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 Asura.Gordel
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By Asura.Gordel 2019-11-06 01:13:54
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Curious if anyone could show me their helix sets? I am trying to decide between a few pieces of gear currently. Mainly the zuuxowu grip and dosis tathlum.

Should I be aiming for magic damage+?
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By Chimerawizard 2019-11-06 13:01:28
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Immanence helix midcast:
When you don't mind dealing some damage as well.
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11s~ recast with haste.

When you want to deal as little damage as possible but still recast quickly.
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*merlinic FC+7% aug
13s~ recast with haste.

Helix for damage: (Helix II)
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Chimerawizard said: »
Chimerawizard said: »
I'll come up with some examples if another person doesn't do it before me.
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not sure if merlinic hood + amalric body is better.
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sacro cord & mujin band swap for noctohelix.

Also not sure if freke ring beats mujin band for either helix; it probably does though for kaustra thanks to the low base damage (no mDMG boosting).
edit: merlinic feet are better than jhakri with a very nice augment.
Asura.Gordel said: »
Curious if anyone could show me their helix sets? I am trying to decide between a few pieces of gear currently. Mainly the zuuxowu grip and dosis tathlum.

Should I be aiming for magic damage+?
For the first 50 ΔINT, it's 2dmg=1INT, the next 50 is 1 for 1, so enki is king until you're over 100 ΔINT, at which point you could wear Zuuxowu grip for dmg or Khonsu for accuracy.
for ammo, outside of the first 50 ΔINT, dosis probably wins in damage, but I like accracy too much to pass up pemphredo: especially since the difference is probably 50dmg or less.
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By Asura.Toralin 2019-11-06 13:53:19
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This is what I got with
Head 11MB
Body 10M
Legs 9MB
Neck 10
40 total
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I couldn't get anything with Akademos to beat it
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By Asura.Elizabet 2019-11-06 16:21:38
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Asura.Toralin said: »
I couldn't get anything with Akademos to beat it

But what's the gap between this and your best akademos setup? There is a whole lot of "is it worth the inv space / money" here I feel could be left to each person to decide.

It's one thing to say it's better, but the real question is by how much.
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By Asura.Toralin 2019-11-06 16:28:55
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Asura.Elizabet said: »
Asura.Toralin said: »
I couldn't get anything with Akademos to beat it

But what's the gap between this and your best akademos setup? There is a whole lot of "is it worth the inv space / money" here I feel could be left to each person to decide.

It's one thing to say it's better, but the real question is by how much.
Yes I ended up ditching it for the most part so I could get Merlinic Jubbah/legs and Raetic Staff +1 out of my inventory, it beats it by about 1-3%, but when your posting BiS gearsets, I feel like its not really fair to post it based on your own personal inventory space issues.

This is what I currently use

38MBB
ItemSet 341515
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By Asura.Gordel 2019-11-06 23:04:36
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So I should not be aiming for magic damage then? just magic attack bonus?
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By Chimerawizard 2019-11-07 00:13:02
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T1 helix: recast & haste if you use them for your skillchains.
for dmg: affinity > magic burst > magic damage > mab > int

T2 helix: 9999dmg > duration > reduce inventory
affinity > magic burst > mab~mdmg~int
base damage is probably going to be 450~500. MAB in the above set is (probably) just over 500, so mab & mdmg will be close to 1 for 1. and dINT from 51~100 =1mdmg so might as well think of that as mdmg. (assumed 25mab on the head in addition to the MBB+11)
If his merlinic hood only had 7MB, mallquis trews +2 very well could beat amalric in that slot; but that's an extra inventory space that is not going to be used for anything aside from helix. (honestly it might win by a tiny bit even with MB+11 hat)
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-11-08 05:25:46
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So appearently the adjustments are "just" Sublimation restoring more MP and Klimaform lasting longer.

I meaaaan, not that I'm gonna complain, but still...
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By DirectX 2019-11-08 05:59:30
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What would you want instead?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2019-11-08 06:36:21
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DirectX said: »
What would you want instead?

If they had reworked tier 2 merits some, taking the /jas off, and kinda giving us a mix of blm, and rdm merits, like:

Elemental Magic Accuracy = +3 /merit
Elemental Magic Attack Bonus = +3% /merit
Helix Duration = +1 tock /merit
Enhancing Magic Duration = +10 sec /merit
Klimaform Duration = +12 sec /merit
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By DirectX 2019-11-08 06:54:49
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But would that really make SCH used for more things in group content?
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By Nariont 2019-11-08 07:45:04
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Would take a return to mb strats to do that, or an overhaul in its ability as a healer, still bit of a meh update for sch, looking better than bst though.
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By FaeQueenCory 2019-11-08 08:41:47
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
If they had reworked tier 2 merits some, taking the /jas off,
They already said that G2 merits are for JAs and JTs, the spell removal wasn't originally planned for their "year of job adjustments". (Though this sublimate+klimaform adjustment was....)
And boy did it show with those augment placements.

So unless it's something that's a tweak to a single merit JA/T like Desperate Blows or Strafe, there's not going to be a wholesale removal of merit JAs for any job.
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-11-08 08:48:16
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DirectX said: »
What would you want instead?
Well, Klimaform duration is good, I was hoping for that.
I was kinda also hoping for merited stratagems to become normal stratagems, so we could get different merit categories (enha duration, stratagems recast, max number of strats, macc, mab, I dunno stuff like that)
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By Asura.Pusheen 2019-11-08 09:43:36
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Asura.Sechs said: »
So appearently the adjustments are "just" Sublimation restoring more MP and Klimaform lasting longer.

I meaaaan, not that I'm gonna complain, but still...

Are these changes for SCH main only?
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By Asura.Geriond 2019-11-08 10:34:44
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Asura.Sechs said: »
DirectX said: »
What would you want instead?
Well, Klimaform duration is good, I was hoping for that.
I was kinda also hoping for merited stratagems to become normal stratagems, so we could get different merit categories (enha duration, stratagems recast, max number of strats, macc, mab, I dunno stuff like that)
The only merit changes SE has been doing was for merited spells, not merited JAs, so I don't expect any more merit adjustments for any jobs on this current rotation.
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By Ruaumoko 2019-11-08 12:47:53
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Well that’s genuinely disappointing.

Saves me from bothering with a video though, clouds and silver lining.
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By Bismarck.Nyaarun 2019-11-09 08:55:22
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Was hoping for adjustments to the enmity and TP lone of sch only spells.
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By Asura.Seizan 2019-11-11 05:30:16
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SCH geting an adjustment, yay!





eh ok ic
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By Asura.Sechs 2019-11-11 06:22:46
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Can still hope for an adjustment to enhancing magic spells to come in the future I guess but I wouldn't count on that at this point.

Just like I wouldn't count on them removing the merited Stratagems and putting some useful Merits in their place.
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By Gasho 2019-11-14 13:41:05
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hey guys,

Just want to ask if there is an updated guide,

omen cards event is on so im trying to figure which pieces i need the most from AF for now
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By Odin.Khimeria 2019-11-14 20:23:51
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Body is excellent for Magic Bursts if you need the accuracy. Feet for grimoir fast cast
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By Chimerawizard 2019-11-14 21:07:09
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Asura.Kusaregedo said: »
what's the consensus for order of upgrading af+3? i was looking at head and hands but might be overlooking something, still new to the job.
Asura.Toralin said: »
Relic or artifact?

Af - feet break the fc cap
Relic - body for enhancing
Chimerawizard said: »
Feet are great for above mentioned
Hands are BiS FC.
Legs are great for cures and cursna. also enhancing skill if that becomes relevant after the update.
Head is ... sublimation idle
Body is ...
All pieces are amazing for magic accuracy.

If you're using the relic head to break the FC cap, remember Grimoire: Spellcasting time cap's at 15%, so you're getting almost nothing from wearing both. (base 10%+gear 15% for a total of 25% reduction)
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These are just my personal views on af/relic pieces:

The AF set itself will provide you with top notch macc set.
Head- Sublimation set, as well as solid fc piece however better options such as merlinic with augment or amalric
Body- Idle set with high meva and refresh +3/mb piece
*Ambu +2 gives 1 extra tic refresh at cost of meva if you prefer that
Hands- mentioned above
Legs- Cure piece IF you don't use kaykaus +1
Feet- mentioned above

Relic Set has some nice uses also.
Head- MB set
Body- Enhancing duration/sublimation set
Hands- paired with 4/5 af +2/3 and regal earring make for great enfeebling set with tons of macc
Leviathan.Kingkitt said: »
Relic Hands are top in slot for healing
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