The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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 Valefor.Prothescar
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 00:16:24
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I usually drop Amorphic Spikes and Occultation for Triumphant Roar and Frightful Roar respectively unless I feel I really need the extra defensive benefit of Occultation.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-03-05 00:24:24
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Alright, really appreciate the tips. Now I just need to get my butt in gear for NNI before Seekers comes out and I never get to go again.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-03-05 01:02:24
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Sylph.Oraen said: »
Alright, really appreciate the tips. Now I just need to get my butt in gear for NNI before Seekers comes out and I never get to go again.
While I highly recommend doing it now cause it's ridiculously easy compared to when I first did it, it won't be impossible after the update either.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-03-05 01:07:27
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Yeah, I know it won't be an enormously difficult event, I just meant more that people will be going crazy over SoA content for a while before settling down to do older stuff again.
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By Gimp 2013-03-05 01:19:06
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depends on what event you're doing for swapping spells for what for vw I set dex spells(After traits of course) and frightful roar, t.roar would be irrelevant since you have stalwarts and it lasts a pretty good time.

t.roar is definitely handy though when you dont have the drink though
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By Moozie 2013-03-05 08:47:15
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Excellent new layout Proth, thank you for the break down of teirs for tp and stuff.

Very helpful for those of us without a group for some events (NNI, burrows, salvage) to have some alternatives.

Only one small note, is there anyway you can re-edit the abilities section, you have auto-refresh jammed with conserve MP, and I almost always miss it when reading.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 13:01:51
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fixed
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By Phoenix.Ninjie 2013-03-05 13:21:16
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Might want to think about adding a magic accuracy set.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 13:47:36
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few more adjustments

Spell list
-Fixed Heavy Strike's accuracy penalty
-Fixed metallic body's formula
-Fixed diamondhide's formula
-Fixed Orcish Counterstance's damage increase
-Fixed Saline Coat's degradation stages
-Fixed Reactor Cool's durations
-Fixed Auroral Drape's duration
-Fixed Gates of Hades' Burn potency
-Fixed Maelstrom's dINT
-Fixed Vanity Dive's attack bonus
-Fixed Bilgestorm's Accuracy Down duration
-Fixed Cold Wave's Frost potency

Equipment
-Added additional swap pieces to Requiescat set
-Added additional swap pieces for full evasion set
-Added additional swap pieces for idle set
-Amended some equip set augment sections to remove gear that's no longer there
-Added links to Low End and Mid Range Requiescat sets
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By Thorbean 2013-03-05 14:34:15
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Dumakulem's Ring could maybe make an appearance in an evasion/hybrid evasion set. I also use it for TPing as I don't have eponas yet.
(Shaves 1 hit off for me which can make up for a missed hit in TP phase and the eva/attack is nice)

Great guide btw.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-03-05 15:09:41
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In this set, is that hat always better than Oce+1?
(I have both, using that exact set atm)
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 15:30:23
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only when not benefiting from the DEX on oce
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-03-05 15:31:22
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BLU has enough DEX to cap dDex vs rather hard enemies though, no? (With Oce, I mean)
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2013-03-05 15:32:12
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
few more adjustments

Spell list
-Fixed Heavy Strike's accuracy penalty
-Fixed metallic body's formula
-Fixed diamondhide's formula
-Fixed Orcish Counterstance's damage increase
-Fixed Saline Coat's degradation stages
-Fixed Reactor Cool's durations
-Fixed Auroral Drape's duration
-Fixed Gates of Hades' Burn potency
-Fixed Maelstrom's dINT
-Fixed Vanity Dive's attack bonus
-Fixed Bilgestorm's Accuracy Down duration
-Fixed Cold Wave's Frost potency

Equipment
-Added additional swap pieces to Requiescat set
-Added additional swap pieces for full evasion set
-Added additional swap pieces for idle set
-Amended some equip set augment sections to remove gear that's no longer there
-Added links to Low End and Mid Range Requiescat sets

Your notes are more comprehensive and more substantial than the average SE patch notes.
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-03-05 15:34:04
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BLU can cap dex with Oce but When you say "Hard Enemies" what exactly do you refer to?
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By Shiva.Shinneh 2013-03-05 15:36:32
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Fantastic guide Proth! Has been so useful ever since it was posted :D Could there be a section added for Voidwatch Atmacite recommendations? If it's not too much to ask :(
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-03-05 15:40:24
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Cerberus.Conagh said: »
BLU can cap dex with Oce but When you say "Hard Enemies" what exactly do you refer to?

Rather hard I guess I mean above DC Dyna mobs?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 15:48:18
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Impossible to say for a blanket answer, however the chances of ocelomeh+1 head significantly affecting crit rate are much higher than most other pieces in a higher end TP set due to more compromises in dropping DEX for other stats as well as some or most of that 13DEX likely falling into the final bracket(s) of dDEX.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2013-03-05 15:49:30
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Impossible to say for a blanket answer, however the chances of ocelomeh+1 head significantly affecting crit rate are much higher than most other pieces in a higher end TP set due to more compromises in dropping DEX for other stats as well as some or most of that 13DEX likely falling into the final bracket(s) of dDEX.

Yeah I guess.
I'll just make a separate set with that and use when I'm pretty sure the DEX is significant.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-03-05 16:21:39
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Using blu/war all out DD spells on DC dyna mobs (taru, rcb, marches), I have this as best berserk up CDC:


(without ftp from athos)

For berserk down: I get the set on your OP but have rancor back+moepapa coming ahead of rancor neck+atheling.

Out of curiosity what spell set do you use for comparisons on the spreadsheet?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 16:26:57
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Outside of the few inconsistencies my sets are optimized for inventory management as well as effectiveness. Ergo, rancor back and moepapa medal are not included in any CDC sets. I'll add them to swap lists and leave it to the user's discretion as to whether its worth the inventory space to them or not. I don't use montenten's sheet, rather my own, which has the spells built-in and thus it autocalculates the stat bonuses after inputting a spell set. Spell set used depends on the event I'm using the spreadsheet for.
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By Gimp 2013-03-05 16:29:33
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suggestion: put apaisante(+1) on the sword section and remove killer/erad kiliji; it's far easier to get apai than killer and stronger than the latter
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By gygas 2013-03-05 19:51:40
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For CDC, is Rancor Collar + Atheling Mantle decidedly better than Nefarious Collar + Rancorous Mantle? Higher crit. rate on the latter.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-03-05 20:15:02
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yes
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By duos 2013-03-06 04:05:17
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Cheers for the low-med Tier gearsets that definitely a big plus.
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By Phoenix.Belgaer 2013-03-06 16:59:57
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Yeah, very helpful. ^^/

Though I do have one little nit pick. In your High End TP set, wouldn't Thaumus legs pull ahead because of the STR from the set bonus?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-03-06 20:35:20
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Quite overlooked, but perhaps Spoila/Opima trews could be added to the low and or mid set for Requiescat sets~ MND +8 for NQ, MND +9 for HQ

I only just realised they existed 60 seconds ago.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-03-06 20:53:22
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I use Magavan pants since they multitask as my healing pants on BLU too.

And apparently some other stuff as well.
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-03-06 20:56:37
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Aparently I've been using thaumas lol


>.>;
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By Valefor.Sapphire 2013-03-07 13:06:53
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Does blu skill give physical spell accuracy at all? If so at what ratio?

e.g. Magus Body+1 versus Mirage Jubbah +2 if you want heavy strike to whiff less?

I've been trying to figure out an ideal HeavyStrike gearset (non NNI) that wont whiff too much.
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