[Dev] BST: TH+ Equipment Will Not Come

Well yeah you always have the few that are either casual or have no clue what's going on. If I had a second BST account, full perle and absolutely no leveled offensive skills I could still solo a majority of Dyna's with Gerard.

Its too bad SE locked the Bst TH thread, I guess they got an ear full quick.

I've seen nothing but mutual respect, and most of the time if a BST has more than 2 mobs, it's because they linked. If they're pulling 5 mobs and giving you tongue for taking one, **** them. White mobs are free game.

On mutual respect, this only exists where all involved parties are more-or-less content. Respect means acknowledgment of intent, and as a result, active approval of said intent. The approval implies a level of contentness is reached, and all parties mutually respect each other.

The intent in a free-for-all situation, like 6 soloists at Krakens in Qufim, is to **** someone else over, in which case, no involved party should show any sign of respect.

If someone is taking your mobs when there are two people at a camp, they're ****s. Likewise, if someone is pulling 5 mobs solo, they're ****s. Steal their **** until they leave or quit.

If they do give BST some sort of pet related upgrade, lets hope it lets Falcor eat me for a potent stoneskin.

No they said they MIGHT add some way to raise it for pets in the future...MIGHT, when used as a verb, means possibility, not certainty.

Either way, and I hope I'm not jinxing myself, but you're not getting anything more than TH1

No where in their post did they use the word might. Not sure where you got that from, but go ahead and try to find that word in their original post if you wish.

※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger.

I don't see it.

I'm not sure if those glasses are stuck too tightly around your cranium, but the above direct quotation has no mention of the word "might" either literally, or as a verb.

It does, however, state "These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I, but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +” the effect will become stronger."

Oh, reading comprehension master, am I correct in thinking this new enhancement is therefore an issue to be resolved in future updates? I am.

I average 280 coins in Dynamis. I do not need higher treasure hunter.

This is the equivilent of being up to lot Ridill and having the leaders ingame girlfriend get it first. If you don't understand their folly, you probably shouldn't post an opinion.

No where in their post did they use the word will. Not sure where you got that from, but go ahead and try to find that word in their original post if you wish.

I correct myself, they did use the word "will", except it was not in connotation towards TH equipment, but rather the pets base level of TH.

First you said "No they said they MIGHT", then you try to flip it around on others countering your argument.

We've been through this...I lied, sue me...doesnt change the fact they still never said "we will add pet:TH equipment".


the might was implied, because ideas can change on a daily basis at any time. Proof? Neo-Salvage pathos unlocks. It took what...two days to rescind their "it will unlock randomly to anyone at any time" to add extra things, the possibility of a starting chest and lamps to reduce some of the random factor.

I'm not arguing that fact, just that you went as far as saying they might when that never was the case.

While I find the whole idea of pet TH gear silly, to read that statement as noncommital flimflam is reaching. Expecting BSTs to be impressed by that is kind of insulting, really.

※These pets will have a base of Treasure Hunter I,
Fact

but by using equipment that has “Pet: Treasure Hunter +”
Statement

the effect will become stronger.
Fact, if statement becomes true

The problem lies within the statement that Camate made. It doesn't say they are going to, but he (or the devs) decided to throw in some BS into the post to ease the frustration of BSTs. They let everyone believe that this equipment was coming without correcting us for 6 months.

Once again, I lied, I misread. I tried to read like the whiny bst's are reading: add in imaginary words into a sentence to bend it to what I want to read then get upset over it because what I want to read isnt happening.

If ppl want TH2 back.. just lvl dnc.. and go dnc/thf -_-...

But you bumped this after a week of no posts lol

I've been on vacation the past 2 weeks, Cuba and Toronto.

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/topic/32288/dev-bst-th-equipment-will-not-come/9/#1998044

How about this guys 3 week bump? >.> I replied to something that was posted while I wasn't even in the country, sorry if its a week late?

This whole topic (not the forum topic, but BST TH) has been an ongoing discussion since January/February. It's a stupid topic and people shouldn't be upset over the change anymore.

Reposting this cause it got lost in one of my edits:

Ideas can change on a daily basis at any time. Proof? Neo-Salvage pathos unlocks.

Aug 13: Changes to the Pathos of Alzadaal
After considering that these imbued items clutter inventory, and the time spent lotting and distributing them made it difficult to focus on strategy, we will be changing the system so that instead of using items to unlock limitations, they will randomly be removed when defeating monsters.
tldr: random unlock to random players, our lovely random number generator will cause your mages to not have magic, and your melee to lack weapons and abilities

Aug 22: After warping to the next floor, a lamp will be placed for voluntary Pathos unlocking
We will be making it possible so that each player can check the lamp and select a status to be unlocked that was unlocked in the floors prior. (In order to use the lamp, certain conditions must be fulfilled on the previous floor; however, we are planning to make the conditions easy to accomplish.)
tldr: we realized how stupid our random number generator is and want to make it so you cant get screwed over completely by it.

9 days to rescind their idea and change it add a completely new spectrum to it.


I'm repeating myself again with this, SE fixed pet TH, analyzed the results of their adjustment, see that BST's dont need anything further than TH1, and decided to leave it as is.

I believe Camate said something like "we never mentioned Pet:TH equipment idiots", even I'll admit they were the ones who introduced the idea in the first place. What if he had said something like this: "I'm sorry you all understood what I said to be as fact of equipment inclusion, but the fact is that we made a change to pet TH and upon further review decided that it is good as is", would you all still be upset over "false promises"?

He could have worded that better, or atleast threw in what I said about analyzing results of the change...even if its a lie lol

Okipuit went into it a bit before Camate posted.

It's not a stupid topic, its just been discussed at great length and we're all tired of hearing about it. Honestly, I think the devs need to just make an option, no matter how many times we have to kill such-and-such NM over and over again, to have a higher tier of TH on BST. It would satisfy the dedicated BST who solo anyway, so THF was never a consideration for a party member in the first place.

We all know drop rates can be horrendous for anyone anyway. I think, personally, that an MMO in it's age such as FFXI should be trying to HELP all characters rather than HINDER them. It should keep balance at all times, but seriously, this is not a game breaking issue, either way. TH or not. I know it's a confusing post, but the point is, how much longer is FFXI going to last? Even with several years, it's reaching a point where the devs might want to kick it up a notch. What with XIV being a gip and all.

dat necro

...as I necro bump after 154 days... wow. Sorry.