The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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By Sylph.Peldin 2013-12-02 12:09:43
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I use Gear Collector to help me cut down on inventory space and it's made a pretty substantial difference in what I can and can't bring with me.

Although sometimes it's kinda annoying when you make a GC set for pure physical and grab it because that's all you thought you'd need, and then you get asked to use absolute terror with half your m.acc gear in one of your bags, lol

As for sets on the front, I'm struggling with comparing Iuitl to Manibozho.

For example: Feet slot - consider Mani's are Rank 15 and Iuitl augmented with 2% DA...
Iuitl has the same strength, 11 more dex, 17 less attack, same DA, same haste.

So Iuitl only comes out ahead when dDEX is uncapped AND you score the 2% DA augement?

I'm sorry if I'm bringing up something that's already been discussed. Before I go further, if these comparisons have been made, can you link me to the page number? I only ask because at work, I have problems trying to go through forum pages without my browser locking up on me.
 
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By Ophannus 2013-12-02 13:16:28
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Trying to cut down on inventory for BLU. I have like 3 different feet: Iuitl, Manibozho and Assimilator's. Was thinking of meleeing in Manibozho(Iuitl dont have 2% DA only 1%) but Mani has better melee stats, Iuitl for CDC and Mani for Requiescat, Assim for spells then I have Mavi for Sanguine Blade/Nukes and BA nukes. I'm at like 79/80 on equipment and would like to cut it to 77 or 76ish.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-12-02 13:38:25
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Personally I cut corners in the Earring slots (don't have physical-casting earrings).
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By Ophannus 2013-12-02 13:56:46
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We'll i could get rid of loq earring and prolix ring although they do help when rebuffing mid fight. Dunno if I'd give up my Vulcan pearls though. Might get rid of cure onry pieces like tempered cape since I don't set magic fruit unless solo and even then I prefer sanguine blade since it does a consistent 2.4-2.7k. Might get rid of blue skill gear too since that's really only for occultation which is seldom used and for magic barrier on shark.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-12-02 14:10:20
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with all the haste on casting gear now, 4% fastcast is negligible for precast and basically pointless for recast. I'd ditch prolix and loq. before i ditched physical earrings. you're losing as much as 15-20 stat points in exchange for a couple hundredths of a second reduction on casting time.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-12-02 14:11:16
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Ophannus said: »
We'll i could get rid of loq earring and prolix ring although they do help when rebuffing mid fight. Dunno if I'd give up my Vulcan pearls though. Might get rid of cure onry pieces like tempered cape since I don't set magic fruit unless solo and even then I prefer sanguine blade since it does a consistent 2.4-2.7k. Might get rid of blue skill gear too since that's really only for occultation which is seldom used and for magic barrier on shark.

Why are you using magic barrier? Makes no sense, do your WHMs not heal you at all?
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-12-02 14:15:04
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mitigating damage is always useful, especially when you are a dd with the ability to do so without large large sacrifices to dps
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-12-02 14:19:25
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It is a large sacrifice to dps. He will be continually recasting it, especially any time the WHM cures him and removes it with their solace effect.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-12-02 14:33:55
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Ophannus said: »
We'll i could get rid of loq earring and prolix ring although they do help when rebuffing mid fight. Dunno if I'd give up my Vulcan pearls though. Might get rid of cure onry pieces like tempered cape since I don't set magic fruit unless solo and even then I prefer sanguine blade since it does a consistent 2.4-2.7k. Might get rid of blue skill gear too since that's really only for occultation which is seldom used and for magic barrier on shark.

I'd get rid of the low-potency fast cast stuff first, as well as MND earrings/second MND ring/cure potency pants if you use those. Getting rid of weird blue skill items such as Mavi neck, Antican ring, and Blood Greaves also isn't a bad idea. I tend to satchel certain things that would be minimally useful/not useful for given situations, such as Thamuas body and Suppa when I'm soloing (I prefer Hagondes body for that) or the DW earring combo when I know I'll be getting marches. I'm probably going to try and make space for physical earrings again in the near future, since physical spells are becoming more useful in group content again.
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By Ophannus 2013-12-02 18:05:32
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I only cast it at 25% intervals when Mayhem is coming since thats magic damage. I like to Diffusion it too.
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By Ragnarok.Llantosub 2013-12-02 18:17:42
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With the new mag. acc. weapons do the blue magic magical spells still need a staff?
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-12-02 20:23:01
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For the enfeebles, definitely not. For nukes, it'd depend but you would either use Chatoyant or some combo involving Tamaxchi, Camaraderie Wand, and/or Predatrice, depending on macc needs and the base damage of the spell.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-12-02 20:46:14
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Staves still best for any non-low level(thus low d cap)/low wsc/otherwise low d magic damage spell; for any of the others, Camaraderie wand + Tamaxchi.
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By Ragnarok.Llantosub 2013-12-02 21:01:20
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So the unbridled learning magic spells still best used with staves?
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-12-02 21:04:39
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Those are high base damage, yes. However, the resistance rate on high level content (WKs) with a staff is going to be terrible.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-12-02 21:37:00
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Wouldn't even be worth casting those. Things like Sandspin will be remarkably more efficient over time than any other spell even with capped macc.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-12-02 21:51:31
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I wanna mess around with that but I'm missing that damn club.
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By Ophannus 2013-12-02 22:11:12
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With full MAB and Tamaxchi/Cam.Wand, Sandspins doing 843 to Level 0 Wild Hares. Not bad for 10MP. However, with the same gear, Stone I as BLU/BLM is doing 1105 for 4MP and 1sec recast compared to Sandspin 3s recast. Dark Orb with clubs does ~5.5-5.8k, Regurgitation and Retinal Glare do ~3k.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-12-02 22:20:30
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would be better to compare it to Stonega
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By Ophannus 2013-12-02 22:22:43
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Stonega I doing 1940 for 24MP lol...why are BLM spells getting such a bigger boost to D than BLU spells, is it due to the dINT thing?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-12-02 22:23:15
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BLM spells were retooled while BLU ones were not.
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By Ophannus 2013-12-02 22:37:19
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Would be nice if they retooled BLU's a bit though it's bit more difficult because our spells don't have clear cut tiers. Still waiting/hopeful they'd retool our cure spells to be based off of BLU skill rather than Healing Skill(600ish Magic Fruit doesn't cut it anymore) but that ship has sailed.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-12-02 22:38:23
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All they'd really have to do is remove D caps. Sandspin caps at 13D, so pretty much all of your base damage is coming from magic damage+. Uncapping it would allow it to reach higher numbers, but not ridiculously strong. Corrosive Ooze should be fairly decent, but I haven't checked.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-12-02 23:22:12
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Wouldn't even be worth casting those. Things like Sandspin will be remarkably more efficient over time than any other spell even with capped macc.

Assuming it can land on them, the burn from Gates of Hades is certainly worthwhile on a WK.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-12-02 23:42:45
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The drown from Foul Waters is better and Burn+Drown do not stack. It also doesn't consume a UL charge
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-12-02 23:51:29
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Drone Whirlwind is a better use of UL on the tree at least.
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By Siren.Kyte 2013-12-03 00:03:07
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-45 INT for the SMNs is kinda good.
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By Ophannus 2013-12-04 12:23:43
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Man I'm like 0/3 on Blistering Roar and 0/2 on Cacharian Verve. Does your pt need to get the kill shot or something? I've been wearing AF hands while the mob is readying it and also at moment of death. Sigh...
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-12-04 12:26:58
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Ophannus said: »
Man I'm like 0/3 on Blistering Roar and 0/2 on Cacharian Verve. Does your pt need to get the kill shot or something? I've been wearing AF hands while the mob is readying it and also at moment of death. Sigh...

I learned gates of hades watching someone solo cerberus on BST. I don't know if it was a glitch, but I always thought you had to have claim on the mob when it died. But, instances are a different animal, I think you just have to have taken action on the mob at some point and witnessed it readying the move.
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