

/rerail,
how efficient is the aga burn vs 10 campas compared to party-burning jellys? Just curious as i have never tried/heard of aga-burning wamouracampas.

Oh I have no problems with edits its the

Kinda makes it sound like I just was being an *** and only picked and chose what I wanted to read

Well I havent done it for awhile... but when I did it was insane. Go pull alot do 1.5-2 rounds of aga3 immediately go pull again. Pulls took me around 3-5 min I think and the far ones were already respawned by the time you got to them usually. I seem to remember a good 20-30k an hour but your puller needs to be pro in order to actually grab them survive and keep them actually following him. Not to mention your blms are near death after first round of nukes wouldnt do it with less the 4 blms and a rdm

thats very interesting, sounds similar to a Astral burn except down-sized a bit. I'll definitely have to give that a try

Yeah similar but much more dangerous lol. Watched plenty of groups wipe alot to it. Timing is very crucial to say the least.

im not gona be able to reply for a while just like when i last left this thread but where is this aga party your talking about for 20-30k an hour and when im solo/duo at pudd camp how much exp would be considered great per hour cuz im usually in the party setting?

Also the epeen thing doesnt go for me idc what i do in a pt really im talking about efficiency. Whats the best BLM meriting you can do iyo?

more than 2 blm with a brd/cor/rdm or 3 blm at one puddings camp is pointless ... can kill them faster than they respawn and maintain a constant chain provided the blm aren't epeen happy and blowing their MP on ga3's, AM2's and know how to use aspir/drain constantly

When I am meriting in a party on puddings in a party we always follow this pattern.

Chain to #3
Rest to full (with decent hMP you will be full before the chain timer)
Chain to #10-12 inc the Troll's pup(depending on soloers)
Rest to full and start again

Killing 7-9 (the second killings section) with 6 BLM will take ~80% of their MP.

Depending on how quickly I get to the mob (therefore how many people have started casting) I will cast either a tier IV, tier III, aspir/drain or nothing.

Depending on you gear it takes 3-4 Tier IV to kill, so if 2 people are already casting an tier IV will just cast a tier III (and make sure I am first to the next mob to use a IV).

Some people don't think, they just run to the mob and hit the whichever tier IV is ready. This can lead to massive overkill (Blizzard IV to remove 2% HP). That is a waste of MP, drain or even Bio II would be more suitable.

You could have the whole party cast Tier III all day long, but I find having 2-3 use Tier IV and the other cast tier III or find the next mob is quicker.

Also means you don't need gravity (often), as the mob is dead within 5 seconds of being aggroed.

@ those that say 3 BLM + BRD is all you need. Very true, I just need to find a brd willing to give up a TP party to come to Mount Z.

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lol.. cute~

so you are saying the m acc of a tier4 and an AM2 are different depending on AM2 merits?



if ur blm has decent damage, solo is all u really need or 1-2 other blm, brd or rdm is just a bonus~



I was just asnwering ur initial question, you asked why ppl did un needed teir4's, i'll answer again. either cuz they are stupid blms or they just in the pt to e-peen compete. there are always those ppl in pts @ puddings who will comment on another persons big damage, this is most likely why most do it.

What the *** ? MaCC bonus only procs on MB lol... So w/e merits you have it wont change anything.