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By Hades.Dade 2016-12-13 19:37:59
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
Is there a reason to fully finish the TP Bonus 1000 guns path till the end other than OCD?

If you are 4 stepping slug>savage>leaden>wildfire you get a slight boost to your slug dmg! I did it for OCD.

So looking at AF+3 is there anything worthwhile besides body for 10% WSD I missed?
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-12-13 19:42:08
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Head and feet are phenomenal for landing debuff Quick Draws. Legs have some great snapshot. Hands mark the return of our glorious and not at all useless parrying skill gloves.
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By Lyramion 2016-12-13 19:51:55
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There is still 1 step after getting +3 that is unknown yet and presumed to be some kind of static augment.
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By minikomby 2016-12-16 10:42:37
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Hello Corsair People

I have a question, please help me out.

thinkng about make a cor cape for regular range attack, i assume

Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

and is worth to make a snapshot +10 augmnet cape or nha?
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-16 11:20:23
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minikomby said: »
Hello Corsair People

I have a question, please help me out.

thinkng about make a cor cape for regular range attack, i assume

Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

and is worth to make a snapshot +10 augmnet cape or nha?
I would recommend +30 RACC that might be what you meant already.

If you don't have capped snapshot set its a great cape to make. Though probably one of the last capes I would make for cor.
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By Enucleation 2016-12-19 04:42:39
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Yah it comes +30 racc/ratt already which is what I think he eluded to, you can always invest in a navarch's mantle for pre-shot which is a quick/easy pick-up if you have already cashed in on your cape for the month.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2016-12-19 07:27:06
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minikomby said: »
Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

Something to think about: +10 AGI would give you ~7-8 racc but also boost your crit rate depending on dAGI.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-19 07:31:57
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Shiva.Arislan said: »
minikomby said: »
Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

Something to think about: +10 AGI would give you ~7-8 racc but also boost your crit rate depending on dAGI.
Not a bad idea. I actually did this on my two BLU melee capes Dex of-course though.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-12-19 07:36:11
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Shiva.Arislan said: »
minikomby said: »
Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

Something to think about: +10 AGI would give you ~7-8 racc but also boost your crit rate depending on dAGI.
Not a bad idea. I actually did this on my two BLU melee capes Dex of-course though.

Thought DEX was Crit hit rate + / Crit hit DMG+ / ACC+ and AGI was Parrying / Guard / Shield / Evasion Rng.ACC+ Rng.ATK+

well, Looks like I am mistaken then, ty for the info :D
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-19 07:40:26
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Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Asura.Chiaia said: »
Shiva.Arislan said: »
minikomby said: »
Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

Something to think about: +10 AGI would give you ~7-8 racc but also boost your crit rate depending on dAGI.
Not a bad idea. I actually did this on my two BLU melee capes Dex of-course though.

Thought DEX was Crit hit rate + / Crit hit DMG+ / ACC+ and AGI was Parrying / Guard / Shield / Evasion Rng.ACC+ Rng.ATK+

well, Looks like I am mistaken then, ty for the info :D

DEX is ACC AND Crit for Melee. Not Crit DMG.
AGI = Evasion for all jobs.

AGI = R.Acc and Ranged Crit Rate. Not Ranged Crit DMG.

Agi has nothing to do with Shield, Counter or Parry. That is old bad info that was proven to be a wrong.
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By Bismarck.Kuroganashi 2016-12-19 07:43:57
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Bismarck.Kuroganashi said: »
Asura.Chiaia said: »
Shiva.Arislan said: »
minikomby said: »
Agi +20
range acc/attack +30
and stp+10 are the best right?

Something to think about: +10 AGI would give you ~7-8 racc but also boost your crit rate depending on dAGI.
Not a bad idea. I actually did this on my two BLU melee capes Dex of-course though.

Thought DEX was Crit hit rate + / Crit hit DMG+ / ACC+ and AGI was Parrying / Guard / Shield / Evasion Rng.ACC+ Rng.ATK+

well, Looks like I am mistaken then, ty for the info :D

DEX is ACC AND Crit for Melee. Not Crit DMG.
AGI = Evasion for all jobs.

AGI = R.Acc and Ranged Crit Rate. Not Ranged Crit DMG.

Agi has nothing to do with Shield, Counter or Parry. That is old bad info that was proven to be a wrong.


ahhh that makes sense now :D

ty ^^/
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By Asura.Ajirha 2016-12-19 08:10:34
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one ambuscade cape with only snapshot+10 is a nice thing. bringing your snapshot up to 1 or 2 sec for shooting is nice especialyl considering cor only use gun and gun are slow.

dye use: stat because you want the cape for content that matters and that means you wont be capped and can always use more stat for their multiple effect as the other have stated. you would only loose 3 racc to get more crit rate which is a really fair trade. Also dye only give you +10 racc OR ratt, not both of them.

now, for the long run, enjoy cor capes from ambuscade :
must have :
agi +30 racc/ratt +20 stp +10 for shooting
agi +30 macc/mdmg +20 wsd +10 for magical ws
dex +30 acc/att +20 DW +10 for melee

optionnal:
snapshot +10 for precast (very nice to have)
agi +30 racc/ratt +20 wsd +10 for physical ws
agi +30 macc/mdgm +20 mab +10 for QD
str +30 acc/att +20 wsd or DA +10 for savage (very nice to have)
mnd +30 acc/att +20 DA +10 for requiescat
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-19 08:30:19
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Since 95% of content your doing on COR these days is via Melee I would say Savage Blade back > Shooting Back(agi +30 racc/ratt +20 stp +10). Totally wasn't thinking about Omen kinda changes priorities for some.

I guess it depends on your play style.

Also I would say a real melee back has STP or DA(depends on your other gear) not DW on it. Yes a DW cape is nice for those not caped haste times but you should be making a STP/DA one before DW.

There is a certain gear setup were you do, do DW though but it way rarer and once you start needing to get super high acc your defiantly not using that setup that requires a DW back which is most of the endgame content atm.

Oh yea or your subbing lol dnc in a real event that your there for Melee. :/
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-19 08:45:10
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I agree with Chiaia, DA or stp for melee on Camulus. Capping delay is not so hard, I wouldn't recommend it on the cape.
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By Shiva.Arislan 2016-12-19 08:54:13
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Also I would say a real melee back has STP or DA(depends on your other gear) not DW on it. Yes a DW cape is nice for those not caped haste times but you should be making a STP/DA one before DW.

I'd recommend having both the +STP and +DW capes made... as a COR it is quite common to be under haste-cap because of neglect and/or imperfect party composition.

And good luck getting any haste at all if you're low-manning and you aren't the one calling trusts. >.<'
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By Shiva.Arislan 2016-12-19 08:58:43
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I think we can all agree that COR requires too many damned Ambu capes.
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By Bahamut.Tychefm 2016-12-19 09:05:16
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Since 95% of content your doing on COR these days is via Melee

Well the most important content currently is Omen and I did lots pew pew there simply because being at max range makes things so much easier with the strong/gimicky AoEs.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-19 09:06:43
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Bahamut.Tychefm said: »
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Since 95% of content your doing on COR these days is via Melee

Well the most important content currently is Omen and I did lots pew pew there simply because being at max range makes things so much easier with the strong/gimicky AoEs.
You bring up a good point. Omen is so new I wasn't even thinking about it!
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By Asura.Toralin 2016-12-19 16:08:38
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quick draw accuracy sets, am I concentrating on M.acc and AGI? the set on the first page looks pretty R.ACC heavy?
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By Shiva.Arislan 2016-12-19 16:15:59
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Asura.Toralin said: »
quick draw accuracy sets, am I concentrating on M.acc and AGI? the set on the first page looks pretty R.ACC heavy?

I wouldn't follow that set.

MAcc, AGI and Marksmanship skill are what you want to max out.

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By Shiva.Eightball 2016-12-19 17:05:47
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so awhile back Sehachans was telling me that Racc effects QD acc and I thought, O.o what are you crazy? but supposedly someone did testing or somthing idk, if someone knows what I'm talking about can link it here plz. that is likly why Sehachans set on front page contained a lot of Racc.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-19 17:11:08
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It was based on many testimonials. But look guys, things are not set in stone, if anyone has the patience it can be tested to put a definitive answer on it.

We're all here for the same goal of improving gameplay for our fellow pirates, no one is here to just pontificate.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2016-12-19 17:11:25
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The new AF+3 head and feet are the absolute best options for QD accuracy. Other options are decent, but AF+3 are phenomenally strong with native racc, macc, high AGI, and the boost to QD damage/acc.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-19 20:20:00
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It was based on many testimonials. But look guys, things are not set in stone, if anyone has the patience it can be tested to put a definitive answer on it.

We're all here for the same goal of improving gameplay for our fellow pirates, no one is here to just pontificate.
Alright I'm willing to test this for us. My idea is Apex Crabs.
One set about 1400 Racc
vs
800 R.Acc, 120 M.Acc
I'll try to hone in agi to be the same but it might be 1-5 off.

That is a 600 R.Acc and 120 M.Acc difference between the 2 sets.
5:1 Ratio seems rather fair imo? Thoughts on this?

I'm pretty sure based on a smaller test I did that Racc does nothing for it but willing to do a bigger test if we think this is a solid test. I could get a few hundred samples setting up a lua to use QD when its ready and tell it to exclude bad days for testing. It will take me a few nights to do this because once the Apex mob dies from August beating on it and my QD DMG it'll be done for the night.

Edit 11:55 PM EST:
BTW if I do like 30 shots of 600+ R.Acc and all are almost all super resist and then 30 shots of +120 Macc are all not or barely resisted I won't do hundreds of samples. I think it'll be pretty clear even with such low samples that its doing nothing for us.
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By Shiva.Eightball 2016-12-19 21:40:20
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Asura.Chiaia said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
It was based on many testimonials. But look guys, things are not set in stone, if anyone has the patience it can be tested to put a definitive answer on it.

We're all here for the same goal of improving gameplay for our fellow pirates, no one is here to just pontificate.
Alright I'm willing to test this for us. My idea is Apex Crabs.
One set about 1400 Racc
vs
800 R.Acc, 120 M.Acc
I'll try to hone in agi to be the same but it might be 1-5 off.

That is a 600 R.Acc and 120 M.Acc difference between the 2 sets.
5:1 Ratio seems rather fair imo? Thoughts on this?

I'm pretty sure based on a smaller test I did that Racc does nothing for it but willing to do a bigger test if we think this is a solid test. I could get a few hundred samples setting up a lua to use QD when its ready and tell it to exclude bad days for testing. It will take me a few nights to do this because once the Apex mob dies from August beating on it and my QD DMG it'll be done for the night.

cool thx ^^
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By Enucleation 2016-12-20 03:30:39
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Shiva.Arislan said: »
I think we can all agree that COR requires too many damned Ambu capes.

Amen to that....
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2016-12-20 04:51:13
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Thanks Chiaia.
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By Asura.Chiaia 2016-12-20 10:03:16
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Ok, I decided to do a quick and dirty test to see if I was going to be doing hundreds of samples or only 30ish of each. Test below only has a 480 R.Acc spread need to wait for friend's alt tonight to give me that other 120~.

480+ R.Acc & +16 AGI Set: 314avg (28s)
120 M.Acc: 963avg (14s)

I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get the proper one done tonight because its looking very likely I will only need 30 samples of each to show this unless that last 120~ R.Acc changes something.

I'll post all the data points when I do the proper one. This was just to see what I was working with.

Edit: lol forgot to stop the lua so even more samples for r.acc set
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