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The Sealed Dagger: A Ninja Guide
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By Asura.Saevel 2026-03-05 20:39:13
Parsing is kind of hard to compare because of others players engaging time, weaponsets, Nyame gear, enemy resistance. But I notice the 2handers miss a lot of weaponskills. I saw a GK Sam miss mumei 2-3 times on a limbus enemy, he had to do 5 mumeis to kill it lol
They miss 5% of the time, one out of twenty WS's. Just .. you don't get to choose which 5%.
By euvedant 2026-03-05 22:59:14
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edit: there's still room for improvement, I dont have alabaster mantle and my hoxne is r7, damage bumps up by 1800 with those 2 items. As for my tp set, my revelation is r0
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Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-06 03:06:47
I appreciate the video, I really do. It's stronger than I gave it credit for. I'm not surprised that a weapon that shines with max buffs puts out high damage when you throw on max buffs. Granted, it is also what I said earlier:
However, to get those numbers mentioned above, you need REALLY high effective TP. Kunim offhand is significantly weaker than just Hitaki when spamming Zesho meppo, but that's just the power of TP bonus. You'll need a couple extra seconds worth of TPing to get those numbers.
In the sets you posted, you shared Kunimitsu offhand, but in video you are pushing capped TP Zesho Meppos due to Hitaki OH (probably just to save time and show the potential of max damage, i get it). It reached nearly to cap with all buffs/attack cap and SV Aria (+2 earring, Ephramad's, ML50, SV Aria is what, 44% PDL?). You can push damage further/more consistent with Hoxne Ampulla too. With Kunimitsu Offhand and 3k effective TP, you likely hit all 99k anyways due to the extra DEX/AGI and WSD that Hitaki does not offer. So I'm sure it can hit cap, no dispute there. Good showcase.
I do wonder if Savage Blade would hit the cap or do same numbers under similar buffs, even without the AM3 PDL. That's still kind of my issue there. It took every single buff to make that kind of damage, if Savage under same buffs can hit those or damage cap consistently, its disappointing that a weapon class of C rank on Ninja that can be obtained in an hour can put out similar/better numbers than a weapon that takes 5+ months to build. That's too much of a gut punch. At that point you're making Dokoku V for the SC damage, ODT, AM3, and the glow. Meh. I know it's not directly a conversation about "Naegling vs Dokoku", but it feels like it always comes back to that. I guess if you close your eyes and forget Naegling exists, the Katana is in a class of its own xD
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-03-06 03:45:35
I do wonder if Savage Blade would hit the cap or do same numbers under similar buffs, even without the AM3 PDL. That's still kind of my issue there. It took every single buff to make that kind of damage, if Savage under same buffs can hit those or damage cap consistently, its disappointing that a weapon class of C rank on Ninja that can be obtained in an hour can put out similar/better numbers than a weapon that takes 5+ months to build.
Idk about you guys, but I've literally never hit 99,999 on NIN SB, unless it's a qutrub or some ***.
By Dodik 2026-03-06 05:44:20
It's hard to say how much of prime katana performance is down to the job or the weapon, since no other job can use it.
Prime dagger is bis for dnc, not so much for the other jobs on it.
I'd argue the katana is right where it should be, and close to the other 1h primes. It's naegling that skews everything because of how strong it is, even compared to prime sword.
By euvedant 2026-03-06 09:31:16
When I first got dokoku, I also experienced the disappointment. I just kept testing it and swapping items around in my set till I finally got it to push out some damage. I completely forgot to record naegling as well in the video, but I am positive it would have been 99k savages, even then I don’t want to be a naegling nin. My whole reason of putting up all the comments is to just showcase that it’s not a horrible as everyone thinks. What does suck about the katana is that you need a lot of STATS to get the damage higher. Not alot of players are going to have ml50, r30,+2 ear so their damage is going to be 10-15k under mine and that’s a huge difference. I’m at 49% pdl from gear, am3 on my own + 44.2% from stage 5 brd, so 93.2%. If I were to get rid of the geo in the video, I feel pretty confident it can still push out close to 80-90k by applying Tachi: ageha, dia 3 and eating food. Also the reason I think the katana is can come close to other primes is because they’re restricted to the Cap, except for limbus.
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Lakshmi.Alceste
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By Lakshmi.Alceste 2026-03-08 04:19:32
Is this guide up to date? It says last updated 2020?
By euvedant 2026-03-08 08:03:37
No
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By Lakshmi.Alceste 2026-03-08 14:30:05
Is there an up to date Ninja guide anywhere then?
Asura.Eiryl
By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-08 14:32:44
Fully, no, none are updated to 2026
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Finans_Gearset_Guides/Ninja
Up to fall 2025, no AAlimbus gear
By Warbandi 2026-03-08 14:55:30
Sorry im just curious what have ppl been using there nin at? Soloing there HTBF or escha nms?
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-03-08 15:09:32
Sorry im just curious what have ppl been using there nin at? Soloing there HTBF or escha nms?
This was nearly 3 years ago now, but I built mine up specifically for an Ongo 2 KI strat (we ended up beating it with 1 KI while practicing), but outside that, it slaps in Dyna-D Jeuno :P
There's some Unity NMs where shadows are still useful/necessary if you're soloing, and 1 Ambu in particular NIN was especially useful for, I'd have to dig in the archives to remind myself of which though.
Interested to hear what other people are doing with it.
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By Asura.Eiryl 2026-03-08 15:11:54
Qutrub Ambu (09/26)
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By Asura.Clintbeastwood 2026-03-08 15:29:03
Qutrub Ambu (09/26)
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Yup, that was it! I remember that being the only time Kannagi was actually useful.
Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-08 16:16:52
I mean, come on guys. Don't do this every spring, it's getting old.
Ninja can be used every single place a standard DD can be used. If the event does not destroy shadows (rare, but non -ga magic mobs like Apollyon), Ninja shines. If you ignore recast shadows, you can use Ninja anywhere. If you can abuse hybrids, Ninja's the top DD usually. If nothing else, Ninja is extremely self sufficient if it can live behind their shadows.
I've used it in Sortie 8b (yes we completed all bosses, Ninja can solo a/c objectives easily, probably b too). Blade Chi destroys AE, To destroys BF (ask for storm or threnody). 99k confirmed with the correct buffs. The biggest issues in Sortie is Ninja's best Non-SCing WS is Savage blade, which will conflict with the Bard/Cor, so you're going to either need to use Prime WS or Blade Ten. Both deal good damage, but they're not as strong as other WS like Origin/Mumei/Diarmuid (I'm stage 4 katana, 5 might be different story). Mikage is helpful to reduce subtle blow to basically nothing, which can help on Aita (Ninja can proc too). Shadows can block damage from BF's counters, making Ninja a great tank for it. Is Ninja ideal in Sortie? Not really, since everything wipes shadows, but it's good enough if you're geared to get the job done. I found recasting shadows a complete waste of time during fights, but that might be a good reason not to bring Ninja if you can't use shadows...PUGs probably won't take you on Ninja because they're mostly noobs that don't understand the job, so ymmv if you can get use out of it in Sortie. But it can be used there.
This month I've used Ninja in ambuscade with great success. I can tank the entire fight with fudo C/yagyy and never lose hate (Guttler will charm you). You can also use it as A DD. You can self fully debuff Flotiball so he's basically harmless to you. Just keep shadows up. Yagyu offhand helps the party stay alive from silly stuff like EES/Meikyo Shisui/Hundred Fists.
Ninja also shines in plenty of other ambuscade (iron giant, Gigas Teki etc). Literally every month because shadows are broken in ambuscade.
Dynamis-D - hybrids work on everything. Old content but can destroy everything
Segments - this is also old content, but Ninja destroys everything in here. Savage blade on everything that To/Chi/Teki can't 99k (ask for storms). Shadows are especially helpful here because nothing can wipe them except casters (ghosts, imps, flayers, skeletons etc). In case of wipes, I'm usually the last one standing keeping the group going because I can DD without taking any damage via San.
Limbus - can be used everywhere. This is casual content, don't need a 2h for this.
Crystal paradise - still necessary for standard comp
Sgili MB comp - can off tank adds, MB, Tank. Yagyu = endless hate
Probably some other bosses
Ninja is fine. Won't ever be DRG MNK SAM WAR DRK DNC but didn't need to be. Just use it when you feel like playing something else.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-08 16:26:22
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Lakshmi.Buukki
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By Lakshmi.Buukki 2026-03-08 17:27:21
And i get it, I really do. I discourage myself from playing certain jobs because of "teh metah", and its frustrating. Doesn't mean you can't play NIN. I mean, literally every current content is roaming around for 30~1h, fighting trash. There's no way you can't fit just about any job in all content if you want, just a matter of how much people feel the need to obsess about "Efficiency"
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-03-08 18:02:04
There's no way you can't fit just about any job in all content if you want, just a matter of how much people feel the need to obsess about "Efficiency"
Idk, I feel like 9 boss sortie, ongo (single KI), kalunga, arebati, ngai, xevioso, mboze, and bumba would like to have a word with you.
You can use NIN in just about any content you want. So long as the content accepts (literally any job you feel like being on)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-08 18:14:38
You cant use the meta jobs against Ongo either, but I dont see you referencing that.
The mere fact you're referencing Gaol fights knowing they are specifically designed to be done by certain damage types and immune to others makes your entire statement extremely disingenuous.
MNK isnt part of le meta, but you listed Ngai in your list. Let me know whos doing Ngai without MNK.
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-03-08 18:33:58
This isn't a thread about BRD, so I didn't list the fights where it can't be used.
Buukki made no claims about MNK being available in all content if you want, so I didn't list fights where MNK can or cannot participate.
I don't understand your point. Nobody was asking about or claiming that RDM can be used in all content. I was simply replying to his statement and making commentary about it, not trying to make a comprehensive list of all 22 jobs and how relevant they are to the current endgame meta.
If you can bring BST, SMN, RNG, PUP, or meleeWHM to the content, then NIN is probably also fine. That's not a particularly ringing endorsement of NIN, imo.
You can bring BST to Sortie 8b.
BST can take a DD slot in basically every ambu.
BST can DD for a dynamis [D] alliance.
You can full clear segments with a BST DD
Can fit a BST in Limbus
See?! BST is relevant in tons of content and can fit in all content you want, so long as you don't obsess about "efficiency"!
TBF, I agree with the overarching point, you can bring non-meta jobs to a lot of slop. I just think the part about "any" content is just conveniently ignoring all the exceptions to the "any".
So yeah. I stand by exactly what I said more succinctly earlier:
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »You can use NIN in just about any content you want. So long as the content accepts (literally any job you feel like being on)
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2026-03-08 19:10:30
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »This isn't a thread about BRD Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Nobody was asking about or claiming that RDM can be used in all content. Where the *** did these two jobs come from lmao
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2026-03-08 21:45:11
You cant use the meta jobs against Ongo either,
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