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 Lakshmi.Rearden
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By Lakshmi.Rearden 2012-08-01 18:53:03
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anything to make an irrelevant job qq
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By Sylph.Traxus 2012-08-01 19:08:41
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Hades.Stefanos said: »
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BST was never the best job to farm dynamis at any point in time, even before the TH nerf, so, basically, who cares.

Care to explain why?

TH1+1 blu/dnc was always better.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2012-08-01 19:22:08
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Sylph.Traxus said: »
Hades.Stefanos said: »
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BST was never the best job to farm dynamis at any point in time, even before the TH nerf, so, basically, who cares.

Care to explain why?

TH1+1 blu/dnc was always better.

Yes, because TH sashes from LTP are so easily accessible.

BST hands down is the easiest job to go in, kill TEs, handle links and farm a decent amount of currency without relying on friends, a dualbox or large amounts of hoops.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2012-08-01 19:27:49
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That still doesn't refute his point, its not the best job to do dynamis on. It might be one of the easiest but its not the best.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-01 19:30:19
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I just had a cow.

Seriously though. Dynamis currency, at least on Cerberus, is at an all-time low. Almost 5k per T. shell. If they intended to make Dynamis currency less prevalent, they *** failed.

You're complaining about that why? Just means relics are slightly easier, albeit time consuming, to obtain. To prove my point, I got to stage 4 horn before setting foot in Dynamis at all, which come to think of it was a total waste of money given how easy it is now (with a little practice)

I do foresee currency prices starting to bottom out, now that an abundance of people are completing relics.
Nerf X because of Y. Y happened anyway.
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By Asura.Xredx 2012-08-01 19:32:41
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meh my bst still will out farm any other job so balance is struck.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-08-01 19:34:19
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Glad I'm done with dyna before the shitstorm even started.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Headache 2012-08-01 19:37:31
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Sylph.Traxus said: »
Hades.Stefanos said: »
Bismarck.Helel said: »
BST was never the best job to farm dynamis at any point in time, even before the TH nerf, so, basically, who cares.

Care to explain why?

TH1+1 blu/dnc was always better.

Yes, because TH sashes from LTP are so easily accessible.

BST hands down is the easiest job to go in, kill TEs, handle links and farm a decent amount of currency without relying on friends, a dualbox or large amounts of hoops.

Yea also 90% of the BSTs in dyna look to me like they wouldnt find TEs without widescan anyway. Also BLU kills TEs and handles links way better. Best amount u can get solo is going on a decently geared THF/DNC tho.With mandau i average 230-240 and before i got relic i used to get 200+ with lux pugio mainhand. Sry but BSTs outdated O.o'
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By Siren.Stunx 2012-08-01 19:39:39
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Sylph.Kiaru said: »
GOOD


Asura.Xredx said: »
meh my bst still will out farm any other job so balance is struck.


indeed a good bst will outfarm all other jobs with the current pet TH.
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By Phoenix.Baelorn 2012-08-01 19:44:25
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
That still doesn't refute his point, its not the best job to do dynamis on. It might be one of the easiest but its not the best.

Only if you're excluding ease of gearing/playing as a factor in what is best.
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By Sylph.Traxus 2012-08-01 19:44:55
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Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Yes, because TH sashes from LTP are so easily accessible.

As a blu that can go solo cleave for one, yeah, they are. But even before I bothered to farm a sash, my blu with just TH1 averaged slightly more currency than my th3 bst. Both jobs had pretty close to ideal gear outside of relic/mythic.

Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
BST hands down is the easiest job to go in, kill TEs, handle links and farm a decent amount of currency without relying on friends, a dualbox or large amounts of hoops.

Blu one shots TEs, and can sleep all links without worrying about procced mobs going yellow. It's a better dynamis farmer in every possible way if you're playing it right, with the exception of fighting orc NMs that can charm.
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By Cerberus.Senkyuutai 2012-08-01 19:50:06
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Cerberus.Valmur said: »
Glad I'm done with dyna before the shitstorm even started.
Seeing the speed at which you completed your relic, I would hope so.
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By Kimble2013 2012-08-01 19:51:54
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I don't get how they can say they never said they would, when there is proof on their own forums that they did lol.
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By Aikawa 2012-08-01 19:53:02
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Sylph.Traxus said: »
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
Yes, because TH sashes from LTP are so easily accessible.

As a blu that can go solo cleave for one, yeah, they are. But even before I bothered to farm a sash, my blu with just TH1 averaged slightly more currency than my th3 bst. Both jobs had pretty close to ideal gear outside of relic/mythic.

Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »
BST hands down is the easiest job to go in, kill TEs, handle links and farm a decent amount of currency without relying on friends, a dualbox or large amounts of hoops.

Blu one shots TEs, and can sleep all links without worrying about procced mobs going yellow. It's a better dynamis farmer in every possible way if you're playing it right, with the exception of fighting orc NMs that can charm.

and dont forget BLU got widescan so they dont waste time looking around for the last TE, /sarcams...
Dont know.. solo bst 220-250 currency... even that I got blu geared... and Im sure I can kill mobs faster, and more mobs, more currency, not interested to do it as blu.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2012-08-01 19:58:14
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This thread is total lulz, its funny how BST threads always degrade into BLU > BST for dyna (which is completely true).
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2012-08-01 19:59:20
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Finding TEs without widescan is still trivial.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-01 20:01:18
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I've still seen no credibility to the assertion that BLU > BST when it comes to farming. I never see currency numbers, only empty touting.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-01 20:01:29
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
Finding TEs without widescan is still trivial.

This, and even if it wasn't, my BLU would still pull more currency than a BST wasting up to 20 minutes of farm time.

Ease of access doesn't make BST better, it makes it more idiot friendly and still worse than the superior option.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-08-01 20:03:11
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All widescan means is in qufim I can call my pet, look at widescan and find the 20, yeah that's useful but I could find the 20 without widescan no problem, in any zone.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-08-01 20:03:59
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
I've still seen no credibility to the assertion that BLU > BST when it comes to farming. I never see currency numbers, only empty touting.
I'll have to get off my arse and farm a taru sash and see how my currency numbers compare...if I get off my arse.
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By Cerberus.Valmur 2012-08-01 20:04:37
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Cerberus.Tidis said: »
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I've still seen no credibility to the assertion that BLU > BST when it comes to farming. I never see currency numbers, only empty touting.
I'll have to get off my arse and farm a taru sash and see how my currency numbers compare...if I get off my arse.

Yup same.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-01 20:04:51
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200 is a low average, can go as high as 230~250 depending on how many times I *** up that particular run, 250 being a rare occurrence based on lucky multi drops. With a DNC or a THF duoing with me we can grab over double that.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-01 20:07:33
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My BST averages 250, low 200 and high 280. BLU is superior?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-01 20:09:26
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Going to have to ask for citation on that, because it sounds less than slightly unlikely and more like making up numbers to try to inflate your position. Inferior kill speed and inferior TH are stacked against you, all you really have as a BST is that your pet can hold more than one mob at a time more easily than having to keep things slept, which doesn't account for a 50~80 currency disparity.
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By Cerberus.Tidis 2012-08-01 20:11:26
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Going to have to ask for citation on that, because it sounds less than slightly unlikely and more like making up numbers to try to inflate your position.
I would have to side with you here, I guess my bst could be geared slightly better, I don't use food but I average ~170, I just can't see better gear and use of food making up 80 more coins on average.
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By Meowza 2012-08-01 20:13:17
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nvm
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-01 20:13:31
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And what, pray tell, do you ask me to cite? You can take it or leave it because it's only a single person's numbers, but I'm not the one trying to prove a point here, you are. I'm perfectly fine with BLU doing well, or superior to BST, but this pandering and ego-touting gets annoying.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-08-01 20:14:30
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Is it pandering and ego touting when you have, at minimum, half a dozen people saying that it's already superior, and that the argument of "BST WUZ DA BEST AND STILL EEZ" is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE?

I think not.
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By Leviathan.Vaudianx 2012-08-01 20:14:53
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The job you do dynamis the best with is the best job.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-01 20:15:46
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Is it pandering and ego touting when you have, at minimum, half a dozen people saying that it's already superior, and that the argument of "BST WUZ DA BEST AND STILL EEZ" is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE?

I think not.
Bandwagon fallacy.
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