Great Sword Selection Question
Great Sword Selection Question
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Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
I agree with you, without aftermath Ragnarok would beat Caladbolg but in a situation where you would have it up the whole fight (most zergs, VW, etc) I have a very hard time seeing Calad being beaten by anything.
30%-50% ODD (AM active)
Vs
16% OD2.5 and 15% increase in crit. (always up+can stack) + 40acc
Pretty simple to see why Ragnarok is superior especially as the mobs Def and lvl go up. Also as stated WAR+Rag crushes DRK+anything in a zerg (not even in the same ballpark)
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
I agree with you, without aftermath Ragnarok would beat Caladbolg but in a situation where you would have it up the whole fight (most zergs, VW, etc) I have a very hard time seeing Calad being beaten by anything.
30%-50% ODD (AM active)
Vs
16% OD2.5 and 15% increase in crit. (always up+can stack) + 40acc
Pretty simple to see why Ragnarok is superior especially as the mobs Def and lvl go up. Also as stated WAR+Rag crushes DRK+anything in a zerg (not even in the same ballpark)
Has anyone ever tried war/drk in MS zerg for fun and epeen?
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Fenrir.Ghostknight said: »
I think people severely underestimate just how good Caladbolg 99 is, silly people.
Sounds to me like you are trying to justify your mistake.
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3 different drk threads...must be a slow day >.>
speaking of slow day: did you ever figure out who your secret admirer was on gw (@josiah)
speaking of all this got my rag today worth the time money and debt :0
How is the Hoarfrost Blade better than the STR Path or even the DEX path Tenebreuse? o.O
New to greatswords... so if there is something I'm missing here... lemme know please.
I would think that the DEX path Tenebreuse, with its ease of obtainability... or the STR path if you have the gil to toss at fire geodes would be a WAY better starter to push for than Hoarfrost from Iggy...
New to greatswords... so if there is something I'm missing here... lemme know please.
I would think that the DEX path Tenebreuse, with its ease of obtainability... or the STR path if you have the gil to toss at fire geodes would be a WAY better starter to push for than Hoarfrost from Iggy...
The Magian "stat path" swords have funny delay's to work around for certain builds iirc.
444 delay is basically bad, yeah. You can hit the same x-hit with lower delay weapons (hi2u Rag/Caladbolg), and you can hit a lower x-hit build with 480 delay weapons (Borealis/Hoarfrost/Fulgurante). Anything in the middle is currently an uncomfortable medium.
Hoarfrost vs Tenebreuse would probably be close, but you could put comparable time/gil in and get an OAT instead which kinda makes the argument moot.
Hoarfrost vs Tenebreuse would probably be close, but you could put comparable time/gil in and get an OAT instead which kinda makes the argument moot.
Fenrir.Leoheart said: »
The Magian "stat path" swords have funny delay's to work around for certain builds iirc.
Too high to be low delay too low to be high delay. It doesn't fit well into established x-hits and tp overflow devalues the weapon. If you're not well versed with x-hits and how stp works, there's a calculator you can download. Too lazy to get the link from my phone, msybe someone can post it or i will when i get home.
Jassik said: »
Too high to be low delay too low to be high delay. It doesn't fit well into established x-hits and tp overflow devalues the weapon. If you're not well versed with x-hits and how stp works, there's a calculator you can download. Too lazy to get the link from my phone, msybe someone can post it or i will when i get home.
Odin.Drgg said: »
^^
So, just to bump a drk thread!
What's the optimal torcleaver sets these days?
Been wanting to make some sets for my poor Caladbolg that's been completely neglected for awhile, and it's a fun weapon to use :p
I were thinking about using this.
Would Phorcys Dirs be better?
That's assuming 7hit \sam is the way to go, which as far as I've seen lately it probably is.
Edit: Moonshade whenever I unlazy**
Edit again: Forgot to mention shadow mantle on darksday*
What's the optimal torcleaver sets these days?
Been wanting to make some sets for my poor Caladbolg that's been completely neglected for awhile, and it's a fun weapon to use :p
I were thinking about using this.
Would Phorcys Dirs be better?
That's assuming 7hit \sam is the way to go, which as far as I've seen lately it probably is.
Edit: Moonshade whenever I unlazy**
Edit again: Forgot to mention shadow mantle on darksday*
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
So, just to bump a drk thread!
What's the optimal torcleaver sets these days?
Been wanting to make some sets for my poor Caladbolg that's been completely neglected for awhile, and it's a fun weapon to use :p
I were thinking about using this.
Would Phorcys Dirs be better?
That's assuming 7hit \sam is the way to go, which as far as I've seen lately it probably is.
Edit: Moonshade whenever I unlazy**
Edit again: Forgot to mention shadow mantle on darksday*
What's the optimal torcleaver sets these days?
Been wanting to make some sets for my poor Caladbolg that's been completely neglected for awhile, and it's a fun weapon to use :p
I were thinking about using this.
Would Phorcys Dirs be better?
That's assuming 7hit \sam is the way to go, which as far as I've seen lately it probably is.
Edit: Moonshade whenever I unlazy**
Edit again: Forgot to mention shadow mantle on darksday*
Windbuffet? If LR was down I would keep some +attack in there but otherwise I think that's just about what you would use for torcleaver.
I don't think windbuffet is better since it's a 1hit ws(Ukko and shoha is 2, so that's different), but if that's wrong I'll clearly use that.
I might just end up using Anguinus fulltime to save inventory, and Apathy gorget might be better than Mala? But even if it is I'll still use Mala to save an inv spot(maybe even bomb cover over seashell).
I might just end up using Anguinus fulltime to save inventory, and Apathy gorget might be better than Mala? But even if it is I'll still use Mala to save an inv spot(maybe even bomb cover over seashell).
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
I don't think windbuffet is better since it's a 1hit ws(Ukko and shoha is 2, so that's different), but if that's wrong I'll clearly use that. I might just end up using Anguinus fulltime to save inventory, and Apathy gorget might be better than Mala? But even if it is I'll still use Mala to save an inv spot(maybe even bomb cover over seashell).
Mala does have vit but i just meant "since youre not using gorget maybe this too?". Maybe belt for WSC sets? /shrug. I haven't thought about torcleaver sets since getting phorcys and storing ares body.
Not like it's a very important set anyways, but handy to do as much as possible when triggering aftermath if nothing else lol
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Just do OAT, bang for buck is best.
Phoenix.Urteil said: »
Just do OAT, bang for buck is best.
I have that aswell, just wanna make some sets for Calad for fun :3
Well Caladbolg is not hard to make, there is not much harm in it, it is *your* money.
I think at 99 Caladbolg could be good but the only problem I see with weapon is that it requires near perfect situations to be able to be "better", and the less perfect the situation comes the more it suffers.
But we never know how the game will change, how can it possibly hurt to have every weapon ready?
I think at 99 Caladbolg could be good but the only problem I see with weapon is that it requires near perfect situations to be able to be "better", and the less perfect the situation comes the more it suffers.
But we never know how the game will change, how can it possibly hurt to have every weapon ready?
In the end, as a (really) long term goal I want every DRK weapon at 99, so yeah:P
It basicly uses the exact same sets Ragnarok would use anyways!
It basicly uses the exact same sets Ragnarok would use anyways!
Phoenix.Urteil said: »
Well Caladbolg is not hard to make, there is not much harm in it, it is *your* money.
I think at 99 Caladbolg could be good but the only problem I see with weapon is that it requires near perfect situations to be able to be "better", and the less perfect the situation comes the more it suffers.
But we never know how the game will change, how can it possibly hurt to have every weapon ready?
I think at 99 Caladbolg could be good but the only problem I see with weapon is that it requires near perfect situations to be able to be "better", and the less perfect the situation comes the more it suffers.
But we never know how the game will change, how can it possibly hurt to have every weapon ready?
Plus Mannequins look dead sexy with Cala on their backs.
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Let's say accuracy really is'nt an issue (this would be for both calad and ragna) would there be anything better than this (as \sam, no regain)?
That's assuming Resolution as weaponskill of choice, torcleaver\scourge would need hagneia stone to 7hit*
That's assuming Resolution as weaponskill of choice, torcleaver\scourge would need hagneia stone to 7hit*
Ragnarok.Ashman said: »
Cerberus.Kvazz said: »
I don't think windbuffet is better since it's a 1hit ws(Ukko and shoha is 2, so that's different), but if that's wrong I'll clearly use that. I might just end up using Anguinus fulltime to save inventory, and Apathy gorget might be better than Mala? But even if it is I'll still use Mala to save an inv spot(maybe even bomb cover over seashell).
Mala does have vit but i just meant "since youre not using gorget maybe this too?". Maybe belt for WSC sets? /shrug. I haven't thought about torcleaver sets since getting phorcys and storing ares body.
Since the fTP scales on torcleaver, can we say that using an ele belt is not that useful?
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