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By Cerberus.Lotmorning 2012-09-10 12:27:53
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So I have been away for about 4-5 months because of school and was wondering if there has been a new attack food that is the prefered food to use for things like ADL, Odin II, Legion ect. Thank you in advance for any helpful answers.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-09-10 12:29:44
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ffr there's a thread for this:
Random Question thread (FFXI related)
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By Cerberus.Lotmorning 2012-09-10 12:34:30
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Well considering I was asking in regards to endgame events I posted in the endgame thread.

EDIT: Thanks Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-09-10 12:34:33
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RCB is still the food for DDs.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-09-10 12:36:32
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Just and fyi. Going through possibly 80+ pages in a "random question" thread seems like alot of annoiying reading to get this answer lol. I honestly wouldn't read that all.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-09-10 12:38:46
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Or you can just post there and bump the thread without creating a new one. wasn't meant to be a big deal...
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By Bahamut.Bojack 2012-09-10 12:40:53
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Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Just and fyi. Going through possibly 80+ pages in a "random question" thread seems like alot of annoiying reading to get this answer lol. I honestly wouldn't read that all.

I think Eugene's point was to go to that thread and ask. But anyways, RCBs I assume is the best bang for your buck. I use those for high-end things. I use Yellow Buns for 90% of VW because I don't think a 15k food for easy fights is necessary. I use Marbled Steak for Dynamis because it's a nice boost for how cheap it is and lasts the whole time.
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By Siren.Fupafighters 2012-09-10 12:55:15
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Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Just and fyi. Going through possibly 80+ pages in a "random question" thread seems like alot of annoiying reading to get this answer lol. I honestly wouldn't read that all.

I think Eugene's point was to go to that thread and ask. But anyways, RCBs I assume is the best bang for your buck. I use those for high-end things. I use Yellow Buns for 90% of VW because I don't think a 15k food for easy fights is necessary. I use Marbled Steak for Dynamis because it's a nice boost for how cheap it is and lasts the whole time.
Dooah. My bad haha i get it.
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By Jassik 2012-09-12 10:46:35
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So people are rating RCB over hellsteak? Is it just because they don't stack or am i misding something?
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-09-12 10:48:26
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-09-12 10:51:56
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Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Bahamut.Bojack said: »
Siren.Fupafighters said: »
Just and fyi. Going through possibly 80+ pages in a "random question" thread seems like alot of annoiying reading to get this answer lol. I honestly wouldn't read that all.
I think Eugene's point was to go to that thread and ask. But anyways, RCBs I assume is the best bang for your buck. I use those for high-end things. I use Yellow Buns for 90% of VW because I don't think a 15k food for easy fights is necessary. I use Marbled Steak for Dynamis because it's a nice boost for how cheap it is and lasts the whole time.
Dooah. My bad haha i get it.

As a point of clarification since we might as well put this thread to good use: I NEVER backread RQT when I'm looking for an answer. I do backread to try and be helpful to someone else if i happen to know an answer but I think it's assumed that no one reads through all that to see if it's been asked before.

That being said: Should I ever be called out on asking a question for the xxx time in that thread I will be more than happy to ask it again until i get/remember the answer lol.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-09-12 10:53:14
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Jassik said: »
So people are rating RCB over hellsteak? Is it just because they don't stack or am i misding something?
Uhhh cause 24% is more than 19%?
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-09-12 10:54:37
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Jassik said: »
So people are rating RCB over hellsteak? Is it just because they don't stack or am i misding something?

Hellsteak is 19% (unkown cap) vs RCB which is 24~25% and has 150 cap @ like 650 base. Unless testing is done otherwise, I'd believe it would also cap lower.

edit: comparing to Dragon Steak: 20% caps 150 @ 750. According to the lolfail wiki food page, the general cap for Attack foods was 150, being Dragon meat foods, so I do imagine hellsteak would be the same.
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By Bismarck.Angeleus 2012-09-12 11:02:51
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Cerberus.Eugene said: »
Or you can just post there and bump the thread without creating a new one. wasn't meant to be a big deal...

Or you can ask a mod to move this thread if it concerns you that much for you to post and complaint...


Just saying...
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-09-12 11:14:14
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Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said: »
Jassik said: »
So people are rating RCB over hellsteak? Is it just because they don't stack or am i misding something?
Hellsteak is 19% (unkown cap) vs RCB which is 24~25% and has 150 cap @ like 650 base. Unless testing is done otherwise, I'd believe it would also cap lower. edit: comparing to Dragon Steak: 20% caps 150 @ 750. According to the lolfail wiki food page, the general cap for Attack foods was 150, being Dragon meat foods, so I do imagine hellsteak would be the same.

I really should be less lazy and test all the "unknown cap" food.

To better answer the concept of this thread I would still base my food preference on what content were doing. Being incredibly lazy I normally eat a hydra kofte (same attack as RC with defense to boot) with an increased food duration bonus on. However, I would rather see a ukko war use pizza in legion than have 60% accuracy (or whatever under 95% etc). I'm also not opposed to a DD using yellow curry if I know they are doing it because nigh-fodder content instead of being cheap.
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By Jassik 2012-09-13 00:36:40
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Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said: »
Jassik said: »
So people are rating RCB over hellsteak? Is it just because they don't stack or am i misding something?
Hellsteak is 19% (unkown cap) vs RCB which is 24~25% and has 150 cap @ like 650 base. Unless testing is done otherwise, I'd believe it would also cap lower. edit: comparing to Dragon Steak: 20% caps 150 @ 750. According to the lolfail wiki food page, the general cap for Attack foods was 150, being Dragon meat foods, so I do imagine hellsteak would be the same.

exactly my point, how often as a heavy DD are you less than 650 attack...
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By Garuda.Chanti 2012-09-13 01:08:33
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If I need Acc as well its PIZZA. Remember, no matter how drunk you are you can always say pizza.

Otherwise its RBs or other Dragon meat foods.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-09-13 07:06:45
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Jassik said: »

exactly my point, how often as a heavy DD are you less than 650 attack...


However, the uknown attack cap is most likely 150, if not less. If it happens to be higher.... then I guess it would be the better food >.>;;
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-09-13 07:43:48
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Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said: »
Jassik said: »
exactly my point, how often as a heavy DD are you less than 650 attack...
However, the uknown attack cap is most likely 150, if not less. If it happens to be higher.... then I guess it would be the better food >.>;;

WHATEVER JUST DISCOUNT MY POINT OMG.

It would depend on whatever the % increase is. +200 attack at 900 base isnt doing anyone any favors for 95% of the content.
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By Ragnarok.Erikthecleric 2012-09-13 07:46:02
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Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Ragnarok.Erikthecleric said: »
Jassik said: »
exactly my point, how often as a heavy DD are you less than 650 attack...
However, the uknown attack cap is most likely 150, if not less. If it happens to be higher.... then I guess it would be the better food >.>;;

WHATEVER JUST DISCOUNT MY POINT OMG.

It would depend on whatever the % increase is. +200 attack at 900 base isnt doing anyone any favors for 95% of the content.

<3 D: You already had a good point omg.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2012-09-13 08:01:52
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Bismarck.Angeleus said: »
Cerberus.Eugene said: »
Or you can just post there and bump the thread without creating a new one. wasn't meant to be a big deal...

Or you can ask a mod to move this thread if it concerns you that much for you to post and complaint...


Just saying...

It wasnt a complaint...


Cerberus.Eugene said: »
ffr there's a thread for this:
Random Question thread (FFXI related)

It was helpful advice for a returning player who just came back to the game and who will probably have a few more random questions.
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2012-09-13 09:00:33
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Arrabbiata is -2 str -30 attack for 5 stp and 125 HP vs red curry buns. While it's rare/expensive, it's the best option for any situation where you are capping attack and gain any WS frequency(doesn't need to be an xhit, regain everywhere and randomly getting hit, it still amounts to 1-2% ws frequency on most jobs which'll easily beat 2 str). The extra HP isn't awful for like, neo-NI if you go off on your own or some legion/voidwatch either.

If you're using yellow curry because of attack cap, consider carbonara. It's not terribly expensive and gives 175 hp, 6 stp, 4 str, 65 attack.
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By Jassik 2012-09-13 09:25:40
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I use carbonara for dyna and other solo/lowman when a def food isn't warranted. But with just zerk/hasso i'm over 1000 att, i'll test the cap on hellsteak today
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By Jassik 2012-09-21 09:40:44
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Just an update. I can't get my attack high enough to find the cap on hellsteak without minuets or rolls so atm i still don't know if hellsteak beats rcb. I'll enlist the help of a ghorn brd friend this weekend and put it to rest. But it looks like hellsteak does indeed cap higher than rcb in seriously high attack situations. A drk/war would have an easier time testing this than i can with sam/war and the cooldown on a 3hour food, lol.
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