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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-04 00:13:17
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Did the T3 Delve Scorpion today and after it raged I couldn't get Vanity Dive to land but for some reason I could get Heavy Strike to land now and then.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-04 00:55:31
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Just an update, going to take me a while to do set updates to include the new delve gear. It's a pretty monumental task as there's a ton of upgrades. I'm thinking about bumping top tier sets down to high end and remaking top tier sets completely, or just adding a new set for each category called "Delve" to leave non-delve sets there and making it easier on myself.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-04 01:10:34
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I like the Delve/non-Delve idea.
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By Phoenix.Tsuekasa 2013-05-04 07:52:47
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Just wondering, would Rune be useful as a sub for blue if tanking?
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By Gimp 2013-05-04 08:04:47
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Phoenix.Tsuekasa said: »
Just wondering, would Rune be useful as a sub for blue if tanking?

against what mobs? nm?

kneejerk response says that it varies based off of this as well as if you're doing this by yourself, lowman, how the monster can be damaged,etc.

/nin for single target or absorbable damage that can/must be blinked

/rdm for longevity and mp management issues as well as fast cast, ice spikes, phalanx


I've heard orcish counter and counterstance from /mnk is very powerful (albeit probably just a toy). I know /pld has been used back in the 75 time frame and I'm sure /dnc fits somewhere.


edit: I realized that you were asking about /run....but I'll leave the above there just in case if it was overlooked.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-04 10:48:32
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So with Halachuinic Sword is this going to be better to main hand and just use Req WS VS using Almace?
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-05-04 10:53:03
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
I like the Delve/non-Delve idea.
Concur
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-05-04 15:23:07
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Odin.Arkista said: »
So with Halachuinic Sword is this going to be better to main hand and just use Req WS VS using Almace?
Yeah.
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By Moozie 2013-05-04 21:12:21
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so my LS just got out of delve, fighting the NM gnat.

I am extremely embarrassed to say that my acc was 19% or so.

I was subbing thf, and using SA/benthic typhoon for about 900 average, and we timed out at 3%. Besides getting cannonball, what else can I do to get better?

I will probably be blm in future visits, but if I get to come blu, what kind of suggestions can you give me to make me better.

I am a career mage, only really leveling thf, nin and other melee jobs for solo or farming, so I am in dire need of education.

Thanks.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-04 22:24:58
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Was wondering about this set up
ItemSet 299514
Not really all that hard to get the new delve gear just going to take some grinding. Don't know why the str sword is in main hand.
I think path A would be good for these but I guess would depend.
Edit take that belt out and use something else.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-05-04 23:17:32
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Moozie said: »
so my LS just got out of delve, fighting the NM gnat.

I am extremely embarrassed to say that my acc was 19% or so.

I was subbing thf, and using SA/benthic typhoon for about 900 average, and we timed out at 3%. Besides getting cannonball, what else can I do to get better?

I will probably be blm in future visits, but if I get to come blu, what kind of suggestions can you give me to make me better.

I am a career mage, only really leveling thf, nin and other melee jobs for solo or farming, so I am in dire need of education.

Thanks.
Should probably note that 20% accuracy is the accuracy floor, since 19% is within the variation of that, your accuracy was floored ^^. So a ***ton of acc gear, use sole sushi and if you have a brd/cor get accuracy songs/roll.

Odin.Arkista said: »
Was wondering about this set up
ItemSet 299514
Not really all that hard to get the new delve gear just going to take some grinding. Don't know why the str sword is in main hand.
I think path A would be good for these but I guess would depend.
Edit take that belt out and use something else.

You have 32% haste in that set. I've not looked at much of the new gear so I can't say exactly what I would do but you could drop that hat and use Thurandaut Chapeau for the 5% DW.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-04 23:27:21
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Odin.Arkista said: »
Was wondering about this set up
ItemSet 299514
Not really all that hard to get the new delve gear just going to take some grinding. Don't know why the str sword is in main hand.
I think path A would be good for these but I guess would depend.
Edit take that belt out and use something else.

You have 32% haste in that set. I've not looked at much of the new gear so I can't say exactly what I would do but you could drop that hat and use Thurandaut Chapeau for the 5% DW.[/quote]

Ya its why I said take out the belt it wont let me repost a new item set with a different belt on the edit for some reason.
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By Valefor.Lisamarie 2013-05-04 23:39:59
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Can probably take out the feet for Thuamas (DA+3), Waist for Twilight (DA+2) and still maintain capped haste with that other gear.
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-04 23:50:01
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You could use Thuamas Nails but the new delve gear gets augments.
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By Ragnarok.Tarusofo 2013-05-05 01:31:57
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Just an update, going to take me a while to do set updates to include the new delve gear. It's a pretty monumental task as there's a ton of upgrades. I'm thinking about bumping top tier sets down to high end and remaking top tier sets completely, or just adding a new set for each category called "Delve" to leave non-delve sets there and making it easier on myself.
I can't speak for everyone else but I'd love the "Delve/Non-Delve" idea as well. I'm not in an HNM LS nor I have time to be in one at this moment in life, so it's probably out of reach for me.

Thanks for updating the ever-so-useful guide. (:
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By Moozie 2013-05-05 07:25:10
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Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »
Moozie said: »
so my LS just got out of delve, fighting the NM gnat.

I am extremely embarrassed to say that my acc was 19% or so.

I was subbing thf, and using SA/benthic typhoon for about 900 average, and we timed out at 3%. Besides getting cannonball, what else can I do to get better?

I will probably be blm in future visits, but if I get to come blu, what kind of suggestions can you give me to make me better.

I am a career mage, only really leveling thf, nin and other melee jobs for solo or farming, so I am in dire need of education.

Thanks.
Should probably note that 20% accuracy is the accuracy floor, since 19% is within the variation of that, your accuracy was floored ^^. So a ***ton of acc gear, use sole sushi and if you have a brd/cor get accuracy songs/roll.


I DID have a bard. we had double acc songs. I didn't
really know we were going to fight the gnat, so I was unprepared with food, so that problem can be solved. I can also get an additional 42 accuracy (Thur hat, mantis eye, 12 acc back and life belt) so that will help, I hope.

Top acc score from the alliance 62% I think, with most people sitting in the 40-50% range.

the main problem besides my whiff fest, which included almost every spell, AS, delta thrust, spells that I have no problem hitting with missed a lot, is that the gnat likes to take tp and virus a lot, as well as slowga all the time so we couldn't skillchain or even weapon skill.

I had to leave, so they switched jobs around and got a blm, so I hope the LS won after they got rid of the weak link (me). I feel like I failed everyone. we lost by 3%, and I was basically a non factor. I have decent gear, by no means the best, and I am striving to always improve.

Thanks again.
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By Ragnarok.Bepe 2013-05-05 18:30:16
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With the two new delve swords, I'm guessing that Requiescat is the way to go now over cdc, more specifically the one off the delve boss?
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-05 18:32:06
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Yep, Requiescat.

It's not as easy to gear as CdC but a good set can put out great numbers even without the new swords.
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By Ragnarok.Bepe 2013-05-05 18:37:23
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Well crap, I was excited because I had no incentive to get the morrigan body +1 because of bokwus robe, but now its tempting....
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By Ragnarok.Bepe 2013-05-05 18:45:30
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Does anyone know the augments on the manibozo pants? If I'm not mistaken the augments will decide whether or not they can beat the morrigan slops +1 right? Or does the attack on the pants already trump them? Trying the plan which gear I want to augment and how far I want to augment each piece because screw those final stages on some the pieces XD. I'll probably take the Bokwus robe to 15 because I'm a main mage guy but god that gets pricey fast.
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By amadis 2013-05-06 09:05:53
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has anyone found out the dual wield % of the new earrings yet? im guessing if its 10% it will beat suppa/brutal but if 7~8% brutal and suppa will still win. Also the double attack +7 earrings, will they beat moonshade/brutal for CdC? all we gain from moonshade is 2.5% crit rate, no additional ftp or anything right?
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By Odin.Creaucent 2013-05-06 09:20:40
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I cant see the dualwield earrings beating DA+5 DW+5 acc/att+5.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-05-06 09:20:55
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Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Yep, Requiescat.

It's not as easy to gear as CdC but a good set can put out great numbers even without the new swords.


Ugh finding mnd gear with attack and str on it on light armor oh joy.
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By Carbuncle.Shokox 2013-05-07 04:17:29
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kenshynofshiva said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Yep, Requiescat.

It's not as easy to gear as CdC but a good set can put out great numbers even without the new swords.


Ugh finding mnd gear with attack and str on it on light armor oh joy.

Morrigan's +1.
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By kenshynofshiva 2013-05-07 09:45:39
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Carbuncle.Shokox said: »
kenshynofshiva said: »
Asura.Lokimaru said: »
Yep, Requiescat.

It's not as easy to gear as CdC but a good set can put out great numbers even without the new swords.


Ugh finding mnd gear with attack and str on it on light armor oh joy.

Morrigan's +1.

Back to my salvage nightmares >.> I hate that place.....
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By Gimp 2013-05-07 11:28:30
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Ceizak Fracture

With sole sushi, boost dex (was kept up very well)

90 Almace/Bihkah Sword

Hitting about 61.4% Accuracy 23% Crit Rate 1.1(Maybe 1.3 i forget) CdC average

CA or Efflux(not both.) on Quad netted me about 1.1 Average of 35 Casts and 4 Failures

CA or Efflux(not both) on Amorphic had about 884 Average out of 8 casts

I didn't use heavy strike (wasn't sure of how reliable it'd be I'll try another time) since I didn't want to cut into my tp phase too much and lose out on damage.

My tp to ws to spell ratio is almost dead even... Tp being almost identical to spell damage with ws being slightly less than the two.

Tp 40000 Ws 30900 Spell 40000 (estimates since I deleted the parse)

out of 2 runs

I'll swap out amorphic for warm-up my next run and see how it does. Warm-up has issues of being a bit costly but I'm not really using the mp for anything else except quad and occult
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-09 09:11:43
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So I got the new sword few days ago and love it only sad that I don't have CDC anymore so was wondering would the Mondaha Cudgel be better to main hand and have Halachuinic in the offhand and use Realmrazor or switch them around and keep using Requiescat?
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-05-09 09:22:36
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Also what spells can I use to Self Skillchain with Realmrazor?
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By Asura.Peacewalker 2013-05-09 09:26:31
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Sub-zero Smash or Ram Charge
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