Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Let's just ignore the successful groups that use Ryunohige DRGs because they're not inside of your sphere then
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when did i ever say that? its much easier to say what would work best from the outside as you like to do, than actually having experience and knowing what works best.
I've done Mul plenty of times, and like to think I have a sound grasp on how the game works. Provide me with some proof, that isn't anecdotal, that tells me why a Ryunohige DRG utilizing both Drakesbane and Stardiver with constant AM3 won't be able to compete with a Ragnarok when they clearly will.
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Mythic drg is so gimp.
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Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Mythic drg is so gimp.
Not enough rawr in that Rawrnohige obviously
hey lets take ***out of context, cuz thats what i was totally saying right?
Not a lot of context to get wrong here. Somethingsomething about DRG beating a DRK meaning the DRK is gimp, obviously not because the DRG can actually do that; something wave 2~3 mul 5% crit not keeping up; something about 20+ Mul wins actually meaning *** all. Implies, to me, that you're trying to say Ryunohige isn't fit for the task, and that you shouldn't be bringing anything short of Ragnarok DRKs and WARs. Though from comments earlier in the thread, it would seem WAR is preferred over DRK too.
Asura.Kese said: »
Phoenix.Sehachan said: »
Mythic drg is so gimp.
Not a lot of context to get wrong here. Somethingsomething about DRG beating a DRK meaning the DRK is gimp, obviously not because the DRG can actually do that; something wave 2~3 mul 5% crit not keeping up; something about 20+ Mul wins actually meaning *** all. Implies, to me, that you're trying to say Ryunohige isn't fit for the task, and that you shouldn't be bringing anything short of Ragnarok DRKs and WARs. Though from comments earlier in the thread, it would seem WAR is preferred over DRK too.
I don't see the problem with drg. Ryu is an extremely powerful weapon and Stardiver is ***; Drakes may be inferior but AM3 is rather easy to keep up on this job. And I wouldn't disregard Angon's utility either for this event.
Feel free to bring warriors only to rotate BR, sure it's awesome, but I think there's a difference between efficiency and narrow-mindedness.
Derailed topic is derailed.
Feel free to bring warriors only to rotate BR, sure it's awesome, but I think there's a difference between efficiency and narrow-mindedness.
Derailed topic is derailed.
Screw you all. Mnk is the best and only job capable of DDing in Mul and the only time any other DD even comes close to our dps is when wars 2hour.
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Better change your flag to French sir
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-Tomahawk for the Paramount Botulus
-Ragnarok Warrior
-Mighty Strikes
Angon is probably near useless for the majority
-Ragnarok Warrior
-Mighty Strikes
Angon is probably near useless for the majority
Odin.Sawtelle said: »
Screw you all. Mnk is the best and only job capable of DDing in Mul and the only time any other DD even comes close to our dps is when wars 2hour.
I couldn't find it ;-; where'd it go D:
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
-Tomahawk for the Paramount Botulus
-Ragnarok Warrior
-Mighty Strikes
Angon is probably near useless for the majority
-Ragnarok Warrior
-Mighty Strikes
Angon is probably near useless for the majority
i hate to be the sober guy at the party but this seems A LOT off topic to the point where no one is even sticking to the thread question anymore. drg arguments in the drk forums...
OP's question has already been answered, as long as he doesn't care it doesn't really matter. Shifts in conversation are completely normal.
think the questions from the OP were already answered~
edit: and I was beaten.
edit: and I was beaten.
you're welcome sir
A friend linked to me to a discussion on bg with Ageha landing on some high-end things, infact the main contributer was Prothescar.
Yeah Angon isn't much of a factor in it at all, which is why I haven't mentioned it
Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
A friend linked to me to a discussion on bg with Ageha landing on some high-end things, infact the main contributer was Prothescar.
Pretty sure it's just on the test server for now, hopefully they'll actually implement it.
Hoping it's carried over. It seems to have been a single widespread issue since every broken magic accuracy "trait" on spells and weaponskills has been fixed at once.
seems to me the 'normal' thing to do would be to make a Drg in legion thread in the drg forums and do this there but if i'm THAT guy then forget i said anything
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Better change your flag to French sir
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I did some testings of my own in the odd occasions I SAM to Mul. Aside the two naraka, everything else died too fast to test. It landed on both Naraka in Mul, due to a shitty experince with the wave2 Naraka, we didn't get time to fight a Botulus, and the gallu died too fast
Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Yeah Angon isn't much of a factor in it at all, which is why I haven't mentioned it
Someone mentioned Drake's attack penalty, Angon fixes that, though only for 90s out of 180. There is some use to a -25% defense debuff, especially if someone isn't at capped ratio.
With ryu, drakes actually still is on par with or slightly better than stardiver on wave 2 and 3 from what i've found.
Lakshmi.Vitali said: »
With ryu, drakes actually still is on par with or slightly better than stardiver on wave 2 and 3 from what i've found.
While drakes is still slightly better, I typically toss in a stardiver per mob, in the hopes it might help unfloor my crit rate. Helps the other DDs a bit too.
yea, we also do a blood rage rotation too so it's up a large amount of the time. maybe with rahmu's favor we'd be able to overcome the -30.
Strange said we were still floored vs. Wave 2 even with the BR rotation, so we switched to warcry so we can get a little boost at least. Floor is 1%, not 5%, and we should probably stick to a blood rage rotation so our ws boost uncaps us.
I should start with a 18% minimum crit rate in Mul. If I parse 1% despite blood rage, the penalty may be even larger than we thought. With stardiver and blood rage you would expect a 43% crit rate.
Also, I suspect monsters in mul have an increased crit rate when they hit me. Almost every mob in the game had a floored crit rate on me due to my enemy crit merits, but last night I was eyeballing an uncapped crit rate on mobs hitting me. Perhaps that mob crit rate gear is less of a joke than I thought.
I should start with a 18% minimum crit rate in Mul. If I parse 1% despite blood rage, the penalty may be even larger than we thought. With stardiver and blood rage you would expect a 43% crit rate.
Also, I suspect monsters in mul have an increased crit rate when they hit me. Almost every mob in the game had a floored crit rate on me due to my enemy crit merits, but last night I was eyeballing an uncapped crit rate on mobs hitting me. Perhaps that mob crit rate gear is less of a joke than I thought.
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