Ninian's Guide To Chocobo Raising V2

Pardon my ingorance, but I'm having issues getting this one working. It states in the lua that I need logger and coroutine to run this. I have logger, but to be honest, I'm not really sure what it means by coroutine.sleep. I did a brief google search and found some posts on the windower forum but I'm left confused as to what I'm looking at.

Freeruns uses packets to skip the menus and npc dialogue/cut scenes and does not function like ChocoRace with is more like a script for automating the menus prompts. Sorry Dekar can't assist as I never used the addon.


I would suggest switching to Delivering Messages already until STR is capped, typically occurs around day 50-55 then switch to Digging for Treasure on the remaining days before 65, you can start racing once STR is in the ~150 range.

this hype train is getting to never before seen levels

Your win rate for Free Races really shows me how far behind my Chocobo is. I had no idea you could get First place that many times in a row. I might just rush my next Chocobo so I can start building up Chocobucks as fast as that.

Sorry guys, I know you're looking forward to my addon, and I'd love to get it out, but I'm still waiting on the Windower team to merge dev to live to get the changes in. To answer a few questions:

Essentially, the addon recreates the menu event VM packet flow that a player generates when going through the free runs menu series. This lets you avoid the client delays when selecting options and pretty much just march through all the packet series in order. The game already gives you the option to skip the race cutscene, and that is used.

It takes roughly about 5-10 seconds to complete one "run" this way, depending on if you use things like PacketFlow and whether or not you want to use an item (which needs to be selected before each run, adding two more menu options). The addon currently runs them in sets of 8, so about a minute or so on average for me.

For those unaware of how free run cycles work, there's basically a repeating cycle of 8 sets of birds that show up on your run. There's three "super birds", one from each nation, who actually have capped stats and Gallop + Canter, and are generally the only challenge for a properly statted racing bird.

For five races, you will have one of these super birds, and six NPCs of varying weakness levels as your opponents. For the next two, you'll have six weak birds with no super birds at all. And for the last one, you'll get all three super birds in the same race. Everyone seems to start at a different "offset" into this cycle, so your first free run ever might be one of the weak races, or the one with all three super birds, etc. You can really only figure out where you are in the cycle by checking your opponents manually before a race.

Without using speed apples, you generally will beat a super bird about 50% of the time. So that means for five races you'll either be 1st or 2nd, two races you'll always be first, and the last you can be somewhere between 1st and 4th. Using a speed apple, the odds of beating them is upped to maybe 75-80% or so? But it's up to you to measure the gil cost vs the chocobucks earned.

My addon allows you to specify if you want to use speed apples on specific races in the series, so you can decide if you want to never use them, use them only on the hard race, on all races with super birds, etc. But you'll have to determine which races are which, or run single runs to align it however you want.

I don't really do free runs any more, but when I did, I usually only used apples on the hard race, and I'd get between 26 and 40 chocobucks per set of 8. I'd usually do 2-3 sets per day, depending how desperately I needed trains. Once you pass 3 sets you're spending more than the AH cost for trains tend to be (assuming they're around 100k).

Example time from me:

I'm assuming this is just to get racing sooner. Should I start jamming STR Chocotrains too while i'm delivering?

My understanding is that prior to day 64 you get the full benefit, and after its only +2(?)

That's incorrect. "Race Chocotrains" will always give you +5 to a stat but can only be used pre-retirement. For the first three stats that align to 2s, you'll either get +4 or +6 per use. RCP will get a flat +5. Technically, you should just buy the stat training directly from the NPC, it's 10 bucks cheaper each if you do.

It's the "Chocotrain" ones that will only get +2 to a stat, but those are only usable once you've retired the bird. You can do that as soon as day 30, but as late as day 128 (when it happens automatically). Day 64 is just when you stop getting stat gains from daily plans and such.

Ahh ok. So dont bother with Chocotrains until after 64 and just focus on daily plans for maximum benefit.

Do you agree with Zedoma that I should pivot to STR now that i'm A DSC? I'm guessing that's advice simply to get racing sooner, which makes total sense.

I was planning to get DSC to 224/226 then pivot to STR chocotrains and carrying messages, but ultimately it's the same thing just different chocotrains to achieve the final end result right?

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Rereading all my notes and stuff, i simply got mixxed up and thought retirement was day 64. So knowing all this now, Retirmenet means it's done done, no more new stats. Basically my LAST few days will be wiggling the stats up and down to my final desired #'s and then retiring it to snapshot it in place.

I'm still aiming for the 254/32/226/128 that you had suggested to me a month or so ago so I can be SS/D/S/B with the saddle

If you have Race tokens or bucks for chocotrains from the npc use them. That's how you go about power level raising a bird quickly. Feed all the Race:tokens you can except for END. Non race tokens are used to tweak stats once a chocobo is retired.

Kayte agrees with me, as she raised the majority of her birds based on my findings. Kayte and I have raised perfect DNA birds of each color on Bahamut.

You want to go STR plans on day 31 so you can start Free Racing as soon as possible to farm chocobucks. Around 150 STR you can start to win some races or 2nd place the bulk of them.

Plans ability to alter stats ends on day 64 not retirement. Retirement is when you select the option or day 120. Non race tokens will then function to modify stats +2 per token. This is where you "wiggle the stats" as you put it.

Also as long as you don't talk to the NPC for raising, it won't auto retire, so you can continue to use the better chocotrains.

I have a question about Racing progression. What's the difference between the C4/C3/etc races and the "Official Races" called: Novice Race 1/2/3, Challenge/International Races?

Which ones do I need to complete title for the Vorseal?

Edit: I signed up for a C4 race for the first time, and I can see my bird's stats here, if you don't use the Windower addon. Anyway, it's kind of funny you have to go to this length to see your bird's stats ...and not from the NPC helping you raise it?



Edit again: I found the page with the answer: https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Chocobo_Racing_Guide#Official_Race ..I was so caught up in Raising guides, that I didn't think to check old wiki for racing guide.

When my bird automatically retires at day 129, can I no longer do Free Runs to earn chocobucks? do I have to build a new choco at that point?

if by free run do u mean the one that costs 100 200 300 etc no u can keep doing them mine retired @ day 70 and i do those daily

Much appreciated! Thank you!

I'm on day 54 and havent encountered Brutus enough to get the Canter chocobo story (curious chocobo). Its my understanding that receptivity may affect npc encounters and that abilities are harder to learn later on. Is there a point pre-retirement where I get locked out of learning abilities? My RCP is falling but likely wont get floored before capping str or hitting day 62. Would it be worth starting RCP early to increase the encounter rate or is this bad info? DSC is better than average so it shouldnt be a barrier

Nope, just recently confirmed by Kayte in fact.

Do you have access to Hi-elixirs? Can feed up to 3 per day on empty stomach which really helps in running into Brutus.

Cool I can be patient. Ive been campimg the checking the ah for those things to fix my affection on some of my birds (I forgot to check on them). But I'll keep doing it to spam walk. The dumb leaf is not something I want to grow

Fellow sickos: I'm real bad at packets. Could anyone take a crack at modifying Ivaar's chococard so that you can get the stats from checking on your chocobo while you're raising it?

That way you can see exact numbers before it's old enough to get a card! It's not completely useless.

(The real underlying purpose here is that you'd also be able to see its genetics, and therefore its color, when it's still young enough to Parasite Worm them... which I believe works based on some offhanded references on ffxiclopedia?)

So question:

I have to leave on a trip in a couple days.

I believe I'll miss days 43-49 of care for my chocobo, mainly observing/walking/Feeding

Am I screwed?

Obviously it'll follow my laid out care plan... but I'm skeptical things will go well

is this true? trying to trade hi-elixer to Hantileon and he acts like nothing happened.

So chococard works on eggs, provided that they are bred and not an egg you bought. Obviously the egg won't have any stats, but it'll tell you what ability it has plus the color genetics. If you're already raising your bird then that's not going to help you though.

Sorry I meant these: hi-chocolixir

Dex I would recommend switching to Basic Care on those 6 days you will be unable to check in. The adult plans hit affection pretty hard and a full week without feeding to counter could cause a run away.

And I am already raising my bird, so uh... yeah.

Thank you, for sharing the lua! May i ask about the readme? I cant see it at:
https://github.com/Manque596/FFXI/blob/main/ChocoRace.lua

Thank you in advance.

Like many making my bird. Like dex, I’m going away for 10 days, days 42 to 52, so pretty much screw. If I understand correctly, it stop leveling up stat at day 64, so far each message delivered give my bird 4 STR, a lucky kamp kweh is 2. So gonna need a lot of Choco card…. But I am gonna play lottery with keeping delivering message, because day 52 is just too late to reconvene. Even with a bird not running away, it can’t make it by day 64 to cap, not sure I understand the better way

Any idea why Mythril Saddle is not showing up for me on C4 signup? It used to before the update, but even though San D'Oria is Dominant and in first-place, not showing. Is it a bug or something?

Means Sandy's racing team was not in first place last Sunday on tally.

Maintenance resets it? So I have to wait until Sunday for it to update?

Not maintenance but Sunday tally. Access to 1st place saddles and 1st place chocobuck items are based on race team rankings from the previous week and not the current week.

Is there a secret or key for Brutus to show up? Trying for many days now (including using multiple Chocolixirs each day) but nothing. I have the choco-whistle so no more cs looking for something on the bridge (long walk).
Advice would be appreciated.